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Why am i not getting the full effects?

of the leafre set (30%pdr)
[url=http://oi61.tinypic.com/m6dqf.jpg]without set[/url]
[url=http://oi61.tinypic.com/207q5j9.jpg]with set[/url]
only a 10% pdr difference when its supposed to be 30%?

August 21, 2014

10 Comments • Newest first

Elufu

[url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2706812]Ignoring Defense 101[/url]

Reply August 22, 2014
Omniscient1

[quote=FiendOverlord]I hate the newest Stat window because it doesn't display how much ATT you have like the one before (the one KMS currently has), and instead it shows how much Ignore DEF % you have which doesn't even calculate right. If they were to do it right, they should at least start from 100% Enemy Defense and multiply accordingly.[/quote]

It's already been explained that pdr is multiplicative now. So it's displayed correctly. When they had the old stat screen showing it additive that's what confused everyone.

Reply August 22, 2014
ox0Shad0w0xo

@Phoremer Just in case the "it's not additive anymore, it's multiplicative" statement doesn't explain it enough, let me give you an example.

Let's say you're attacking a monster with 80% damage reduction. With the old system, having 3 lines of 30% pdr would give you a total of 90%, bringing the monster down to 8% damage reduction.

But now with the new system, having 3 lines of 30% pdr on the same monster would take each source of pdr separately. Making the number go 80% > 56% > 39.2% > 27.44%. So that means those 3 lines of 30% when calculated separately actually only lowered the total damage reduction by about 65.6% rather than the 90% reduction you would get if you added them together before applying them.

Reply August 22, 2014
itoldyounoob

It's actually correct on display now. As a few people have stated it's multiplicative, which would not directly give u another 30% into ur PDR window.

Reply August 22, 2014
FiendOverlord

I hate the newest Stat window because it doesn't display how much ATT you have like the one before (the one KMS currently has), and instead it shows how much Ignore DEF % you have which doesn't even calculate right. If they were to do it right, they should at least start from 100% Enemy Defense and multiply accordingly.

Reply August 22, 2014
Green4EVER

[quote=KyleHeII007]Go to "known bugs/errors" on website clearly states leafre codex does not ad 30%pdr and even if it was additive its ++++++30% not x30%[/quote]

That known bug is invalid, it does work.
And + or x has nothing to do with how it actually works. It is multiplicative.

Reply August 21, 2014 - edited
Revolutionist

Ignore PDR became multiplicative in 1.37, but the stat window kept incorrectly displaying an additive total until it was fixed in 1.48.

1 - ((1 - 0.63) * (1 - 0.3)) = 74.1% multiplicative Ignore PDR.

Reply August 21, 2014 - edited
KyleHeII007

Go to "known bugs/errors" on website clearly states leafre codex does not ad 30%pdr and even if it was additive its ++++++30% not x30%

Reply August 21, 2014 - edited
OMGpineapples

I tink you will get many responses saying that "PDR is multiplicative now," but caca isn't entirely sure hehe.

Reply August 21, 2014 - edited