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Do Shadowers outdamage BM?

Hello Basil,
Please don't get me wrong, I have no intention to "join" the bandwagon (I believe it's slowly dying and converting to DB) of shadowers but there's a slight argument i've been reading as I've been reading basil forums.
Some basilers claim that shadowers will actually out damage a BM on a boss?
I find that hardly to believe since a BM is less mobile, no mobbing, less hp, less avoidability, etc etc; therefore, a BM should at least out-dps a shadower for 1v1 Solo bosses.
Just trying to clean up any misconceptions here..
Yes, obvious is obvious, funding > less funding. Let's give an approximation. Around 5bil for both.

Edit: This thread is now locked for obvious reasons. I'm not asking for flames, nor any "WHICH CLAZZ IS BET0RZ" thread. I got the information I wanted.
ME is a significant part of a shadower's damage, and if not spamming (rather, the lack of in 1 v1 scenario) a shadower's damage will be more hindered than a BM given a 1v1 scenario along with approximate 5bil funding, and near same level. Thanks.

February 14, 2011

9 Comments • Newest first

mcjjashik

[quote=Sengarasu]Seriously? I dont like comparison threads because they can seriously go to hell >.> As for shads over bms, or bms over shad. In all actionality, its easier to achieve higher dpm on the shad ,because i make shad equips, and sell them in the fm in my mushie. Therefor, easier to make a shad. End of story.[/quote]
Clearly you haven't read anything I wrote regarding this thread. It's not a "which class is xxxx," it's a thread about what does what in what scenario, like some other kind basilers have telling me about the differences between ME spamming and not. This scenario is 1v1 damage on solo. Shadowers have clear advantage over mobs, etc. Also, your reasoning for "I make shad equips and sell them in the fm in my mushie" has nothing to do with the thread, anyone can do the same with their own maker skill.

OT: I'll be closing this thread in 5 mins to avoid "flames" like this basiler. Thanks everyone for the sincere clarification on what does what. I didn't know ME had such a [b]huge[/b] effect on dps/dpm.

Edit: As I said, I'm not comparing, nor am I complaining about "OMG BUFFZ BMZ PL0X CUZ WE D0NT D0 DAMAGEEEH0REZZZ"
Just asking a simple question with what I thought the proper assumption of 1v1. That is all.

Reply February 14, 2011 - edited
DarkDreamz

Depends if they have ME, without it they're useless, but as soon as they have enough mesos on the ground, and they start using ME, nothing can compare.

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Sengarasu

Seriously? I dont like comparison threads because they can seriously go to hell >.> As for shads over bms, or bms over shad. In all actionality, its easier to achieve higher dpm on the shad ,because i make shad equips, and sell them in the fm in my mushie. Therefor, easier to make a shad. End of story.

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Fearless

I don't care what anybody says. Shads are weak.

./CFSC

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MangosOnTheWeb

Shadowers have the highest DPM with Meso Explosion, and one of the lowest without.

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jmastapwn

DoT = Damage over time

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l0lumad

i think u mean BoT F1 but if not what's dot?
And shoudn't Bstep>Assassinate>ME work faster then hurricane?

Reply February 14, 2011 - edited
KaRnAgE926

according to DPS chart with ME or ME + DoT vs Hurricane then YES Shads > BM,

but

if it was BS + SB + DoT or BS + SB vs Hurricane then NO BM > Shads.

Reply February 14, 2011 - edited
rareboy112

shadower for sure is better.

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