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How much CSSs and Innos would I need to scroll entire cra?

With level 100 dilli+guild skill, scrolling claw with 15%'s and gear 30%, how much inno / css do you think I will need?
I know it's about luck and technically I might not even need one, but I am looking for an estimation (not sure if such a word exists).

October 1, 2015

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NewgodIydit

[quote=cxter]would also depend on your diligence and guild skill. That's literally like asking how many cubes does it take to get to legendary from unique...[/quote]

I did write dilligence and guild skill -.-

Reply October 1, 2015
mvietp09

More math for you...

Your chances of passing every slot, one run, with no fails assuming 39% success per scroll is .39^(10) = .0000814 x 100 = .00814%. But regarding Nexon's RNG I assume it'll either be all fails or all successes. If it's all fails, I do t even recommend clean skating, the RNG gods will have cursed you for that day. Just a personal opinion though.

Reply October 1, 2015
MrSinDeath19

[quote=epikkhighh]@mrsindeath19: okay if you want me to brag more i passed 22/24 70% spell traces on my archer cra items[/quote]

I scrolled a mules entire empress set only missing one of them. 70% at max are like a sure thing.

Reply October 1, 2015
epikkhighh

@mrsindeath19: okay if you want me to brag more i passed 22/24 70% spell traces on my archer cra items

Reply October 1, 2015
MrSinDeath19

[quote=epikkhighh]i did 70% and passed 7/7 with lv 9x diligence[/quote]

That's easy.
OT: Each 15% = 40% chance at maximum (really 39 but I'm lazy and wanted to make rounding easier)
7 + 11 + 7 + 8 slots = 33 total slots (41 after hammer)
1) Scroll the first 3 slots without failing x 4 = ~60 inno passes = 120 innos
2) 21 slots remaining
3) Assuming only 1/2 50% hammers pass, 40 CSS to get the next slot back
4) 29 slots available
5) First round, 12 pass, 17 slots fail = 170 CSS
6) Second round 7 pass, 10 fail = 100 CSS
7) Third round 4 pass, 6 fail = 60 CSS
8) Fourth round 2 pass, 4 fail = 40 CSS
9) 5th round 2 pass 2 fail = 20 CSS
10) 6th round, 1 passes 1 fail = 10 CSS
11) 7th round, fail = 10 CSS
12) 8th round = Pass the final slot.

Total: 450 CSS and a max of 120 inno

Or faster approx from step 4: 29 slots, 2.5 scrolls per pass, so 15 CSS per pass * 29 = 435 + 40 from hammer = ~475CSS

(This is just a quick version and does rounding each round based on odds. I probably left some stuff out, and it's up to you if you want to start with inno's. But usually you wont need that many usually yoloing will end up being less (Maybe 40 innos total) but thats just for probability sake, assuming you need >100% to be considered a success)

Reply October 1, 2015 - edited
epikkhighh

i did 70% and passed 7/7 with lv 9x diligence

Reply October 1, 2015 - edited
MasuBhat

Assuming 15% --> 15+10+10+4 = 40% (round up)
Theoretically speaking, if you succeed 4/10 slots then you should use CSS rather than inno.
But then again luck is a huge factor and cssing is an major pain in the arse so i would suggest aiming for more than that (5-6) passes for every 10 slots. If not innocence it.
10 slots. Would take;
40% x 10 = 4
Clean slating 6 slots back = 60 css
40% x 6 = 2.4
Clean slating 3.6 slots back =36 css
40% x 3.6 = 1.44
clean slating 2.16 slots back = 21.6 css
40% x 2.16 = 0.864
clean slating 1.296 slots back = 12.96 css
40% x 1.296 =0.5184
clean slating back 0.7776 slots back = 7.77css.....

I am too lazy to continue by thats highly theoretical (if i am not wrong). But as you can see you would need well over 150 css to perfect 10 slots. But then again you might end up not ending a single CSS. Good luck.

Reply October 1, 2015 - edited
Cxter

[quote=newgodiydit]Mhm ok, so, I need many css's, does anyone know the math of when you should use innos vs when to use css's?[/quote]
would also depend on your diligence and guild skill. That's literally like asking how many cubes does it take to get to legendary from unique...

Reply October 1, 2015 - edited
NewgodIydit

Mhm ok, so, I need many css's, does anyone know the math of when you should use innos vs when to use css's?

Reply October 1, 2015 - edited
FalseMirror

yes estimation is a word
and for the amount needed: a lot

Reply October 1, 2015 - edited
Crizit

Well idk if I'm doing this right..
You need 3.4 scrolls per successful scroll.
Clean slate works at 10% chance so take it as 10 per slots.
You would need around 250 CSS, I think. Idk about inno.

Edit: Whoops. I thought we're talking about an 10 slot weapon. Didn't read the last 3 words.

Reply October 1, 2015 - edited