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@caryofilles @Andwoos I think the biggest thing the Xbox One had against it was it's handling of games. How we had to pay a fee if we tried to play a game that had been registered on someone else's console. A lot of people complained about that as plenty of people still borrow from friends. Not to mention what that would do to the used game market and rental companies like gamefly. People were already made at EA for pulling the "online pass" thing where if you bought 1 of the games used and the code in the box had been used by the previous owner, then you had to pay extra to get online access. Xbox One was attempting to do a large scale version of that so you can imagine why it got a lot of negativity.

Sure the plans they had behind all of this sounded absolutely amazing, but their execution in revealing how it all works to the public is where they went wrong. I think had they addressed all of the issues and explained why they were going that route at E3, instead of focusing on the social, casual entertainment aspects of the console, it would have been met with less criticism. Because really, it started out as rumors, then the rumors were confirmed and xbox fans went into a frenzy.

I wouldn't mind a combination of the Microsoft's vision and the current layout for the 360. Like if you buy a digital copy you can use all the features that Microsoft scrapped to please the community, but if you buy the disc then things remain the same. I'm sure that would require some tweaking on Microsoft's end of things, but in theory it pleases everyone lol.

@caryofilles: I'm under the assumption that we're required to connect our consoles on the first day for updates and whatnot. It could be for registration purposes, or it could be to make sure any DRM issues that may have sneaked in and weren't removed are handled appropriately on day one.

The Xbox 360 being suggested for those without internet... can't argue much about that one. It did make sense since some of the games coming out for the Xbox One would also come out on the Xbox 360, and when the DRM requirement still existed, this plan made sense, but didn't let everyone benefit from a new-gen console. Right now, most of the games coming out for the Xbox One/PS4 are coming on their pre-gen consoles too (one of which being Watch Dogs, something I'm really excited for). I'm actually disappointed since there hasn't been announcements for other games, specifically GTA V. I'm still undecided if I want to get it for my Xbox 360, or wait and see if it'll come out on the Xbox One at a later time.

As for the disc versus digital issue, I see good things from both sides.
Disc:
[*]Physical media, easily given away or sold
[*]Can outlast the life of a HDD, if it were to fail
[*]No DRM requirement to use

Digital:
[*]Instant access to media
[*]Would require DRM/internet
[*]Doesn't require any additional physical media

It really does come down to preference, but I would prefer to have a disc. I feel better holding a physical copy of my purchase than the digital copy, especially since it entitles me to play when I please or give/sell it away. Discs also tend to come with better pre-order bonuses, from my experience. As for price, I haven't seen any real differences until months after a game comes out and the prices drop.

@Andwoos the new 360 they released was gimmick, it is made to look like the Xbox One that is all.

I too hate the playstation controllers, but i am not a fan of the Xbox One controllers either the changes they made to them dont suit my tastes.
Xbox has more exclusives that i like and tbh i dont plan to play games online anyway so i would rather play a game that has good single player that i know will be good like the previous games in the franchise. (Dead Rising 3) (I was expecting at least something about Fable 4, and when it is announced i hope to god that they change the horrible combat implemented into fable 3).

People were doing the exact same things when steam and other virtual markets arrived on PC. There were so many against the idea of the virtual markets like steam yet look at them now they have flourished.

Also there were some really stupid points made by people against Xbox about the digital game store not having sales, which they were complaining about right after a digital sale for the 360.

@Andwoos: Hmmm, that does sound like a good idea. I believe Microsoft also said you would still need to connect to the internet the first time you play your console. Not sure why though. In my opinion, saying that the Xbox 360 was for those who didn't have internet was a stupid thing to say lol. Hopefully Microsoft adds back some of those features later or have what you suggested. I'll probably just buy all my games online so that way I don't need a disc. Hopefully it will be cheaper to buy it that way too, so I'm not losing much money from not being able to resell my games.

@caryofilles: I never heard anything about any codes for the Xbox One. I did hear that Microsoft suggested getting the Xbox 360 if you couldn't meet the internet requirements, also mentioning how they were going to continue to support the system and release new games for it. They also released a new Xbox 360 during E3 apparently, which further helps support this.

I know people didn't understand the DRM requirement and only saw it as "I need internet to play my games? Bull!" Yeah, it was necessary since you didn't play games off of the disk, but you used the disk as media to download and install the game from, not needing it afterwords. That was a good idea since it allowed you to play any game off of your hard drive, but then you had to confirm you were the rightful owner of the game and not someone who just copied the files and transferred it to another system. Being able to gift a game to a friend was a great idea, but was based around the DRM requirement also (I liked this idea). The family sharing idea was intriguing, but I don't have any opinion on the matter since it wouldn't have affected me.

The best idea would to petition for the ability for players to choose between a DRM requirement (meaning all games would require installation/download to the Xbox One's hard drive), or a non-DRM configuration (the changes that will currently be in effect). I'd support that, even though I doubt it would happen.

I'm not a Microsoft Fanboy or a Sony Fanboy. I don't own consoles from either company. (Nintendo for life)

@Andwoos: From what I remember, Microsoft planned on making codes that they could give to soldiers overseas so that they wouldn't need to check online. I know the DRM requirement was a pain and like someone else said, they shouldn't have touched some of the great features the Xbox One had. The removal of the DRM requirement is good and all, but for what we lost, to me specifically, it wasn't worth it. I just wish they would bring back those features they have taken away. DRM doesn't affect me. lol, I hate the PlayStation controller too.

#Dealwithit

[quote=caryofilles]I wish Microsoft would allow you to play your games without the need of having your games inside the console like they were originally planning to have. Because of the removal of the DRM requirement, they have decided to continue making you switch games inside your console and I believe they also removed the "circle of friends" bonus, correct me if I am wrong please. I honestly didn't see much of a problem of having a DRM requirement. How many people don't have internet in their homes nowadays? I know there are many people who don't, but if you can afford the Xbox One, I'll assume you can afford internet. For the soldiers who don't have internet, they could easily just buy a PS4 instead. Not that big of a deal. It sounded like Microsoft was going to make special consoles for soldiers anyways that could play offline. If your internet goes down, how long does it usually go down for? If you can't go 2-3 days without playing your Xbox, I think you have a problem. [/quote]

I'm sorry, but if I was a soldier overseas, I wouldn't want to be forced into buying a PS4. I hate the PlayStation controller and never could understand how using that controller could be considered ergonomic, along with other complaints. Along with that, there are some games I enjoy playing that aren't on PS4 (one of the ones I'm buying is Forza 5).

Like I said, I'm buying an Xbox One regardless of the DRM requirement being in place or not. I completely disagree with this petition since what it's asking for would cause more turmoil and would bring back problems from before (as stated with the armed forces overseas issue).

You... have got to be kidding me.

Look, many of the features people were opposed to were met with so much flak, because they were taking the industry down a path nobody wanted. Everyone knew the DRM and online check policies were nothing more than restrictions on a product the person already paid for and it was not going to fly with anyone. However, with the change, Microsoft removed some of their more positive ideas (such as family sharing). Why? Good question. They had no reason to do so. It's almost as if they punished their fanbase for opposing their "brilliant ideas". In all honesty, they had no good reason to take something away that had nothing to do with their more underhanded policies.

If you want a petition, make one for Microsoft to add the family sharing system back into the XBox One, not turn it back into the black hole of the next generation.

Honestly, this petition is absolutely moronic.

I wish Microsoft would allow you to play your games without the need of having your games inside the console like they were originally planning to have. Because of the removal of the DRM requirement, they have decided to continue making you switch games inside your console and I believe they also removed the "circle of friends" bonus, correct me if I am wrong please. I honestly didn't see much of a problem of having a DRM requirement. How many people don't have internet in their homes nowadays? I know there are many people who don't, but if you can afford the Xbox One, I'll assume you can afford internet. For the soldiers who don't have internet, they could easily just buy a PS4 instead. Not that big of a deal. It sounded like Microsoft was going to make special consoles for soldiers anyways that could play offline. If your internet goes down, how long does it usually go down for? If you can't go 2-3 days without playing your Xbox, I think you have a problem.

[quote=LetThereBeFradd]cause some people like to play with friends and their friends are getting the Xbox One, babe[/quote]

if you have friends that b***h and moan
then maybe you should find friends that arent idiots
thats why i go solo, ppl are dumb

@LetThereBeFradd: chances are their friends dont like the xbox one either
the closer you're, the more similar your thoughts are

Lol like the 7,500 of you matter compared to the hundreds of thousands that wants the reversal.

LOL obviously not.

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Anyone who supports the Xbox One before DRM was removed clearly just wants a video game crash.
Anyone who supports the Xbox One after DRM was removed is either very hopeful of Microsoft's capabilities, way too trusting, or just has terrible taste in games.

lol this is just too funny

I've already pre-ordered an Xbox One before the DRM change, and I really can't see any good reason to warrant a change back right now.

Consumers didn't agree with the "always on" requirement for DRM. Microsoft listened and made changes. Not only that, but it also solves the "What about those people that don't have internet, like armed forces overseas" issue that was also brought up. If they really wanted to, they could always implement the DRM requirement later with a system update. But, we still have four months until its release anyways, so everything is still subject to change, thus we'll see what happens.

@tonytony40: but i dont see how it was xbox's fault
*i dont keep up with xbox stuff much*
did xbox lie to them? or just tell them some ideas which they might do?

[quote=tonytony40]This was to be the future of entertainment. A new wave of gaming where you could buy games digitally, then trade, share or sell those digital licenses. Essentially, it was Steam for Xbox. But consumers were uninformed, and railed against it, and it was taken away because Sony took advantage of consumers' uncertainty.[/quote]

I like how you make it seem like Sony is evil.

[quote=mechibi]umm if people hate the xbox one so much, just get a ps4 -___-[/quote]

This was to be the future of entertainment. A new wave of gaming where you could buy games digitally, then trade, share or sell those digital licenses. Essentially, it was Steam for Xbox. But consumers were uninformed, and railed against it, and it was taken away because Sony took advantage of consumers' uncertainty.

umm if people hate the xbox one so much, just get a ps4 -___-