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Discussion on 2x Card Cap Removal

I heard quite a ruckus today online when the patch notes came up. People were baffled that they removed the level limit on 2x cards, and heated discussions went back and forth on the change.
Positive- Macro'ing is a huge issue today, and it's becoming harder to tell respectable legit 200+ players from the phonies (I'm a legit 200 for the record 8 hours of bum soreness this weekend to prove it). While no, there is no justification for this, and it is using a third party program to directly affect gameplay, the amount of people using them expresses that there is a reason people want them. Maybe a good look at the state of experience received from questing, party quests, and party play zones will inspire people to still achieve the very difficult goal. Additionally, having another EXP modifier will be more motivational for people who get stuck in those leveling slumps.

Negative- The value of being a 250 will be devalued, and people may not see it as special as much anymore (much like what happened to level 200's ). It may create a bigger "Pay2Win" stigma around the game than there already is.

Leave your thoughts and lets have some civil discourse about this.

May 20, 2015

37 Comments • Newest first

Nimikyoto

I think with them raising the cap is a good thing for players that are definitely 200+ especially those who are 220+ since the amount of exp you need starts getting kinda crazy! I just hit 230 and to go from 230 to 231 you need 246B exp....so with this it decreases the amount of time you need to grind in order to level up, and I know that means I can also balance work and maple a bit easier. With enjoyable winters also starting to dwindle a bit it makes it much easier for 200+ players to be able to get that extra exp boost compared to trying to loot as many mesos as possible or selling nx just to be able to afford exp buffs from fm, because it does get extremely pricey after a while especially with the current nx rates and the lower amount of nx you now acquire on Karma Koins.

Reply May 20, 2015
MrSpeculoos808

I have nothing to comment cause it doesn't affect my gameplay. I don't buy 2x Cards cause im not in a rush to level to whatever desired level.

Reply May 20, 2015
SacredX

Well they removed double exp pend usage, so it sorta evens out (20% discrepancy since 150%+30% from 2hr+ pend is 180%?) if you consider 1.5x EXP boxes into the equation. I'm not sure of the math because of the way white exp stacks or doesn't stack, so correct me if im wrong.

Reply May 20, 2015
Dndre

I ain't even made it to 200 yet..

Reply May 20, 2015
quil

i really dont think this will make the game more play to win i just think itll speed up the process also you gtuys need to think about the new players adding another x2 exp might cause another player to stay starting off in this game is real hard.

Reply May 20, 2015
ElNath

This is going to make leveling a lot easier

Reply May 20, 2015
Evenings

i never really saw being a level 250 special i think being a high leveled such as 200-250 should be a self-worth accomplishment because nobody really cares about that people will just make fun of u like, "Oh congrats on training no life" and so on and so on

So yes i dont think its special at all no reason to make it a big deal

Reply May 20, 2015
Madzda

Glad I've decided to stop at 220... Could've been a costly affair.

Reply May 20, 2015
Renkotesu

It would make sense for them to remove the level limit, the amount of experience to get to level 250 is insane for average players to even think of attempting to get to that level. Financial downturns and the declining community is also what brought this about, as they have to find ways to improve their cash revenue flow. Anything that helps cut the training time for us while helping to support the game is what I promote, as no one likes to spend countless hours feeling like they achieved little with their character(s).

Reply May 20, 2015
AussieStyle

[quote=whatthejew]@AussieStyle:
I do not know, if you can figure that one out for me please let me know.
Peeps will believe what they want, but I do not just afk 24/7, I actually have to watch the screen as GMs do give me pop-ups for sitting there leeching.
I have never seen him botting once, and he has never been banned or removed off ranks.
It's up to you to decide what you think of me, but I've already said I do not consider meself legit for leeching/using two pendants. I also do not have any plans on claiming the 250 chair if beginners are able to get that quest.[/quote]

I don't think either way, was just curious to see that post yesterday but they provided no evidence so I just took it on face value. Honestly the only reason I noticed you is because I'm #36 in GMS and you're #37 and I've noticed the EXP per day you've been getting which peaked my interest. But regardless, gratz to you and gratz to me.

Reply May 20, 2015
invulgo

[quote=nahpets]Inb4 level cap is raised to 300[/quote]

Oh dear, hope that won't happen.

Reply May 20, 2015
whatthejew

@AussieStyle:
I do not know, if you can figure that one out for me please let me know.
Peeps will believe what they want, but I do not just afk 24/7, I actually have to watch the screen as GMs do give me pop-ups for sitting there leeching.
I have never seen him botting once, and he has never been banned or removed off ranks.
It's up to you to decide what you think of me, but I've already said I do not consider meself legit for leeching/using two pendants. I also do not have any plans on claiming the 250 chair if beginners are able to get that quest.

Reply May 20, 2015
AussieStyle

[quote=whatthejew]@AussieStyle:
Someone else, the person who has been leeching me for the past 11 months.
I don't do anything but provide kishin for him, which let's be honest isn't doing much.[/quote]

And that whole thread about you leeching off someone cheating yesterday was... what?

Reply May 20, 2015
whatthejew

@AussieStyle:
Someone else, the person who has been leeching me for the past 11 months.
I don't do anything but provide kishin for him, which let's be honest isn't doing much.

Reply May 20, 2015
AussieStyle

[quote=whatthejew]@AussieStyle:
I am not referring to meself, but rather the person who is getting me there.
This guy was lv 247 by the time enjoyable winters became a thing, never used duped boxes, or two pendants.
It took him a solid 7 months of grinding from 232 to 250.[/quote]

Are you talking about yourself or someone else?

Reply May 20, 2015
whatthejew

@AussieStyle:
I am not referring to meself, but rather the person who is getting me there.
This guy was lv 247 by the time enjoyable winters became a thing, never used duped boxes, or two pendants.
It took him a solid 7 months of grinding from 232 to 250.

Reply May 20, 2015
AussieStyle

[quote=whatthejew]I am fine with it, saves a lot of peeps going through hell.
The only thing I see this truly effecting is the rankings, but honestly at this point lv 250 should just be something you want to achieve regardless of where you end up on the board.[/quote]

I can't really see how leeching is 'going through hell' unless you actually can train as a beginner.

Reply May 20, 2015
nahpets

Inb4 level cap is raised to 300

Reply May 20, 2015
whatthejew

I am fine with it, saves a lot of peeps going through hell.
The only thing I see this truly effecting is the rankings, but honestly at this point lv 250 should just be something you want to achieve regardless of where you end up on the board.

Reply May 20, 2015
GekkeGerrit

200-->250 boring ! 50 levels training at StrongHold Drill hall. for me 200 is still the end.

Reply May 20, 2015
invulgo

I like this change, gonna go for more link 3 now

Reply May 20, 2015
AussieStyle

@SANsaurr: I guess it depends what server you're in. Since Scania and all the heavily populated servers already have their top 5s settled its not as exciting an achievement but Bello-Nova only has a Top #1 for both servers (I'll be the 2nd 250 for Bello by the weekend) but yeah I see your point. For me its more of a personal achievement than looking for public praise.

Reply May 20, 2015
yearn

Whoever said there was any value at lvl 250?
Only value is additional SP into main stat.

Reply May 20, 2015
SANsaurr

@AussieStyle: Yeah that's what i meant, but to me seeing a level 250 is nothing. It doesn't mean i think highly of that person. I guess some people really care about rankings Nothing wrong with that of course.

Reply May 20, 2015
WowChowMein

Honestly, the exp curve more then doubles at 220. It'll takes me 40b exp to hit 220 and 84b exp to hit 221. Tbh this came right on time. Im 219 right now and I was going to stop when I hit 220 this weekend, but maybe now I'll consider going past 220. I'll probably only train when there's a 2x event going on though. Outside of that I won't be training.

It'll definitely be easier to get a character to 210 thats for sure ^_^ LVL3 LINK SKILLS<3

As for value of 250, idrc. I lvl for my own sense of achievement. I don't care what lvl this guy or that guy is, whether they're legit or not. If macroing to 250 makes you happy, then by all means, go ahead. It ain't really my business.

Reply May 20, 2015
AussieStyle

[quote=SANsaurr]Who cares about that?
I don't see it effecting anyone terribly. It's just getting to 250 which you get nothing out of except level 3 link skill which isn't anything big.[/quote]

Level 3 link skill is 210. Its more about rankings positions for getting 250 at the moment.

Reply May 20, 2015
SANsaurr

Who cares about that?
I don't see it effecting anyone terribly. It's just getting to 250 which you get nothing out of except level 3 link skill (at 210) which isn't anything big.

Reply May 20, 2015 - edited
AussieStyle

[quote=Rachelll]You're from bellonova so my guess is that you have never seen a 1.5x box (1 hour) in bello before. In some other worlds, there are hundreds of them (from dupes) at a reasonable price (100mil/hour). This change actually makes it fair for people in your server as well as devaluing the value of these duped exp boxes.[/quote]

I'm in Bellocan, yes we've seen 1.5x boxes. I don't see how it devalues the duped boxes when you can combine both if they stack? Plus the fact some people don't like to buy 2x cards anyway.

Back to the OP, it will make a difference for those under 240. 240 to 250 will be the major test for people.

Reply May 20, 2015 - edited
Rachelll

[quote=ijoshie]It personally don't agree with it however it does allow people to get the 3rd level link skill easier now.
Part of it though seems as if nexon needs another cash income sadly o:[/quote]

You're from bellonova so my guess is that you have never seen a 1.5x box (1 hour) in bello before. In some other worlds, there are hundreds of them (from dupes) at a reasonable price (100mil/hour). This change actually makes it fair for people in your server as well as devaluing the value of these duped exp boxes.

Reply May 20, 2015 - edited
Espeo92

I liked that it was 'fair' because no one could have paid 2x for an even challenge... but I'm glad I can level up a little faster? I'm not really sure how to feel.

Reply May 20, 2015 - edited
xxDeva

I might get back to training now. Solid change

Reply May 20, 2015 - edited
goldyboi

[quote=ijoshie]It personally don't agree with it however it does allow people to get the 3rd level link skill easier now.
Part of it though seems as if nexon needs another cash income sadly o:[/quote]

Its not Nexons fault you guys can't move on. They simply wanted to make everyone quit, when the time comes, for maplestory 2. We already know they are going to host MS2 in the near future.

Reply May 20, 2015 - edited
ijoshie

It personally don't agree with it however it does allow people to get the 3rd level link skill easier now.
Part of it though seems as if nexon needs another cash income sadly o:

Reply May 20, 2015 - edited
MultiK3D808

is dis reel liaf?

Reply May 20, 2015 - edited