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@nate23: You realize that every major religion in America opposes gay marriage right? Also tell the "book that could have been changed many times" thing to the Dead Sea Scrolls, which show biblical texts identical to the ones we have today and were written ~50 A.D. (Or C.E., for you atheists.)

@imnooby:
@Smileyferret:
@dlink123451:
@Degrassi:
I Hope you all realize that however america was started, that can obviously be changed. There are some many amendments on what America once stood for, For example Black people and females being able to vote. Back then it was illegal, just like same sex marriage is now, which may I say will soon be legal. Who cares what religion America was built on, if you want to believe a BS book that could have been changed MANY times, be my guest. Also do you know how many religions now exist in America. Face it your wrong and things will change, quit being ignorant, love is love. Would you like it if society said it was wrong to be with the one you loved, whether it be a hetero or homosexual relationship...NO. As for it being aloud in maple, well it is a game, but i say who cares, If american is so "free" no one should care gay, straight, bi, or transgender, ONLINE OR OFFLINE. And to the person that agreed, Thank you very much. And to the person who asked if I think Obama is the best president ever, no, I do not. I do however like some of his ideas and what he stands for in some aspects, but overall no. One last thing, this is coming from someone who is Heterosexual.

[quote=Zana5]i am quite gay, and i really dont care either way, though it would be nice if nexon AMERICA (not korea) took a stand in support of gay marriage. but can i just say that i love playing phantom as a girl, because that makes her (and athena and mercedees) SO GAY. its great [/quote]
Yes yes yes

DS's backstory would be so much more subversive with a female protagonist, too.

[quote=Lillianaire]@Samoninja: Oh really? "Its basically you are born with too many feminine genes and all of a sudden you are layin back the way you talk, prancing around fluttering your wings like a butterfly and talking like a girl, that is because they are males with too many female hormones." That's not "related" to each other. Your definition states that you are EQUATING BEING GAY=BORN WITH TOO MANY FEMININE GENES.

"If gay people aren't more feminine, why are there so many wearing high heels, dressed halfway between man and woman, work in fashion industries or gossip industries which majority of men dont participate?"
You're basically saying that gay people are more feminine because there are a lot crossdressing gay people and gay people that work in gossip/fashion industries. AGAIN, THAT IS A STEREOTYPE. STEREOTYPE STEREOTYPE STEREOTYPE.[/quote]

Lol w/e good debate, i gotta go play some ball, cya miss Stereotype spammer. and i was saying gay people are more feminine not because of those listed but because the way they act, im pretty sure trans3xuals who went from guy to girl were all considered gay before the operation. Idk why im arguing fairly i couldnt care less about this topic, just that it should be left out of games. Im not gay, i dont wanna be gay, i couldnt care less if you feel gay or not. I like playing sports, not fluttering my wings like a butterfly while telling a girl how cute a dress looks on her. If you are a guy playing a girl character, enjoy yourself, no ones stopping you. World goes round, i still listen to rap music and eat KFC and like grape juice. Most stereotypes are true, climb out of your cage and stop denying, we black people love fried chicken and id love me some watermelon too. Cuz i wont deny it imma straight ridah you dont wanna f.... wit me, cuz you cant do nothin to a G , Just cuz im black doesnt mean im not gonna make it into Uni to study medicine though, and again Im craving some KFC right now.

i am quite gay, and i really dont care either way, though it would be nice if nexon AMERICA (not korea) took a stand in support of gay marriage. but can i just say that i love playing phantom as a girl, because that makes her (and athena and mercedees) SO GAY. its great

I don't see why not. I support gay marriage irl

[quote=Lillianaire]She's getting at the fact that you state that feminine genes or excess chromosomes turn people gay.
She's listing all those other different subcategories to prove you wrong, which you ARE.
Where's that article?[/quote]

I never stated that i just said they relate to eachother, and 2 posts ago i didnt say all gay people, i said majority.

Edit: Just google how genes and chromosones are related to being h0mo
Or google what the causes are of being born hom0

[quote=chainedwind]Gay trans men. Gay trans women. Genderqueer people. Femme cis lesbians. Butch cis gay men. Straight men and women with intersex conditions. Straight men and women who crossdress.

It's hopeless.[/quote]
Every person that you have listed is gay or bisexual, No clue what you are getting at, but obviously a straight guy or girl won't cross dress for no reason, A man does not want to be seen as a woman, reason why in many cultures wearing earrings is looked down upon because they believe it is a woman thing. If you were male you would understand, people insult eachother for being scared of doing something by referring to them as a woman, no straight man would cross dress, it just, uh..

Edit: Hey Lillinaire, I love how you are calling me stupid for supporting things that have been found but not 100% proven, Im pretty sure you don't understand what the difference is either 100%, I don't hate gay people as they probably can't help it, but the fact that you are blind to all those people that straight up say they hate gays without wasting time on them is silly. Iv'e always believed it was not because of birth but more because of past experiences and experimentation, but my teachers have always pointed out that it was not due to that reason but most the time from birth. My 11th grade Bio teacher made me research it and present findings to the class because she insisted it was was due to genes, (She was lesbian), anyways i had to do this while learning about the human body for my project, and well i found out we were both correct.

[quote=Samoninja]No but what im trying to state is that the reason most gay men act like females, is because of a birth disorder not something they adapt later on it has to do with their chromosones. Being gay is then later affected be peer pressure and personal experiences or in some cases people decide to experiment.
Tell me this please, If gay people aren't more feminine, why are there so many wearing high heels, dressed halfway between man and woman, work in fashion industries or gossip industries which majority of men dont participate?
Edit: Hey since you are so sure it has nothing to do with chromosones and you are miss doctor over here, do me a favour and do some quick research about how chromosones and genes affect peoples behaviour and make em more feminine[/quote]
Gay trans men. Gay trans women. Genderqueer people. Femme cis lesbians. Butch cis gay men. Straight men and women with intersex conditions. Straight men and women who crossdress.

[quote=Lillianaire]NOONONONONONONOO JUST NO. HAVING EXTRA SEX CHROMOSOMES DOES NOT MAKE YOU GAY. WHAT.
I'm pretty sure over half of all gays DO NOT have extra sex chromosomes. What. The. Heck. Is. This. Bull. You. Are. Spitting.
Please go look up Klinefelter's syndrome (XYY) and XYY syndrome before you make yourself sound even more misinformed.[/quote]
It's hopeless.

[quote=Lillianaire]NOONONONONONONOO JUST NO. HAVING EXTRA SEX CHROMOSOMES DOES NOT MAKE YOU GAY. WHAT.
I'm pretty sure over half of all gays DO NOT have extra sex chromosomes. What. The. Heck. Is. This. Bull. You. Are. Spitting.
Please go look up Klinefelter's syndrome (XYY) and XYY syndrome before you make yourself sound even more misinformed.

Edit2: Feminine characteristics =/= acting feminine. And also, gay people have their own reasons for crossdressing. That doesn't mean that all gay people are like that. You are heavily misinformed by the stereotypes that society has set up. Yes, it is largely true, but that doesn't mean it is true 100% of the time.[/quote]
I just did a little research and everything im finding is stating that being h0mo is either a birth disorder related to genes, or is due to past experiences and peer pressure

[quote=remembrent]wait. there are same gender rings though, like the umbrella buddy ring lol. and the daisy & clover rings.

i share the umbrella one with my bestie who happens to be a girl so yeah o-o

@jesseTWULFM2011
@Revuln[/quote]

Umbrella, daisy and clover rings are friendship rings. That's why it's okay to have two female/male characters linked together.
But I believe the crush rings are restricted. Even the descriptions of crush type rings say so.

The Couple Snow Dome seems to be the only ring that's not affected by the gender restrictions, despite it's name. My friend and I actually have the ring on our mercedes from when the permanent ring came out.

[quote=chainedwind]So basically: Feminine genes turn you gay because all gay men are feminine. Nobody is allowed to disprove your statement because you're preemptively disqualifying all counterexamples.

Lol.

GG.

And of course, lesbians and other queers don't exist.

Gay trans men don't exist.[/quote]

No but what im trying to state is that the reason most gay men act like females, is because of a birth disorder not something they adapt later on it has to do with their chromosones. Being gay is then later affected be peer pressure and personal experiences or in some cases people decide to experiment.
Tell me this please, If gay people aren't more feminine, why are there so many wearing high heels, dressed halfway between man and woman, work in fashion industries or gossip industries which majority of men dont participate?
Edit: Hey since you are so sure it has nothing to do with chromosones and you are miss doctor over here, do me a favour and do some quick research about how chromosones and genes affect peoples behaviour and make em more feminine

[quote=Samoninja]It doesn't? haha miss smart one tell me then, have you seen a manly gay- person?. No, The majority of em act like women, please use your brain before you think. You cant act like a woman even if you tried for a regular guy. But majority of gay people do it naturally, and im talking about people who are gay by birth, the rest of em have turned gay over time because of personal experiences. If you have no clue about what you are talking about i suggest you stay out of here.[/quote]
So basically: Feminine genes turn you gay because all gay men are feminine. Nobody is allowed to disprove your statement because you're preemptively disqualifying all counterexamples.

Lol.

GG.

And of course, lesbians and other queers don't exist.

Gay trans men don't exist.

[quote=Lillianaire]@Samoninja: Hey, you're a perfect example of a stupid person in our society!

No, man. Being gay does not mean that you have more feminine genes. Oh my god. LOL. That is the stupidest thing I've heard all day.[/quote]

It doesn't? haha miss smart one tell me then, have you seen a manly gay- person?. No, The majority of em act like women, please use your brain before you think. You cant act like a woman even if you tried for a regular guy. But majority of gay people do it naturally, and im talking about people who are gay by birth, the rest of em have turned gay over time because of personal experiences. If you have no clue about what you are talking about i suggest you stay out of here. If a man is born with extra chromosones, they tend to act more feminine, before you go off talking don't just talk about your beliefs, and from the perspective of someone gay, think about it science-wise

[quote=thebossSniper]If you had live 60 years ago during the civil rights movement you probalbly would've said black people are disgusting. What actually [b]is[/b] disgusting is stuipd people in our society with no tolorence for diversity.[/quote]

How the h.e.ll is it the same thing o.0 Black people were discriminated against because of their color, and jewish people are discriminated against often because of their religion same with muslims, and asians because of well asian stereotypes. All those<< factors of discrimination happen because of either the media, or because people who live in a white only community who think the whole world is white all of a sudden meet people that are black, and discriminate against them. Think of it like this if you saw a purple person all of a sudden, hed probably get discriminated against. Why? because its something youve never seen before thats it. Being Gay on the other hand, idk why people are proud of it. Its basically you are born with too many feminine genes and all of a sudden you are layin back the way you talk, prancing around fluttering your wings like a butterfly and talking like a girl, that is because they are males with too many female hormones. Thats like people being proud that they have autism or downsyndrome or some birth problem that is a bit away from the norm. Why make such a big deal, if they wanna make love to one another let em be but dont bring it to a public game, thats like adding the choice of having a character that has a conjoined head or has 4 fingers. Its something that happens with hormones, not a big deal stop making a big deal from it. These Gay people are people born with more feminine genes, stick to that.

wait. there are same gender rings though, like the umbrella buddy ring lol. and the daisy & clover rings.

i share the umbrella one with my bestie who happens to be a girl so yeah o-o

@jesseTWULFM2011
@Revuln

[quote=abakre2]@chainedwind: Yes, except this is Maple Story. You're saying that Nexon is like the government, and that Maple Story is run under a constitution with specific rights. Nexon is a BUSINESS. BUSINESS BUSINESS BUSINESS. We're not running a social revolution. Nexon isn't a business large enough to cause social change. Nexon wants PROFIT. The governments goal is to create social order. Nexon's goal is to generate PROFIT. If something is harmful to its company, it won't do it. I don't think you understand.[/quote]
No, I'm not. The thread is about whether we, personally, think it ought to happen -- as some bile-spewing bigots have more than amply demonstrated, I should think. The topic isn't "will Nexon profit from this".

[quote=xSnipe14xx]I had a similar thread about this. A moderator locked the thread after 2 pages.

Also, other games allow gay marriage.[/quote]

I am surprise this thread had so many comments. I didn't mean to offend heterosexuals and their beliefs. I simply just want my fantasy in a FANTASY GAME. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't see why people have to post all this 'gays are disgusting' and 'controversy' crap. >_>.

I want <3

@chainedwind: Yes, except this is Maple Story. You're saying that Nexon is like the government, and that Maple Story is run under a constitution with specific rights. Nexon is a BUSINESS. BUSINESS BUSINESS BUSINESS. We're not running a social revolution. Nexon isn't a business large enough to cause social change. Nexon wants PROFIT. The governments goal is to create social order. Nexon's goal is to generate PROFIT. If something is harmful to its company, it won't do it. I don't think you understand.

Eh, honestly we are supposed to live in a society that has some form of equality, sure homosexuality still has its social disgust by some people but perhaps in 30 years time things may change, I mean racism still goes on today, but if you are Black today you get a better life, 60 years ago you'd be expected to give up your seat because you are black. Honestly society sickens me don't get me wrong, there are good points and bad points with society. I just wish religion wasn't such a huge part of society. I see it more as a morale, a guide to general life. However the bibles teachings are a bit well outdated in some aspects, I mean sexism was incredibley bad. Racial profiling was insanely bad hundreds of years ago. But now we don't have any of the horrible things that happened hundreds of years ago because you weren't "deemed superior".

Regardless in the next 20 or 30 years our views will change as well as society, personally homosexuality doesn't bother me at all, I mean men are capable of loving another man, just as a man is capable of loving a woman. They should really stop the stigma with it. Also I think they should scratch the marriage system entirely, its a waste of money, and it isn't fair on those who are homosexual at least my opinion. But I suppose what I mean is you shouldn't have something if someone else is excluded from it because of different views. Also why on earth would you want to plant the idea that marriage is a fantasy entailed dream, at the age of 13. Marriage is a responsible commitment, eh call it what you will but this kinda makes a mockery of the concept of marriage indirectly? I still stand that Marriage is soemthing special to be shared between you and the person you love, if the bible says to love everyone regardless, then we should be capable of doing that, not stigmatise it. Hey if its perfectly acceptable to marry your dog then why can't homosexuality be legalised. Also another tid bit, I may be wrong here in some parts so don't qoute directly but, years and years and years and years ago sex was only seen as reproduce, there was no pleasure in having sex with a woman besides to repoduce. However those men found pleasure by other means.. needless to say women, nor animals were involved rather the same thing that is being stigmatised today, but course things were a bit different in their eyes.

I do apologize if I have caused any offense with my opinion, if I was wrong with my choice of words and such, I honestly mean no harm to anyone just I feel we should have equality since we have the power to do it just people can't change or make it thier own, we have to rely on outdated words. Now I'm going to sleep because I'm hella tired.

[quote=Oshawott]@Chxistine: I don't know how to say this without sounding homophobic in someone's view.. but well If i was a parent i'd like my child to know about hetrosexuallity before learning about homosexuallity. I'm not saying homosexuallity is wrong because it isn't but if everyone was homosexual, how would we make children hmm?

I'm sure many might agree with me, mostly parents. And for that reason Nexon would never introduce such an idea.[/quote]

Being gay is not a choice. It is who you are, teaching children about both homosexuality and heterosexuality simotaneously is nothing wrong. And you're worried about the world not populating? What about all those kids in homes that have no parents, that are waiting to be adopted by someone. Well, Gay's do adopt more than hetero's. Please don't say the human population is going to be stopped by gay marriages being put in a fantasy game.

@Chxistine: I don't know how to say this without sounding homophobic in someone's view.. but well If i was a parent i'd like my child to know about hetrosexuallity before learning about homosexuallity. I'm not saying homosexuallity is wrong because it isn't but if everyone was homosexual, how would we make children hmm?

I'm sure many might agree with me, mostly parents. And for that reason Nexon would never introduce such an idea.

[quote=potspans123]marriage in this game is stupid and pointless now. also if nexon were to do this then they should just allow it without anyone knowing... i honestly don't see why you care. if you really wanted to marry someone of the same sex then have one of you make a male and the other make a female character what the hell...[/quote]

I just wanted same sex rings, when did this situation turn into stupid marriages. I said maybe we should have same sex marriages, this isn't ment to be involved with real marriage. >_> It's designed fo fun, and if I can't make a male char and marry someone I want to in a fantasy game then.. This world truly needs help.

[quote=Revuln]Yea no you don't really deserve to talk like that. The children of today are experiencing even worse things than seeing gay people. Besides, they need to get used to the idea anyways. More and more people are coming out and rising above and beyond to find equality. We. Will. Prevail. <3[/quote]

So.. how will they reproduce?
o.o

marriage in this game is stupid and pointless now. also if nexon were to do this then they should just allow it without anyone knowing... i honestly don't see why you care. if you really wanted to marry someone of the same sex then have one of you make a male and the other make a female character what the hell...

[quote=stu321]Absolutely not. Think of the children that play this game.

There is a reason why nexon forbids this in all of the regions.

/endthread[/quote]

Yea no you don't really deserve to talk like that. The children of today are experiencing even worse things than seeing gay people. Besides, they need to get used to the idea anyways. More and more people are coming out and rising above and beyond to find equality. We. Will. Prevail. <3

Why not bring religion into Maplestory too?

[quote=KageReira]While I agree that not being able to change the skin color of those characters from creation is a problem, the thing is... it's still the same issue. Equality is equality for EVERYONE. Not just some people. I've said it 3 or 4 times in this thread now: we are repeating history instead of learning from it. Sexism, racism, or bigotry, it's all the same problem. Equality. And everyone should have it.[/quote]

I agree, but i think youre missing something. Skin colors vary region wise, due to the environment people have different skin colors. Being Gay is well could be two things: 1. "I didnt choose it, I was just born gay" = hormone defect, like a guy with female hormones or something, birth defect like autism downsyndrome. 2. It comes from past experiences, being bullied or r/a/ped when young can affect the way you think. So what im getting at is, unless you wanna have maplestory characters running around that look like they have autism or have a conjoined head, there is no reason once so ever to include gay marriage. Nuff said /end thread

[quote=Wush]no gay marriage should not be allowed as it is disgusting[/quote]

I bet gays think the same of a straight marriage.

Absolutely not. Think of the children that play this game.

There is a reason why nexon forbids this in all of the regions.

/endthread

[quote=Vadox]Gay people honestly IMO have something wrong with them. I Don't like them and its disgusting. Just the thought of being ghey frightens me.[/quote]

Sounds like someone is afraid to be their self...

OT: I'm not going to read through 9 other pages of comments, but if I had to guess a majority of people are probably saying something like the person I quoted. Another portion of people are probably saying this game is targeted towards kids 13+ so why force gay marriage on them? While the last portion of people are for it. As for myself I am for it. To the people who say this game is targeted towards kids 13+ I ask why would nexon even add marriage to a game you considered targeted for kids who are not even, in most cases, old enough to get a job to get nx to get married? Why let them marry if they mind is still developing and learning what they really want in life? Also I believe it says 13+ with parents consent or something like that so wouldn't that mean if gay marriage was in the game the parent(s) would have to approve for their child(ren) to play this game in the first place? So if the parents or kids were offended by gay marriage in game it would be no ones fault but their own.

Why would they add gay marriage its too controversial, and brings many problems. There are 2 genders in life Male and Female, and they have parts that connect like a puzzle for a reason. People shouldn't hate gay people, but why would Nexon support this, There is a reason why most gay men act like women, and therefore marry another man because they feel that they fit that role, which isn't exactly natural. Thats like Maplestory supporting the idea to change your character to a woman or guy and labelling you "transexual". It shouldn't exist. You complain about not being able to marry another guy when f.f.s people can't even make a black phantom. Let there be black phantoms and Mercedes then talk about ideas that are obviously not important at all like this.

No, just no. Not because I'm a homophobe, and not because I think homo marriage is wrong, but because getting up tight over such a non-issue as getting yer homo marriage *in an F2P MMO* is very sad.

No, just no! Being gey is not trendy or cool. Idc what lady gaga told you >.<

Plus everyone knows maple relationships are only good for gold digging!

>Arguing about Gay Marriage

Come on, I know 80% of the USA will not accept it. Texas, is my prime example.

[quote=Toyou]Yes America is supposed to be more tolerant but maplestory is run by a korean company,, which means they are not...
It isnt in gms' choice whether to allow it or not,, its a korean corp... -__-[/quote]

I understand that, however, that wasn't my point.

Erh... Im wearing 25k NX worth of pink NX clothes. (Basil please update)

who cares if you don't like it then just don't get married.

[quote=applebreaker]sigh. The game is managed in Nexon Korea, and they make all decisions over all things every other region does, including exclusive content as well.

Do you know why there aren't as many gays in Korea? because we don't allow mass portrayal and over-estimations on TV and media. There are many, many more gays on television and in other forms of media in the US than in Korea. Young children see this, and think that being gay is equal to being heterosexual. This is not correct. Homosexuality is a genetic condition, but now it is accepted as a social condition. While maturing, young children are naturally attracted to those that are like them, namely, their own gender. This results in friendship and feeling of normal relationships. When also affected by TV and portrayals of homosexuals, it confuses their feelings about "love" and "caring about" someone. They think that they "love" their friends, as TV or other media has shown them.

Granted, there are true homosexuals, stemming from a genetic standpoint. I do not feel that they should be threatened, or treated differently. They should have equal rights, as love, is indeed love. However, the overportrayal of gays in the media leads to confusion among children and may affect their sexuality, as they have no idea that homosexuality stems from a genetic issue. Unfortunately, many children fall victim to this trap, and are subject to "social homosexuality" in which they are not naturally attracted to men (or women, for women) but instead are confused about what feelings are, and rationalize that this must be "love"

Maple Story is a game, primarily for children and young-adults in adolescence. This is a high time when young children are pondering over their sexualities, and is a dangerous time to introduce what may be right or wrong or "normal"
We don't need any more portrayal of gays in the media. Nexon Korea is right in deciding this.[/quote]

So, instead you suggest that it remains forbidden, suggesting that its wrong?

What you said is absolutely true. Adolescents, which is what the majority of Maplers are, are constantly pondering about their sexuality, sexual interests, and other things pertaining to sex. Now, if an adolescent is attracted to the same gender, and they see negative influences everywhere they look, such as a simple teenager's video game forbidding homosexual marriage, wouldn't that make the adolescent scared, and make them not want to come to the truth with themselves? They would expect only failure, mishap, and nonacceptance in their future. There is absolutely no reason as to why homosexuality should be hidden in public media. None at all.

Maybe things in Korea are a bit different. Maybe Koreans aren't as advanced and tolerant as our society, but, as far as I know, America is supposed to be tolerant and accepting of everyone. Whether you be gay, black, straight, white, bi, asian, purple, blue, green, or rainbow, you are to supposed to have the exact same rights and respect as everyone else in the country. To my knowledge, hiding a specific type of person or interest from the media, is not equal respect or rights. That's like hiding interracial couples from the media, or not allowing an Asian family to star in a reality show because they're a minority. It doesn't make sense.

@chainedwind:

Giggles OK !
I think people should be who they are and not push there beliefs on others.
This goes for ALL Parties .
Bigotry covers a lot of things.

[quote=Wush]no gay marriage should not be allowed as it is disgusting[/quote]
Please describe how it is 'disgusting'

[quote=Darthic]Women in the kitchen......That's a thing of the past.
What are queer people ?[/quote]
Today is the past of tomorrow.

Queer people are gay people, bisexual people, people who are attracted to any gender, people who don't experience sexual attraction at all, etc. It's not just gay folks that are affected by straight bigotry.

[quote=abakre2]I edited my post so read the rest of it. NEXON IS A BUSINESS. Drill that into your head. There's a reason for everything is does - it's not run by a bunch of lunatics. It's all about profit.

Sure, there are tons of anti-gay comments in the game already. But the inclusion of gay marriage in the game is only going to increase the number of insults gays will receive in game. Deny it all you want, but its a sad truth. There are reasons why we have social organizations like the KKK - hate groups. If you think that the same isn't going to happen in maplestory when homosexuality is brought to the forefront through homosexual marriages, you might want to check again.

I'm no social scientist. But I've seen and studied enough of this world to see how people react to change.[/quote]
The TS wasn't asking about whether Nexon would do it, only whether it should be done. Happily, the rest of your post does address the shoulds. However, I recommend that when you are talking about the impact of any action on queer people, you should probably listen when actual queer people speak up and tell you what their experiences are like. What you are saying is tantamount to "institutions should make women stay in the kitchen and not hire them, because if you bring them to the forefront of misogynists' attention, the misogyny will get worse".

[quote=dlink123451]False equivalencies? Never did I conjecture that gays should be treated reprehensibly due to their sexual orientation. But I surely do not attest that gays should influence the young impressionable minds of children. For that in its self is unlawful.[/quote]
1) You said that following the reasoning "celebs make fleeting M/F marriages, so same-sex marriages shouldn't be outlawed" was the same as following the reasoning "celebs make outlandish hairstyle choices, so we should all make those same hairstyle choices". I corrected your logic, and pointed out that a more accurate conclusion to the latter, given the reasoning of the former, would be "celebs make outlandish hairstyle choices, so other hairstyles shouldn't be outlawed".

2) I attest that straights shouldn't influence the young impressionable minds of children. For that in itself is... where are you even getting unlawful?

[quote=chainedwind]...how does making in-game marriage M+F only prevent queer people from being treated badly, again? I hear anti-gay comments every single time I play; does the het-only system somehow pop up a message on people's screens saying "stop making anti-gay comments, that's bigoted and childish"? Does it mind-control people into being better human beings for the duration of their gaming session? Tell me; I'm very interested.[/quote]

I edited my post so read the rest of it. NEXON IS A BUSINESS. Drill that into your head. There's a reason for everything is does - it's not run by a bunch of lunatics. It's all about profit.

Sure, there are tons of anti-gay comments in the game already. But the inclusion of gay marriage in the game is only going to increase the number of insults gays will receive in game. Deny it all you want, but its a sad truth. There are reasons why we have social organizations like the KKK - hate groups. If you think that the same isn't going to happen in maplestory when homosexuality is brought to the forefront through homosexual marriages, you might want to check again.

I'm no social scientist. But I've seen and studied enough of this world to see how people react to change.

EDIT: I may not have properly answered your question. Point is, the inclusion of just heterosexual marriage doesn't matter. Nexon gets more profit this way. Also, I don't hear anti-gay comments every time I log on so I don't understand where that's coming from.

[quote=dlink123451]I suppose you don't have much of a comeback considering you're resorting to correcting my grammar. Rearranging my sentence doesn't do much considering the point still stands. It doesn't seem you have much of a rebuttal considering your argument is nearly unjustifiable. But that's ok, you gave it a shot.[/quote]
...I'm a linguist. I don't correct people's grammar; that's for schoolteachers and prescriptivists. I was correcting your analogy, because it was irrelevant and drew false equivalencies.

[quote=abakre2]This would be a horrible idea.

I'm completely for homosexual marriages and I believe that it should be legalized in every state. The thing is, it is completely wrong for this game. You seriously have to open your eyes and look around - the fact that one of the top comments in this post is, "no gay marriage should not be allowed as it is disgusting," should show that many people are against homosexuals. Although I am sure that Nexon has no wish to discriminate against homosexuals, it would not be a good idea to allow homosexual marriages simply because of the amount of people who are still against it. Homosexuals who play the game will constantly be discriminated against by maplers who are more conservative in this view. It would just create a whole mess that would be very bad for Nexon's business in the long run.

Now hate all you want, and I know it is bad to say, but including homosexuality is just bad for business. It sounds terrible, yes. But we must remain partial to the fact that a large group of people in the world is still against homosexuality.[/quote]
...how does making in-game marriage M+F only prevent queer people from being treated badly, again? I hear anti-gay comments every single time I play; does the het-only system somehow pop up a message on people's screens saying "stop making anti-gay comments, that's bigoted and childish"? Does it mind-control people into being better human beings for the duration of their gaming session? Tell me; I'm very interested.

Yeah me and a friend were gonna get married as a joke and to get the rings, but it wouldn't let us. =S

This would be a horrible idea.

I'm completely for homosexual marriages and I believe that it should be legalized in every state. The thing is, it is completely wrong for this game. You seriously have to open your eyes and look around - the fact that one of the top comments in this post is, "no gay marriage should not be allowed as it is disgusting," should show that many people are against homosexuals. Although I am sure that Nexon has no wish to discriminate against homosexuals, it would not be a good idea to allow homosexual marriages simply because of the amount of people who are still against it. Homosexuals who play the game will constantly be discriminated against by maplers who are more conservative in this view. It would just create a whole mess that would be very bad for Nexon's business in the long run.

Now hate all you want, and I know it is bad to say, but including homosexuality is just bad for business. It sounds terrible, yes. But we must remain partial to the fact that a large group of people in the world is still against homosexuality.

I would propose to get rid of marriage in Maple Story altogether, but that would force Nexon to forfeit a large amount of its profit (especially now that MTS is gone so people have to directly purchase NX).

Some might say that allowing homosexual marriage would increase Nexon's profits. In the short run, yes. In the long run, no. In the short run, a lot of true homosexuals would get married in the game. A lot of heterosexuals would get married to other people of the same sex just for the perks of being married in Maple Story. But by the end of it, enough homosexuals and supporters of homosexuality will leave Maple Story because of discrimination that it would be a detriment to Nexon's profit.

Another counterpoint - some might argue that homosexuals do not quit "reality" all too often due to discrimination so they won't quit Maple Story. The fact of the matter is, THIS IS THE INTERNET. You can say what you want, when you want, with no repercussions. People against homosexuality can and probably will go out of their way to hurt homosexuals in game.

I'm sure that Nexon has received complaints on this issue numerous times since the creation of marriages in Maple Story. I have seen threads on this topic for many years. The fact that they have not even acknowledged these complaints and written out an explanation to the Maple community just shows that Nexon wants to avoid this situation. As much as we won't admit it, Nexon is a smart company and makes smart decisions when it comes to making money and being a successful business. We can only assume that it has done the same in this situation.

[quote=dlink123451]So the actions of our celebrities reflect on the rest of the nation? So in that case I guess we should all bleach our hair like eminem or shave it like brittney spears.[/quote]
An appropriate analogy would be "So in that case I guess we should not outlaw hairdye or unusual haircuts".