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Your flash jump is glitched, it's supposed to be triple FJ ever since the RED patch. Also the distance has been nerfed too, even though it's supposed to be just like AB's.

I am surprised that if you Main a dual blade that you would not care about this or bring it up.

Just letting people know, if you don't know already.

(The final patch of the RED update has been released, bringing with it the long-awaited special changes to Dual Blade and Cannon Shooter. In addition, there is new player vs player content, Boss Arena and a theme dungeon with a new concept.)

(Flash Jump: existing Double Jump effect has been increased to Triple Jump (this means you can now use Flash Jump up to 2 times while in the air)

May 22, 2014

20 Comments • Newest first

jblz

They just keep adding more pointless stuff.... like how mages are going to be able to teleport in the air now...

Reply May 22, 2014
Zero

[quote=PandaBears]@Zero
Ew look at this scrub, you know your a noob when you have number(s) in your ign[/quote]

I will smack the oreos out of you :'( I want them to fix/update the DB sounds already, they sound so nice in kMS.

Reply May 22, 2014
PandaBears

@Zero
Ew look at this scrub, you know your a noob when you have number(s) in your ign

Reply May 22, 2014
janny1993

@OmgItsMazz: Yea I do agree the flash jump is a bit slow, ever since Shadower and Night Lord's flash jump got buffed I've felt like that

Reply May 22, 2014
OmgItsMazz

@janny1993: possibly, it would've been a lot better at clearing mobs if the distance was raised (especially if it was made the same as the shad/NL ones), but i feel like the current FJ is a little too slow, a good middle ground would be Phantom's flash jump i think, but the ability to use it twice in mid air instead of just once. Phantom has the nicest (single) fj in my opinion, isn't hard to control at all and goes slightly further than the DB/old thief ones

Reply May 22, 2014
janny1993

[quote=OmgItsMazz]@Zero: yeah i do wish they'd change the distance but it is like this in KMS too so it must be intentional, for whatever reason ._.
@CrossedGunn: yup.. incidentally none of those bugs have been acknowledged yet. might make another thread in the DB section as a reminder soon =/
@ryu626: the distance is shorter than the other thieves, but it wasn't decreased with the revamp, the only thing they changed about flash jump was that you can now use it twice in mid-air, that's literally the only change they made to the skill
@kobomb: we actually have both the new and old animations.. they, somehow, managed to merge both animations together instead of replacing the old animation with the new one i also reported that on the forums and it was ignored completely[/quote]

Very perceptive of you, I never noticed the animation on bloody storm.

Just my personal opinion, maybe they didn't increase the distance on flash jump because that'd make asura more deadly when doing mob control?

Reply May 22, 2014
OmgItsMazz

@Zero: yeah i do wish they'd change the distance but it is like this in KMS too so it must be intentional, for whatever reason ._.
@CrossedGunn: yup.. incidentally none of those bugs have been acknowledged yet. might make another thread in the DB section as a reminder soon =/
@ryu626: the distance is shorter than the other thieves, but it wasn't decreased with the revamp, the only thing they changed about flash jump was that you can now use it twice in mid-air, that's literally the only change they made to the skill
@kobomb: we actually have both the new and old animations.. they, somehow, managed to merge both animations together instead of replacing the old animation with the new one i also reported that on the forums and it was ignored completely

Reply May 22, 2014
kobomb

I've noticed we didnt get the animation update on bloody storm as well. i was kind of bummed about that, i liked the sound effect and look it gave, i believe it activated a bit faster too.

Reply May 22, 2014
janny1993

[quote=ryu626]@janny1993: I've tested the distance out on DB before and after and it totally seems like the distance is worse for a DB post Red.[/quote]

It feels about the same to me.

Reply May 22, 2014
ryu626

@janny1993: I've tested the distance out on DB before and after and it totally seems like the distance is worse for a DB post Red.

Reply May 22, 2014
janny1993

[quote=ryu626]Your flash jump is glitched, it's supposed to be triple FJ ever since the RED patch. Also the distance has been nerfed too, even though it's supposed to be just like AB's.

I am surprised that if you Main a dual blade that you would not care about this or bring it up.

Just letting people know, if you don't know already.

(The final patch of the RED update has been released, bringing with it the long-awaited special changes to Dual Blade and Cannon Shooter. In addition, there is new player vs player content, Boss Arena and a theme dungeon with a new concept.)

(Flash Jump: existing Double Jump effect has been increased to Triple Jump (this means you can now use Flash Jump up to 2 times while in the air)[/quote]

1, This is the wrong section.
2. You can jump 2 times while you're still in the air (though it doesn't always work just like Angelic Buster, Jett, Night Lord and Shadower), the jump distance is the same as pre-RED. It is definitely not nerfed. It's just that Night Lord and Shadower's Flash Jump got buffed and have longer distance.

I believe Max has already cleared your misunderstanding of the "triple" part.

You should be surprised that no one brought this up because there is really nothing wrong with flash jump.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
CrossedGunn

tbh db's are glitched in many ways. and nexon simply "ignores it". i remember a post on basil from @OmgItsMazz listening the glitched db's deal with. tbh it isnt really game breaking but kinda sad that it still isnt fixed.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
ryu626

[quote=OmgItsMazz]"Triple" flash jump was a mistranslation, it means jump > fj > fj (3 jumps).[/quote]

oh okay, sucks that the distance is shorter though.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
Zero

[quote=OmgItsMazz]"Triple" flash jump was a mistranslation, it means jump > fj > fj (3 jumps).[/quote]

I thought it was 3 FJ's but then I realized it is triple jump as in 1 jump and 2 FJ counting as three. They need to increase the distance as well as update the sounds for our skills..

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
OmgItsMazz

[quote=ryu626]Only dual blades said Triple FJ we only have Double.

@OmgItsMazz Okay but can they do Flash jump 3 times? if so than it's still messed up and before RED patch on my Dual blade when i FJed 1 time because that was all that they were able too. The distance was further than what it is now.[/quote]

"Triple" flash jump was a mistranslation, it means jump > fj > fj (3 jumps).

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
ryu626

[quote=4Times]At least you HAVE a Triple FJ.
Phantom's FJ is one of the worst ones out there [/quote]

Only dual blades said Triple FJ we only have Double.

@OmgItsMazz Okay but can they do Flash jump 3 times? if so than it's still messed up and before RED patch on my Dual blade when i FJed 1 time because that was all that they were able too. The distance was further than what it is now.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
4Times

At least you HAVE a Triple FJ.
Phantom's FJ is one of the worst ones out there

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
OmgItsMazz

It actually isn't, for whatever reason KMS Dual Blade flash jump also doesn't go as far as the Night Lord and Shadower equivalent. Look at a few KMS videos and you'll notice our FJ is the same as theirs.

We should be able to Flash Jump > Blade Ascension though, that is glitched.

And the triple jump thing was a mistranslation/misunderstanding. It means jump (1), flash jump (2), flash jump (3 jumps).

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
ryu626

[quote=Quasar]Triple flash jumps! Nexon just make the default speed 10 times faster so you can save time on making new flash jumps for new classes.[/quote]

Yeah every class having flash jump does suck. Personally I think only thieves and bowman should have FJ, but everyone would complain though.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited
Quasar

Triple flash jumps! Nexon just make the default speed 10 times faster so you can save time on making new flash jumps for new classes.

Reply May 22, 2014 - edited