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[quote=inuyou]@wingless666: no you're a r3tard try playing your phantom sometime maybe[/quote]

I'm pretty sure you should be telling yourself that. When more than one has stated that it does activate cards, and someone even provided visual evidence, i don't see how you continue being so adamant about it not triggering cards.

@wingless666: no you're a r3tard try playing your phantom sometime maybe

[quote=inuyou]@wingless666: no you just can't accept the fact it doesn't work i'm so sorry /.end thread[/quote]

Congrats on getting me to login to comment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekMsN0GaSnM

Stop playing Dragon Gem or w/e pizza slice it is. Or let the real trolls do the heavy lifting. This kind of work is not made for you.

@inuyou:

Ok, so you are lying, thanks for the info
/end thread~

@wingless666: no you just can't accept the fact it doesn't work i'm so sorry /.end thread

@inuyou:
Then you are either glitched or using a different skill or lying one of the three since I am using it, check the counter it should be going up.
Unless you are not using it on a monster then yes it doesn't gather noir procs unless used on a monster. Don't know which applies to you
honestly.

@wingless666: ...i just did. ice orb doesnt work with it. 100% crit

[quote=inuyou]@Spirateual: it does not activate phantom final attack whatsoever, tested it myself yesterday[/quote]

It should I mean i just used it today, no reason it shouldn't. All attacks activate noir except summons so if we steal it,
noir will prob with it unless someone can verify an attack that doesnt?

[quote=Spirateual]When it says no more that 5 seconds on the merc card, that means the -5% cooldown reduce cant be more than 5 seconds. i.e. 600 cooldown skill with -5% cooldown reduction will only be lowered to 595 and not 570. This would also mean that you could have -8 cd seconds on a hat, but you still can't spam assisting hunting unit.

I'm pretty sure delay between blazing extinction's attacks are much much greater than 210ms, probably around 910ms.

You forgot about Headshot hypers. Attacks +1, Boss damage +20%
Headshot has 4500% damage, 20% more pdr, and 20% more bd
Also, it hits 9 times which makes it do 450m total.
If what you say is true, snipe being ~31% better makes it better than headshot, despite headshot's greater %damage, damage output, pdr, and bd[/quote]

That was what I thought as well from reading the description, but then I was told otherwise.

I was addressing the spammability, i.e. "overlapping".

Screw ~31%, more like a flat 1/3 stronger at speed cap.

@Spirateual: it does not activate phantom final attack whatsoever, tested it myself yesterday

[quote=inuyou]since frozen orb does not activate carte mille and it has a 5 second CD i don't see where people are getting this idea that it's better than AB for phantoms. i've tested it on a bunch of diff bosses. AB outshines by pure number of consistent hits and frozen orb has the same damage btw...[/quote]
Frozen orb activates cards, or at least it triggers judgement draw.

since frozen orb does not activate carte mille and it has a 5 second CD i don't see where people are getting this idea that it's better than AB for phantoms. i've tested it on a bunch of diff bosses. AB outshines by pure number of consistent hits and frozen orb has the same damage btw...

[quote=iVege]I believe it can't go under 5 seconds, though that mat only apply to Mercedes' card.

Also, if Frozen Orb's spammablity is anything like blazing extinction, then it won't be all that amazing either.

And as for Headshot > Snipe, no way. Snipe still does 410% more damage and is faster by ~31%. Though it ignores 20% more defence.

If this is Snipe before it got nerfed in RED, then it'll be 820% more damage and faster by 50%. And no pdr ignore advantage, 0%.

and if we're going by max damage, it's 400m vs 400m with snipe being faster. though headshot benefits a bit more from skills and effects like epic adventure. though if it's pre-nerf snipe, then it's 400m vs 500m, and that snipe is even faster and deals even more hits, gaining more of an advantage with epic adventure.

though headshot does have snipe beat in range.

man, snipe really has fallen.[/quote]

When it says no more that 5 seconds on the merc card, that means the -5% cooldown reduce cant be more than 5 seconds. i.e. 600 cooldown skill with -5% cooldown reduction will only be lowered to 595 and not 570. This would also mean that you could have -8 cd seconds on a hat, but you still can't spam assisting hunting unit.

I'm pretty sure delay between blazing extinction's attacks are much much greater than 210ms, probably around 910ms.

You forgot about Headshot hypers. Attacks +1, Boss damage +20%
Headshot has 4500% damage, 20% more pdr, and 20% more bd
Also, it hits 9 times which makes it do 450m total.
If what you say is true, snipe being ~31% better makes it better than headshot, despite headshot's greater %damage, damage output, pdr, and bd

[quote=traderweak]But can you confirm if you get rid of 5 secs CD, will both Frozen Orb overlap? or the later just cancel the before?[/quote]

I'll just say that upon observation, yes it overlaps, but I won't say how I know since I think it's against basil's terms. I've tried spammable frozen orb, the cast time is a pain.

I believe it can't go under 5 seconds, though that mat only apply to Mercedes' card.

Also, if Frozen Orb's spammablity is anything like blazing extinction, then it won't be all that amazing either.

And as for Headshot > Snipe, no way. Snipe still does 410% more damage and is faster by ~31%. Though it ignores 20% more defence.

If this is Snipe before it got nerfed in RED, then it'll be 820% more damage and faster by 50%. And no pdr ignore advantage, 0%.

and if we're going by max damage, it's 400m vs 400m with snipe being faster. though headshot benefits a bit more from skills and effects like epic adventure. though if it's pre-nerf snipe, then it's 400m vs 500m, and that snipe is even faster and deals even more hits, gaining more of an advantage with epic adventure.

though headshot does have snipe beat in range.

man, snipe really has fallen.