If I'm not mistaken, Wild hunter comes off a little better (especially with the stance as people said). But if you like Bowmasters make one, eventually there will be another revamp, and theyll have a turn in the sun for a while, thats generally how it goes.
those numbers by joetang are calculated with %'s. wh's have higher att weapons (xbow) and therefore have a slightly higher range in theory, making them abit more stronger actually. btw can any1 tell me whats up with bad survivability for wh, i have one unwashed and i got enough hp to survive any boss with some hp boost potions, will it get lowered?
@Kazzooey: lol you do realize i was kidding around anyways right? I know shads arent good bossers,But they arent as bad as you may think. Of course a Wild hunter should beat a shadower at bossing, except maybe on HT and at Zak arms, simmply because shad can hit more spots more effectively. Bossing a DB should beat a Shad on every boss, except for HT. Anyways, i was just havin a little fun, I dont see why you're so butt hurt about it. Now i cant be sure, because i havent looked at all the pally skills, but 100x better survivability may be a LITTLE over exaggeration. Shield mastery and meso gaurd prove to be very helpful, along with Vampire(if, like me you're a UA) for pot locks. Obviously its noticably less defense on a shad with little funding, but max defense isnt so hard to come by on a shadower either.
So worried about PDR? Get Leafre Silent Crusade set, thats 30% off right there, then try to get some %Pdr on your weapon. Grats, now you just solved that problem. Or you could just have a paladin come in with Threaten.
@daringwaffle No offense sir, but Shads suck at bossing. Sure high survivability, but if you want survivability, paladin is 100x better. I've had a shad once, their damage sucks even with Meso boom. WH beat out shads from what I've seen. And Db tells shads to sit down and shut up. Maaaaybe you should go back to your own forum if you don't have anything to contribute that actually helps this thread out.
according to the calculations previously listed, MM beats BM and WH at 70% pdr anyways, SO.... better mobber, better bosser, either way just quit your WH cuz they just aint so great. Shad wins
archers in general: bossing-wise: wild hunter, bowmaster, mercedes, marksman Note: this is all with the same funding and post union Mobbing wise: Marksman, mercedes, bowmaster and wild hunter Fun wise: that's your opinion
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If I'm not mistaken, Wild hunter comes off a little better (especially with the stance as people said). But if you like Bowmasters make one, eventually there will be another revamp, and theyll have a turn in the sun for a while, thats generally how it goes.
those numbers by joetang are calculated with %'s.
wh's have higher att weapons (xbow) and therefore have a slightly higher range in theory, making them abit more stronger actually.
btw can any1 tell me whats up with bad survivability for wh, i have one unwashed and i got enough hp to survive any boss with some hp boost potions, will it get lowered?
@Kazzooey: lol you do realize i was kidding around anyways right? I know shads arent good bossers,But they arent as bad as you may think. Of course a Wild hunter should beat a shadower at bossing, except maybe on HT and at Zak arms, simmply because shad can hit more spots more effectively.
Bossing a DB should beat a Shad on every boss, except for HT.
Anyways, i was just havin a little fun, I dont see why you're so butt hurt about it.
Now i cant be sure, because i havent looked at all the pally skills, but 100x better survivability may be a LITTLE over exaggeration.
Shield mastery and meso gaurd prove to be very helpful, along with Vampire(if, like me you're a UA) for pot locks. Obviously its noticably less defense on a shad with little funding, but max defense isnt so hard to come by on a shadower either.
wh beats BM 1v1 but both don't survive well lol
So worried about PDR? Get Leafre Silent Crusade set, thats 30% off right there, then try to get some %Pdr on your weapon. Grats, now you just solved that problem. Or you could just have a paladin come in with Threaten.
@daringwaffle No offense sir, but Shads suck at bossing. Sure high survivability, but if you want survivability, paladin is 100x better. I've had a shad once, their damage sucks even with Meso boom. WH beat out shads from what I've seen. And Db tells shads to sit down and shut up. Maaaaybe you should go back to your own forum if you don't have anything to contribute that actually helps this thread out.
@lolnubb: lolwhut
shad came before DBs, and plus look at the new skills, theyre still nothing like DBs
you sir, are an ignoramous
@ZoomHeadshot: lmao, the truth hurts doesnt it? im just havin a little fun, dont take it so personally. Theres no need for that, dude.
You know what are better questions?
Who the hell is Joe Tang? and how does it make him an authority in calculations of DPM for determining which archer is better?
[quote=Holitrix]http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=50733
Everything you need to know is in there. Have fun quitting your WH ^^[/quote]
Why would anyone quit their WH over it being 4th on the DPM list? lol....
Their actually really fun, I actually liked it better then me BM.
according to the calculations previously listed, MM beats BM and WH at 70% pdr anyways, SO.... better mobber, better bosser, either way just quit your WH cuz they just aint so great.
Shad wins
[quote=Holitrix]Actually you can all stop arguing.
Joe Tang calculated.
Mercedes have best 1v1, Corsairs second, BM third, WH fourth.
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Source for sair calculations? Did it take into account the weapon multiplier and base att difference between guns and archer weapons?
In terms of WH vs BM, it's generally agreed that WHs will be better.
but it's rather situational, and either way I believe it's pretty close
@gaboom, oh yea i forgot about the boss damage, but percent damage wise.. wild hunters
archers in general: bossing-wise: wild hunter, bowmaster, mercedes, marksman Note: this is all with the same funding and post union
Mobbing wise: Marksman, mercedes, bowmaster and wild hunter
Fun wise: that's your opinion
im just considering 1vs1
WH has better damage 1v1(I didn't check mobbing)
BM still has better survivability.
Next time, consider skill besides just the main attacks... /sigh