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@Axnslicer

Heyy could you give me some advice on how to improve my xenon?

[quote=Axnslicer]It looks like you have a very well balanced set up so far. You're also right about upgrading to Alien and Tyrant. Some further points you might be interested in.

Listing funding order requires knowing how much each equip/cubing costs, and while I'm familiar enough to do this with GMS prices, unfortunately I don't have very much information on EMS. You would have to check which, if any, of the following options make sense for EMS, and which order it would be best to approach them with.

Gloves: Normally I would recommend Dojo gloves instead of Tyrant gloves, as in GMS Tyrant gloves are expensive/difficult to acquire since they generally only come from Marvel. In EMS it may be different.

dSE: In GMS dSE is extremely cheap, thanks to dSE nebs. If I recall correctly EMS doesn't have the nebulite system, but perhaps getting dSE gloves/potential would be useful for you?

Scrolling: Many of your equips are clean. Prime scrolls are extremely strong for Xenons, but even 5/6 all stat anniversary scrolls generally serve well enough. You would see a significant range increase from scrolling the slots on your equips. These two and chaos scrolls are really the only scrolls that Xenons ever use for their armor, the spell trace system doesn't benefit us.

Other than that it would be good if you managed to get some good unique or leg lines on your whip/controller/hybrid heart, and that's really where I would focus cubing efforts.

After finishing up your leg/unique weapons, you'll have around 800k range. At that point you'll have entered the % all stat buying/cubing phase of Xenon funding, which lasts basically until end-game. At the moment you're largely riding on Xenon's ability to use 3 different stats, which is the correct way to efficiently fund a Xenon, but when you start upgrading you'll probably want equips with 6%+ all stat on their main lines.

You're right that Xenons benefit immensely from star force, you'll see gains of around +30 all stat per equip, which is like 500 + all stat in total, as well as a nice weapon att boost, so that's something to look forward to if EMS gets star force.[/quote]

Thanks so much, I learned most of the stuff about gearing from your posts, haha. I'll be trying to get my tylent gloves from Kritias, which will take a while but hopefully be worth it and recube my timeless glove to give dSE, maybe even dSI if I get really lucky.

Hopefully we'll be getting Star Force next patch, should be soon. I'm considering getting someone to prime scroll my CRA to maximize my stat gains from starforce. Obviously, if we get gollux, I'll still benefit because I'll be upgrading all my rings and pendants to gollux. Either works, I suppose. I'll probably get my weapon to 11 to 15 stars depending on how lucky I feel, and once I finish scrolling my CRA, those will be 11 stars at least.

As for scrolling, I'm currently waiting for the next set of events as our current ones are quite bad. Obviously if primes or 5/6 allstat ones come around I know what to do. I'm definitely scrolling my glasses and face accessory too.

Dojo gloves are fairly hard to get for EMS, we have mainly kradia, which means the dojo is full of people with higher ranges than I currently can compete with, soon(tm).

Still, it's pretty clear to me now that I'll just have to work on scrolling my clean gear and focus cubing on my weapon, emblem and secondary. I'm probably aiming for legendary on weapon and unique on the other 2 with 15% att on those. Would be nice to get a line of pdr, but beggars cant be choosers.

[quote=dragonglord]i think youre missing out on a gollux set. thats a massive boost when fully scrolled

EDIT: Does EMS have gollux? i didnt think b4 i posted[/quote]

EMS does as of the moment of this post not have gollux. If we do get gollux I'm gonna upgrade immediately.

i think youre missing out on a gollux set. thats a massive boost when fully scrolled

EDIT: Does EMS have gollux? i didnt think b4 i posted

[quote=Sinsanity]I was hoping I'd see you respond, your posts are usually very helpful as to what to improve.
Well, it's not just SDH, I want to reach 1m range as a short term goal.

List of equips (mind you this is EMS so we can not get gollux or ghost ship badge, so we have to make do with alien and meister set, which give around the same effect, but I digress):
Fafnir Split Edge 5 star, 88 STR, 70 DEX, 45 LUK, 242 ATT 3% Total dmg and 3% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 9% luk, 6% att, 3% allstat (needs cubing)
Tylent Altair Cloak 5star, 163 STR, 170 DEX, 165 LUK, 35 ATT, 3% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 6% all, 6% hp, 3% all
Tylent Boots 5star, 181 STR, 165 DEX, 165 LUK, 30 att, 4% allstat (flame) POT: Epic, 6% luk, 3% str, 12 DEX
Nova Altair belt 3star, 53 allstat, 10 att POT: Epic, 6% str, 3% luk, 44 acc
Royal wanderer hat, clean, 3% allstat (flame) POT: 6% dex, 12 dex, 120 hp
Eagle Eye Wanderer Coat, clean except 5 att from armor att scrolls, 3% allstat (flame) POT: Epic 6% luk, 3% luk, mdef 3%
Trixter Wanderer pants, clean, 3% allstat (flame) POT: Epic, luk 6%, dex 3%, dex 3%
Bunny disguise 3, clean, 2% allstat (flame) POT: Legendary, 9% allstat, STR 9%, LUK 9%
Evolution glasses, clean, 2% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 6% allstat, 6% dex, 6% luk
Green wolf pendant (placeholder for when I can wear alien): clean, 1% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 9% luk, 6% luk, 3% allstat
Silver earrings (again placeholder): Clean, 2% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 9% DEX, 6% luk, 6% hp ADD POT: Epic, 4% dex, 40 acc
Emp shoulder: Clean POT: Epic, 6% str, 3% luk, 3% str
Timeless Charlston: 18 watt POT: Unique, 9% str, 6% luk, 6% luk
Octa core controller POT: Epic, 6% att, 15% def ignore, STR +12
Hybrid heart POT: Epic, att 6%, avoid 40, hp 100
Berserker meister immortal ring: 5 all, 3 att POT: Epic, 6% dex, hp 90, int 3%
Guardian meister immortal ring: 10 all POT: Epic, 6% dex, mp 90, mp 3%
Tempest Ring: clean POT: Epic, 6% dex, 6% dex, 3% luk
DABR
Lidium Heart, 40 att (placeholder until primes come back)

I'm gonna get Alien set and 3 meister set which is another 90 att, I want to get tylent gloves but they're pretty rare right now. As for tylent belt, those are 10b clean and in high demand so very hard to get right now.[/quote]

It looks like you have a very well balanced set up so far. You're also right about upgrading to Alien and Tyrant. Some further points you might be interested in.

Listing funding order requires knowing how much each equip/cubing costs, and while I'm familiar enough to do this with GMS prices, unfortunately I don't have very much information on EMS. You would have to check which, if any, of the following options make sense for EMS, and which order it would be best to approach them with.

Gloves: Normally I would recommend Dojo gloves instead of Tyrant gloves, as in GMS Tyrant gloves are expensive/difficult to acquire since they generally only come from Marvel. In EMS it may be different.

dSE: In GMS dSE is extremely cheap, thanks to dSE nebs. If I recall correctly EMS doesn't have the nebulite system, but perhaps getting dSE gloves/potential would be useful for you?

Scrolling: Many of your equips are clean. Prime scrolls are extremely strong for Xenons, but even 5/6 all stat anniversary scrolls generally serve well enough. You would see a significant range increase from scrolling the slots on your equips. These two and chaos scrolls are really the only scrolls that Xenons ever use for their armor, the spell trace system doesn't benefit us.

Other than that it would be good if you managed to get some good unique or leg lines on your whip/controller/hybrid heart, and that's really where I would focus cubing efforts.

After finishing up your leg/unique weapons, you'll have around 800k range. At that point you'll have entered the % all stat buying/cubing phase of Xenon funding, which lasts basically until end-game. At the moment you're largely riding on Xenon's ability to use 3 different stats, which is the correct way to efficiently fund a Xenon, but when you start upgrading you'll probably want equips with 6%+ all stat on their main lines.

You're right that Xenons benefit immensely from star force, you'll see gains of around +30 all stat per equip, which is like 500 + all stat in total, as well as a nice weapon att boost, so that's something to look forward to if EMS gets star force.

[quote=Axnslicer]You don't actually need to 1shot the mobs at SDH. The standard Xenon training method is to hold down Beam Dance, for which 500k range is plenty.

Also, 500k range is oddly low, can you list your equips for us to look at?[/quote]

I was hoping I'd see you respond, your posts are usually very helpful as to what to improve.
Well, it's not just SDH, I want to reach 1m range as a short term goal.

List of equips (mind you this is EMS so we can not get gollux or ghost ship badge, so we have to make do with alien and meister set, which give around the same effect, but I digress):
Fafnir Split Edge 5 star, 88 STR, 70 DEX, 45 LUK, 242 ATT 3% Total dmg and 3% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 9% luk, 6% att, 3% allstat (needs cubing)
Tylent Altair Cloak 5star, 163 STR, 170 DEX, 165 LUK, 35 ATT, 3% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 6% all, 6% hp, 3% all
Tylent Boots 5star, 181 STR, 165 DEX, 165 LUK, 30 att, 4% allstat (flame) POT: Epic, 6% luk, 3% str, 12 DEX
Nova Altair belt 3star, 53 allstat, 10 att POT: Epic, 6% str, 3% luk, 44 acc
Royal wanderer hat, clean, 3% allstat (flame) POT: 6% dex, 12 dex, 120 hp
Eagle Eye Wandere Coat, clean except 5 att from armor att scrolls, 3% allstat (flame) POT: Epic 6% luk, 3% luk, mdef 3%
Trixter Wanderer pants, clean, 3% allstat (flame) POT: Epic, luk 6%, dex 3%, dex 3%
Bunny disguise 3, clean, 2% allstat (flame) POT: Legendary, 9% allstat, STR 9%, LUK 9%
Evolution glasses, clean, 2% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 6% allstat, 6% dex, 6% luk
Green wolf pendant (placeholder for when I can wear alien): clean, 1% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 9% luk, 6% luk, 3% allstat
Silver earrings (again placeholder): Clean, 2% allstat (flame) POT: Unique, 9% DEX, 6% luk, 6% hp ADD POT: Epic, 4% dex, 40 acc
Emp shoulder: Clean POT: Epic, 6% str, 3% luk, 3% str
Timeless Charlston: 18 watt POT: Unique, 9% str, 6% luk, 6% luk
Octa core controller POT: Epic, 6% att, 15% def ignore, STR +12
Hybrid heart POT: Epic, att 6%, avoid 40, hp 100
Berserker meister immortal ring: 5 all, 3 att POT: Epic, 6% dex, hp 90, int 3%
Guardian meister immortal ring: 10 all POT: Epic, 6% dex, mp 90, mp 3%
Tempest Ring: clean POT: Epic, 6% dex, 6% dex, 3% luk
DABR
Lidium Heart, 40 att (placeholder until primes come back)

I'm gonna get Alien set and 3 meister set which is another 90 att, I want to get tylent gloves but they're pretty rare right now. As for tylent belt, those are 10b clean and in high demand so very hard to get right now.

EDIT: Figured I'd add some additional info. I have 2580 STR, 2642 DEX and 2422 LUK unbuffed, my att is around 670 buffed.

[quote=Sinsanity]Your att is very similar to mine, but you have over 3k more allstat. I guess I'll work on allstat for now to see if I can get that up to your amount and hit 1m range. I guess with starforce hopefully coming soon I'll be able to get around 200 from just my CRA and I might 7 star my tyrants as well.

EDIT: probably should note that I'm not level 200 yet, but I'd like to be able to 1shot the mobs at A2 and SDH before I start grinding there.
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You don't actually need to 1shot the mobs at SDH. The standard Xenon training method is to hold down Beam Dance, for which 500k range is plenty.

Also, 500k range is oddly low, can you list your equips for us to look at?

[quote=morrie2]@Sinsanity:

3447 str
3997 dex
3832 luk

251 att whip
10 att pocket item
89 att from rings
56 att from hat acc top/bot/boots
15 att glove
45 ear + shoulder
31 cape
3 badge
51 from hearts

80 set effect
6 empress blessing
16 blessing of the fairy
no % att lol
kanna/DA link skill
maybe some % total dam from cards and what not but thats it[/quote]

Your att is very similar to mine, but you have over 3k more allstat. I guess I'll work on allstat for now to see if I can get that up to your amount and hit 1m range. I guess with starforce hopefully coming soon I'll be able to get around 200 from just my CRA and I might 7 star my tyrants as well.

EDIT: probably should note that I'm not level 200 yet, but I'd like to be able to 1shot the mobs at A2 and SDH before I start grinding there.

@Sinsanity:

3447 str
3997 dex
3832 luk

251 att whip
10 att pocket item
89 att from rings
56 att from hat acc top/bot/boots
15 att glove
45 ear + shoulder
31 cape
3 badge
51 from hearts

80 set effect
6 empress blessing
16 blessing of the fairy
no % att lol
kanna/DA link skill
maybe some % total dam from cards and what not but thats it

[quote=morrie2]i might have 25% all stat and a bunch of %luk,dex,str a decent weapon (+114 att 30% boss pot) most of my equips are epic/uniq, nothing legendary, i have gollux perfected, most link skills and i have 880K clean now, i dont even have a hybrid heart yet, as it wont become unique...[/quote]

Do you know off the top of your head how much allstat you have total? and how much att total?

i might have 25% all stat and a bunch of %luk,dex,str a decent weapon (+114 att 30% boss pot) most of my equips are epic/uniq, nothing legendary, i have gollux perfected, most link skills and i have 880K clean now, i dont even have a hybrid heart yet, as it wont become unique...

[quote=GunsNGuns]Depends on your equips now, but 5-7 star tyrants a nice weapon and equips with 6%-12% stat should get you way over 1m range. I had 1.2m range clean with equips like that and epic and some unique gear.[/quote]

When you say 6-12% stat, do you mean dex, str luk or allstat? currently sitting on 75% allstat without xenon link and MW, 160% str dex luk combined. I've got 5 star tylent boots and cape, might increase them to 7 stars. I currently have around 580 att clean, with 18% att.

Depends on your equips now, but 5-7 star tyrants a nice weapon and equips with 6%-12% stat should get you way over 1m range. I had 1.2m range clean with equips like that and epic and some unique gear.

2x what you have now.

1m buffed is really not that hard on xenon if youre counting ooparts. I probably had around 50-70%all stat and mostly mediocre equips. 5 star cape, 3 star boot and kinda bad whip. I maybe 30%att in total. Its really very easy to get to that point on xenon but after that it gets harder.

depends on your current stats.