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Why is so hard for us Heroes

So I've been trying to fund my Hero for a couple months now. I've come up with a great deal of equipment. Note, this is not a showoff thread. I am currently level 159. So far I have 54% Str in total and about 243 total weapon attack. My weapon is a 178att VIP 1h Axe. Yet, my range is only at around 15k-22k. I did some math and realized that if I want a 30k range I would need about 60% more Str, which is roughly 10-12bil. Are you guys having as much trouble as I am reaching a high range?

Edit:My title is missing a word
Why is it so hard for us Heroes?

November 14, 2011

9 Comments • Newest first

Smillymage1

i have a 22k range with rage and im only 54% str with 202ish total attack w/ afa +2%att

Reply November 15, 2011
Cthulhusama

[quote=User232]I'm pretty sure that you don't need an additional 60% str to increase your range by 8k...
i have ~229 atk by memory (177 polearm, 5+5+5+3 from rings, 3 from face accessory, 9 from cape, 17 from glove, 5 from belt), and I have
i think 111% str with level 21 MW.
I'm level 162 and my range goes to ~47k though
or maybe it's because i'm a drk[/quote]

Well Polearms and Spears have a 1.5 multiplier (or 1.49? I forget but it's close to that) and 1H swords have a 1.2 multiplier. If you kept all your equips the same except replaced your PA with a 177 atk 1H sword your range would drop to about 37.6k range. So yeah the higher multiplier is a pretty big deal when it comes to range.

Reply November 15, 2011
BrazenBlitz

It goes in phases.

I'd do this.
Perfect weapon
Start on 6% gear.
Upgrade glove to a 21/15% smg (roughly 3bil in nido)
Move onto 9% gear.
Complete your attack gear.
Move onto 12-15% str.

It goes in phases tbh. o.o

Initially %str seems to be more effective as far as dmg is concerned but after you get a moderately high %str, it seems that upgrading your attack gear is a more viable aspect in terms of upgrade to damage.

Reply November 15, 2011
Phuze1

[quote=stez5]I remembered when I had 25k range.
Just get over 300atk and work %str from there.
I think I have 350 (380 with Afa) clean atk. And I'm still using czak/ VL glove.
Now I need to work %str.
Note: %atk can increase your range by quite a bit.[/quote]
That's what confuses me. Balancing weapon attack and Str%. I always thought it's better to have more Str% than weapon attack.
Starting from when you had a 25k range, what were your first initial upgrades?

Reply November 15, 2011
Phuze1

[quote=setget]well as the guy 2 above stated, low damage multipler mean you get less for your mesos. if you were a sin you would get the highest i believe. so 1 att isnt that much on a hero compared to a sin[/quote]
This is what I was thinking too, remembering back when I had my NL.

Reply November 14, 2011
setget

well as the guy 2 above stated, low damage multipler mean you get less for your mesos. if you were a sin you would get the highest i believe. so 1 att isnt that much on a hero compared to a sin

Reply November 14, 2011
Cthulhusama

As a 1H axe user you only have a 1.2 multiplier which does mean that each additional attack and %stat is less effective than a class with a higher multiplier. If you are having trouble with a 1.2 multiplier go try making a mage and have fun with a 1.0 multiplier. Much harder.

Reply November 14, 2011
VulcanWalker

I have 12% str with 161 total w.att, and my range is only ~9k ish. I'm having quite a bit of trouble improving my range compared to other Heroes I see at LHC, being relatively poor.

Reply November 14, 2011 - edited
SombraManx

so what? you have a lot of %dmg increase.. + PDR.. + heavy dmg skills.. + finishers.. + debuffs.. + defence..

range is not everything in the game you know?

Reply November 14, 2011 - edited