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Hard magnus solo

Maybe some mechanics heavy pally can give me some insight here. I've reached a point where I can 'solo' magnus. Sorta. I can get him down to 30% in 10 minutes or so with 1-2 deaths. The problem I have is when his shield tightens one final time, and the edge of the blue aura thing is within the range of his spinning attack (which has the annoying ass knock back). Now I can deal with this, what I can't deal with is him rushing 7x in a row. I eithe rush into him or get knocked around into bombs. I recently saw a video (EMS) of a pally that didn't get pushed around. Is there a trick? Or is EMS just different? Furthermore, if there's nothing I can do about it in gms, what do you suggest I do to 1. Minimize casualties when hard magnus starts going track star on me and 2. Maximize the damage output when he is (and isn't) bound. Just to clarify, These are questions for hard magnus in his last stage of high aggro.

I should note it's ease cakes with a kanna, Im trying to run it without a kanna mule. With echo and pots I'm at like 1.95-2m. About 27m without flowes, like 32-35 with flowers

May 1, 2014

15 Comments • Newest first

Razzi

I couldn't imagine the past months without a buff gem lol. As for buffing I find SI and booster a necessity to maintain control over the missiles that occasionally come down. I'm doing about 26m to magnus when threatened. As for character control LOl I am total ass. I always get hit by cvel when he comes up. I can't gauge the distance I have to be away from his neck for crap

Reply May 5, 2014
Redadin

How much per line do you hit:
@MrEmiel
@Razzi

I'm curious as to how far or close I am atm.

Also, pretty much the tips you get here will be useless. I've stated already that you know what you're doing, the tactics are fine you just have to get to a point where avoiding his attacks and balls seems eerily easy. It's almost like things have slowed down in your mind. I suggest solo attempting CVel for character control practice. And I don't mean pally practice, try imagining that you WILL die in one hit. Compared to the death sender that CVel is, you'll find HMag to be a puppy.

Reply May 4, 2014 - edited
MrEmiel

after failing twice this week, I managed to solo hard magnus today following the tips listed in this thread thanks guys
buff gem really helps!

Reply May 4, 2014 - edited
Rorik92

[quote=Razzi]You guys make binding sound so simple. There's the issue of reps awning and buffing in your corner while hoping no bombs gib you. Then there's luring him away from the gas to efficiently bind him while hoping you don't get gibber by more attacks. Even then there's charging up and recharging. You pretty much eat all of yor bind time doing this. So I've tried to yolo charge without bind, to maximize blast time with bind. I guess as you guys have stated, more damage would probably make the task a lot easier.[/quote]

Honestly, buy an auto buff gem and put ele charge in it. It's awkward when it buffs because it makes it so you can't fj that second, but its better than losing 3-4 seconds where you're stuck standing still. And the only real buffs you should need is ele charge, co, and booster.

Reply May 4, 2014 - edited
Razzi

You guys make binding sound so simple. There's the issue of reps awning and buffing in your corner while hoping no bombs gib you. Then there's luring him away from the gas to efficiently bind him while hoping you don't get gibber by more attacks. Even then there's charging up and recharging. You pretty much eat all of yor bind time doing this. So I've tried to yolo charge without bind, to maximize blast time with bind. I guess as you guys have stated, more damage would probably make the task a lot easier.

Reply May 4, 2014 - edited
Bernie

Pretty much practice and maybe get a little more range would help I do around 4xmil per line dont rele have a problem cause of the lifes (using sacri and bind together) and respawn to use bind whenever I can. Also after that 50% hp mark save your lifes and just respawn with bind and sacro.Btw if you have a problem wirh rush don't get that far away from him otherwise he'll rush you like crazy. One more thing after that 50 % hp mark just bind him cause its gonna be crazy to stay and dodge all those orbs <3 hope I helped.

Reply May 2, 2014 - edited
mvietp09

I know Magnus' rush can be jump dodged. I found this out by accident last time I fought him in hard mode. It has to be well times of course.

Reply May 2, 2014 - edited
Razzi

The issue I'm having isn't the mechanics of his attacks. I get them, I can deal with 1, 2 maybe even 3 back to ack dashes (in a matter of 5-6 seconds). It's when he's constantly aggroing with bombs everywhere that there's no downtime to actually safely attack without getting kb'd. I guess my question boils down to whether there is actually a way to get in hits on magnus without smite or sacro when he's attacking every other second. As for the rushing into a dash, the position isn't the biggest issue, it's the backswing of the rush animation that pauses me for .5 seconds. Maybe I'll just stick to a kanna Mel til I can drop 40s.

Reply May 2, 2014 - edited
chickenpoodl

how are you guys able to stay dead long enough to wait out your bind cycles?
whenever I do that, and his health is anywhere close to 50% or under, he freaks out and ends the fight...

Reply May 2, 2014 - edited
calebheads

Error 404 - mechanics in MapleStory not found

Reply May 2, 2014 - edited
Simfel

To clarify my earlier post:
I mean to say that it is possible to both negate Magnus' knock back as well as the Rush animation, so that you stay in place (as if your 100% stance actually worked).

Reply May 1, 2014 - edited
IHurtzLotz

the way around is soloing hard magnus is doing bind loop and then atk in between the loops altho classes like NL or BM or Phants have it much easier than melee ones

Reply May 1, 2014 - edited
Rorik92

just do a round of bind, as its ending use sacro and get about 50s of pretty consistent dps. Admittedly, 2h bw kind of sucks because you're locked into blasts animation for an extra ~30ms. Which for those stupid lightspeed blue and purple meteors can sometimes mean the difference between life and death. But yeah, like everyone else said its just practice, and even then you'll still have runs where he's just a tremendous jerk and you'll have to restart. GL.

Reply May 1, 2014 - edited
Redadin

[quote=Simfel]it may seem counter-intuitive to do so, but a well-timed Rush INTO Magnus will completely negate any knock back from his dash attack. [/quote]

He says in the post that he knows that.

Also pretty much what this guy said, mostly just common sense stuff it's down to practice.
You're not doing anything wrong, OP, you just haven't had enough experience solo yet. It might take you twelve or twenty five fails but once you are good enough with his patterns you will finally succeed and find it easier every time you go. Don't forget the uncalculatable variables every attempt that make it harder or easier. You'll get lucky runs or you get unlucky runs. Best of luck is what you need.

Reply May 1, 2014 - edited
Simfel

Use Sacrisactity whenever possible (if he isn't bound). If you don't have a hard time at all getting him to 30%, just keep spawning when your bind is reset and use that time to buff and attack. Every 5th or 6th bind should yield you another Sacro. As for the super KB, it may seem counter-intuitive to do so, but a well-timed Rush INTO Magnus will completely negate any knock back from his dash attack. You will want to practice the timing of this trick in normal Magnus when he is at the last stage of his aura. It'll take time to know when to Rush (to also avoid the falling rocks) and when to jump back (in the case of his spin move), but it can be done to a high degree of success.

Reply May 1, 2014 - edited