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Cost effective way of achieving 2mil range

So I am at 1.2mil range buffed without hypers and looking to hit 2mil when possible just trying to figure out most cost effective way possible.

http://imgur.com/a/0o51e#0

If I calculated right I have:
207% Str with MW
18%Atk
699 total Atk
65% Total Damage (40% from Blast Buff, 25% per charge orb from AC)
Bossing at 234%
PDR at 85%
Most of this is okay but I know my %Atk is extremely low, and I need a bit more in PDR.

I know my weapon's potential isn't good right now but waiting on miracle time to tier up to legendary and then cube for 1 bossing line and then I guess the rest in %atk if I can get it. And I know majority of my gear doesn't have any nebs on them so currently trying to figure out which is more important nebing my gear with 3-4%str or cubing my 6-9%str gear for 15%+str. I have about 14bil in actual meso but majority of my meso is tied up in trying to sell a bunch of stuff but economy isn't that well right now so none of my stuff is selling.

What should be my priority to achieving the 2mil range?

March 2, 2015

23 Comments • Newest first

who8myrice32

I see. Also I forgot to calculate my set bonus from my CRA and gollux but I doubt that make a huge difference in what you guys suggested So I think its best for now to just wait for miracle time and save up money to convert to Superior set with 15%str+. Thanks all.

Reply March 4, 2015 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=Qwertrew]Blast crit rate hyper isn't shown in the window but it is applied. So you basically have 100% already! More accurately 113% with blast. So really.. 98% if you drop the ring. Wurf 2 replace.[/quote]

[quote=who8myrice32]Oh then I guess I will drop the critical ring and look for a 15%+str ring.[/quote]

Remember he's recubing his weapon, so he's going to lose 8% crit rate from that. Whether that changes the math idk, I'm not a pally, but I feel he's better off keeping the ring if he needs it to reach 100% crit. If he reaches 100% crit w/o the ring and w/o his 8% crit from his weapon then I agree that switching out for a 15% str is good, but he probably wants to wait until after cubing normal/bonus weapon pots to decide this.

[quote=who8myrice32]
About Part C, why would putting 25%bossing help me much? Isn't me having 234% being in the range of 200-250% bossing enough? Would 4%Atk neb be an option too or is 25% bossing more beneficial? [/quote]

200-250% is ideal assuming you have 0% att. For every extra % att you have, you need 3.3% more boss to reach your ideal balance. Since you're going to be cubing bonus pots, it's very likely that you'll end up with over 40% att. That means you'll want 300%+ boss. So use a 25% boss neb.

Reply March 3, 2015 - edited
who8myrice32

Oh then I guess I will drop the critical ring and look for a 15%+str ring.

Reply March 3, 2015 - edited
Qwertrew

Blast crit rate hyper isn't shown in the window but it is applied. So you basically have 100% already! More accurately 113% with blast. So really.. 98% if you drop the ring. Wurf 2 replace.

Reply March 3, 2015 - edited
Rationalism

If it's at all possible you should switch to tyrant belt/dual gollux pendant combo.Get 2 lines of %attack on your weapon potentials and your range should shoot up.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
who8myrice32

Oops slightly mistaken from what I recall on my critical rate.
I am at 93% critical rate ( Well technically 100% cause 8% from my sword but I know that wont be there forever once I cube my sword) without my ring. Would it be worth losing 7% critical rate and 5% min critical for a %str ring?

I have level 120 Phantom and BT, DSE, 10% Hyper and lvl 200 Marksman character card.

Btw how does Blast calculate critical? On Blast's description it says 42% Critical and Blast's hyper says 20% (Should be 62% right?). I am at 51% with DSE but no Blast buff, once I have Blast buff I am only at 93%. Shouldn't I be at 100%? Unless it isn't the critical isn't shown on window.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
Klytta

@who8myrice32 Something that can greatly add to you range is bonus potential on all of your equips. 10/11 attack bonus potentials can be achieved on rare. Start with your best items and go one by one until you get 3%+ str or 10 attack on each bonus potential. Sometimes you can get lucky and it is 10 attack upon reveal or only 1 or 2 cubes later. That will add some serious ATT when all done, and should increase your range greatly.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
Qwertrew

For the ring. I think you can easily achieve 100% crit (on blast) without using the crit ring. Do you have lvl120 phantom and BT? Because blast gives you 42% crit already. Hyper is 20. So that means if you achieve 38% crit rate you're already at 100% with blast.. Phantom gives you 15. BT gives you 7. Sharp eyes gives you... 15? Errrr either way you should be close without ever having to use the ring

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
xterryxxbuix

Honestly I don't think it would be cost efficient to get css that pendant but also if you absolutely insist on keeping that belt , you could get a new rein pendant, perfect please, and also a perfect sup pendant, still get 4 effect bonus and a small bonus from the 2 set effect superior not sire it is if that is a gooooood idea, but it is something you could think about

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
who8myrice32

@xterryxxbuix
I honestly was never that godly except in the 2004-2006 ish era. But after that I been hacked several times here and there so I sorta just tried to enjoy the game rather then strive for the best equips up until my return this last December. I will be sure to add you when I get a chance. I know I seen you around FM a lot lol. Would it not be worth CSS my Pendant and rescroll or should I ditch it entirely for Superior? I guess I will look more closely towards a Tyrant belt, but I typically buy prescrolled/made gear and unsure about the prices of a Tyrant belt. As for the greed perdant with 15%str I got lucky when I had free cubes awhile back and got lucky.

@WhoaMomma1
Before I started this thread I was hesitant about throwing those nebs on my armor because those nebs run for about 3-4bil in bera so at most I can afford 3 of them and didn't think it would be beneficial compared to upgrading my gear in comparison. Most of the responders here reconfirmed that for me.

Also I wanted to switch out my Critical Ring for a %str ring but I learned it was better to have 100% critical rate then to have 8x% critical rate. Just and FYI to anyone looking at my rings.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
Qwertrew

I agree with @terryxxbuix, even though he's a know-it-all scrub. I don't think you'll notice the cost of the second pendant much.
As a general pointer I think you should just try to get all your stuff to 15%-21% unique. After you do that, start thinking of getting 21% legendary, but don't' start getting those until you have practically everything at 15% uni. After you have 21% legendary things start worrying about bonus pots on those items.

Also %att nebs dont' work on emblems last time I checked so you have to use %str. Keep note that per %str, [B] 2% nebs might be MUCH more efficent than [A] 4% ones. And I wouldn't recommend dumping a 4% neb unless you were SURE you'd use that equip forever. For a lot of your gear, I'm not sure you'll use it forever. For example, I'd replace your 9% gollux things with premade 15% ones, because it's cheaper than making them yourself AND THEN toss the neb on them.

EDIT: Also @terryxxbuix, buy my fokin ring.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
WhoaMomma1

Now start nebbing with [A] Nebs 3-4% STR.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
xterryxxbuix

Hmmm, I always thought you were really really pro, I don't have anything to add, just save up money, cube when miracle time comes out hope you get a 27% + luk/str gollux item, SELL it then get yourself all 15%-21% items, if you want to be cost efficient 27% + items are not the way to go

since I feel really bored , if you want hell carrys daily, add me il run you through if we on at the same time.

Edit: idk of anyone npticed, but you need to replace that pendant, the extra stats from 4 scrolls is 16 at 12 all stats, which is quiteeeeee a lot and since it isn't really cubed well, I would recommend just not using it at all, and don't bother selling sadly, not worth the psok

@qwertrew scrub where my money!

In my personal opinion a 2nd pendant is 100% worth it if you switch that belt to a tyrant belt 7 stars, if not, it's debatable, but it is essentially "free" dmg, even with your limited funding I don't think you would notice 2-3k nx a month on a 2nd slot even if you don't swith out the belt and Aleady have a 4 set bonus from gollux, your greed pendant is 15%! Lol

Atk% neb doesn't work on emblem 99% sure

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
who8myrice32

@Axnslicer
About Part C, why would putting 25%bossing help me much? Isn't me having 234% being in the range of 200-250% bossing enough? Would 4%Atk neb be an option too or is 25% bossing more beneficial?

@itoldyounoob
Yes I know %Atk is much better for us then %TD, thank you though. Finding a Tyant belt in Bera is kind of hard I think? I never really tried but I will look into it.

@Exploder
I tossed that out a while ago. But I'm content with my current shoulder.

@Harbour
I know that, thank you but like I said I'm okay with my bossing %, I don't think theres much use in it right now.

@Qwertrew
I thought about getting that second pendant slot but not sure if having to renew it every month was worth it compared to upgrading the rest of my gear. I currently have a 15%str Greed Pendant I switch out between my Reinforced Pendant when at bosses. I guess I should look into buying/making a Superior Pendant, about 1.5bil clean last I checked in Bera so I will look into getting some carry in Hellix runs. Thanks.

It seems like I should just save my money right now for cubing. I knew beforehand that my 6%str badge and 9%str Gollux stuff was mediocre at best. I think I probably get more benefit cubing my sword/emblem during Miracle time and hope for the best then throwing 4%str nebs on all my armor. I will throw 4%atk neb on my emblem (I believe that works) when lock is gone. And my bonus potential on all my equips suck cause the stat isn't as high compared to regular potential but I will probably work on weapon/emblem bpot when I get the chance.

Thank you all for your help.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
Qwertrew

Looking at your equipment, the cost of most upgrades is approx equal and give you the same output. So there isn't much to do except slowly work at it.
However, what does stick out for me as a paladin is the fact that you don't have a second pendant. You're giving up a LOT of stats by not having it, in my opinion, even if you already have the 4 set gollux.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
Exploder

You can get the Krexel pauldron, its high tier also, like SW.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
itoldyounoob

@who8myrice32
I can't give you cost efficiency, but I can say more or less what you need to improve.
Getting a tyrant belt 7 star could help visual range a bit.
However: I think the biggest thing to do is to just cube / bpot cube your sword and emblem. The 2ndary's decent. % att will help you tremendously. As a fellow paladin, I can say don't keep %TD. It's way less of a boost than % att for us. It's not exactly the "cheapest" but it's probably the biggest range jumper you'll get.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
who8myrice32

I have all level 2 link skills already left them at level 120, don't really plan on getting them to 210 for level 3. So I guess its better to focus more on potential rather then throwing nebs on my gear? I wish their was bonus potential cubes in reward shop but I guess I will have to deal with buying from CS. I don't want to spend RL money so I will just convert my meso to NX then buy cubes I guess. Thanks all.

Edit: I'm actually a Paladin. Hero in my name was cause this character was created before 4th job was released years ago. And I actually do use Dojo gloves, I only use the empress gloves for SE. Forgot to state that in OP.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=who8myrice32]So I am at 1.2mil range buffed without hypers and looking to hit 2mil when possible just trying to figure out most cost effective way possible.

http://imgur.com/a/0o51e#0

If I calculated right I have:
207% Str with MW
18%Atk
699 total Atk
65% Total Damage (40% from Blast Buff, 25% per charge orb from AC)
Bossing at 234%
PDR at 85%
Most of this is okay but I know my %Atk is extremely low, and I need a bit more in PDR.

I know my weapon's potential isn't good right now but waiting on miracle time to tier up to legendary and then cube for 1 bossing line and then I guess the rest in %atk if I can get it. And I know majority of my gear doesn't have any nebs on them so currently trying to figure out which is more important nebing my gear with 3-4%str or cubing my 6-9%str gear for 15%+str. I have about 14bil in actual meso but majority of my meso is tied up in trying to sell a bunch of stuff but economy isn't that well right now so none of my stuff is selling.

What should be my priority to achieving the 2mil range?[/quote]

Lol, somehow who actually knows how to ask for equip advice.

If you want 2 M range cheaply, switch to DrK, instant 2 M range, cost, one job advancement coin.

Assuming you want to stay as a Pally, it's going to be quite a bit harder.

Let me be straightforward about this, 14 B isn't going to cut it, you're going to need about 200 B in meso/NX in order to hit 2-2 M range.

Looking at your overall situation it's clear you're in the very awkward position of having good equips that just aren't quite "good enough". This is usually what happens when player upgrades slowly, and eventually ambition outgrows foresight. 6-9% stat items and epic items aren't enough, you need to average 15% str per equip (pre-neb) or better. This means that you will eventually need to either sell off these 6-9% stat equips and buy better versions, or waste a great deal of money cubing.

But that's in the future. Let's look at what you should focus on right now.

A) 12 star your non-superior equips.
B) Your emblem seriously needs to be cubed to 2 lines of % att/pdr
C) The most important neb for you is actually a 25% boss neb. Unfortunately you locked your weapon for 2 months. Place the neb when the seal expires.
D) Your Weapon and Emblem both need to be bonus cubed to 6% + att during Miracle Time.

These are the 4 primary items that still follow proper funding order. Handle these 4 first, don't put meso/NX into the items below until after A->D are done.

Now onto the difficult section. To be honest, you're going to be broke long before you hit this point with your budget, so everything you read below is for the far future.

E) You have epic and unique 9% str equips. That is not enough for 2-2 M range unless you have some truly amazing weapon potentials, like, 30% + att weapon potentials, which is unrealistic. So you're going to have to upgrade.

You need to decide whether you're going to sell these equips, or recube to 15%+ str during Miracle Time. Selling is harder (and you need to pay for psok), cubing is more expensive, pick your poison.

If you do decide to replace your equips instead of recubing, do Gollux first, since it's a all-class items.

F) Android Heart: You can do better than 35 att. Prime scrolls are a little expensive atm, but you can rather easily make a 50-60 att heart using LDS and the childhood friend heart. Collect the materials now before the event ends, so it's an option if you decide to pursue it later. Your end-game ambition is a 90-110 att heart, level 10 will do fine.

Your cape, top, pants, shoulder, SW eye, and SW face are all good.

Your secondary is also end-game. However, % boss and % pdr don't show up in range, so their benefit will only be reflected in your dps. I don't suggest recubing, but if you insist on getting 2-2 M range at the expense of actual dps, you can recube for % att/total damage.

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
FunkyFlame

I like your equips! They're quite good Personally I'd throw a bonus potential scroll on the emblem, they are quite cheap right now! And hope to get some %atk! And next event where you can farm coins for Chaos scrolls of goodness, inno your CRA equipment and hope for 20 w.atk+! Other than this, keep on cubing I guess. Also make sure to get link skills, they help quite a bit!

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
dragonglord

%att lines on your weapon alone will boost your range by a ton. Like you said, wait for miracle time and get your weapons potential to a nice %att and you're lookingn at a massive gain. I'm pretty sure at the point you're at in funding there isn't a "cost effective" way, if you know what I mean. It's just a lot of cubing or buying better gear. It's more of HOW you spend your money that will make it cost effective. I've quit for a while now but I heard some nice things about the cubes from the reward shop, maybe they're luckier? ;D lol but yeah priority is potential f any item that can get %att and whatnot. Also during miracle time if you have the cube, upgrade r those 6% epics

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
Cincinna

Definitely cube the bpot on your sword and get and cube bpot on your emblem for an easy bit of % att~

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited
Rachelll

Pack on as much %TD as you can--it won't increase your damage too much but it would definitely satisfy your needs

Reply March 2, 2015 - edited