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@solkool: Well, as a company, of course you are going to cater to your most paying customers. People craving to be OP and Henny hoes. At least in Reboot, those that want to be OP will be only doing it for the sake of self. With Smart loot and trading disabled, the only thing there would be the mesos bags. "Oh no, <insert IGN here> was able to get a bunch of money to do <insert boss here> before me! What ever will I do?!" Like, really. People whining about people having advantages are in some weird safe space when there has always been people that have had an advantage. Whether it be someone spending HOURS of time grinding to hit 200 first or spending money to solo CRA bosses, there will ALWAYS be someone better than you.

@neesa: The problem goes far from that the main being inflation, since people pay to be OP they would start getting bored at some point so nexon raises the bar to cater for them and in turn they screw with the rest of the people. So P2W is not such a victimless crime.

@solkool: Jealousy hardly plays a role in it, Bud. We were promised a clean slate, free of P2W, and they give us P2W..

Meso Bags will award the player 24m. http://maplestory.nexon.net/community#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1499936-Discussion-Meso-Sacks-In-Reboot%2Fpage28%26nxid%3D6 Page 28

@solkool: But that same concept can be said in regular servers. It's the haves vs the have-nots. Only difference with Reboot, the haves can only have so much cause it would only be self-accomplishment. You wouldn't see any major return except your e-peen getting stroked.

@lazyfaux: But how does it affect your game experience in any way? maplestory is not PVP so them being OP in reboot world has no impact in what you can do, only thing is you will be jealous of them.

@yunioracosta: That's fair enough, I personally can't wait to not have to spend my hard earned money on getting blooming cubes to progress in the game. Going to be fun

@aclassact: I get that , but its kind of late for this update when people have already spent hundreds of hours trying to achieve certain goals in their own server, this server doesn't entice me at all, maybe i am not part of its target audience.

@yunioracosta: the only problem with your comment is that reboot is free 2 play. Unless your goal is to be the #1 to kill a certain boss guy in reboot then it shouldn't be a problem. Even then a person who spends no nx could reach this fate as well. Did you see the photo of the 20mil earned in 3 minutes?

Reboot is just a way to make you realize that you should stick to your regular server and stop fantasizing about a free 2 play and free to win game that only exists in pokemon gameboy games.

Honestly, what breaks it for me is people who own the markets on the real servers, using their NX and Income from those servers, to buy NX in game with meso, then using the NX to buy Meso Bags in Reboot, thus destroying the concept.

Just sayin'..

@microsoft: Sounds like what league is doing with their skins AND theirs is perm from the start. They're doing quite well. Very well actually. So yeah it could work but Nexon too greedy

@voidwreck: Nexon could have earned $$$ as a company the old fashion way: 90 day NX. So instead of pay2win like it is right now... It would be pay2lookgood

I actually can't understand some of these comments. I log on for this first time in 2 years and nexon has done so many things to change the P2W aspect. I literally made a +20 magic attack +54 int glove PURELY FROM MONSTER DROPS IN 5 MINUTES WITH NO NX. Everyone has been invested in this game for so long, they don't feel it changing but it is

@iamaurian: This may as well be considered the Mileage of the Reboot server.

LOL. The server isn't even up yet. You guys forget, even if ppl still pay dollars for mesos, at least mesos can be acquired in game consistently and for free...you get a free pet and meso drop rate is increased, its literally equivalent to passively earning nx in the real server. Wtf lol, leave it to maplers to twist everything into a craphole

@star909 I know KMS doesn't have meso sacks. So if Nexon Korea didn't think they needed meso sacks why does NA.

@charles0012: Hat off to you, some people need to stop complaining

Petition to remove meso sacks from reboot world https://goo.gl/5dSsR0

Alright guys. Listen up. If somebody wants to copy and paste this onto an entire thread of its own. Please do so as I cannot post another thread at the moment.

Best case scenario, they are 1k each and give an average of 2m mesos just like the regular sacks. that means 2k and a tad bit of luck will get you 1 cube. Now this is even cheaper than regular cubes. BUT! Given Nexon NA doesnt change drop rates, which I honestly CANNOT see them doing. at 160 in Future Period. 20m in less than 3 minutes is achievable from drops. Thats 4 cubes in 3 minutes. Please tell me what the advantage is here?

Worst case scenario, they are somehow different and actually give a decent amount. 50m for 4k is about as bad as I can possibly see being an actual outcome. so in this scenario, 2k with no luck needed, will get you 5 cubes. BUT! Nexon NA changed the drop rates. if Nexon Korea allowed 20m in less than 3 minutes. Nexon NA allowing any less than half of that would be extremely noticable and would ultimately kill the server, along with inevitably killing the game itself. So lets say the drop is halved. 10m in less than three minutes. thats 2 cubes in 3 minutes.

So lets compare here

Best case scenario- 3 minutes=8$
WOrst case scenario- 3 minutes=3$ give or take

Somebody would have to pay a dollar a minute to keep up with a level 160 training, thats the worst case scenario.
Now If you really want a worse worse case scenario. meaning I see no possibilty of this happening but. Lets go there.
Drop rate is no 1/4, so 5m ever 3 minutes. and a sack gives a whopping 20m per 1k.
12 minutes=1 dollar
5$ an hour to keep up with a normal player.
30$ seems to be an average nx purchase. He gets 6 hours worth of mesos.
Now this...is game changing. But this is given that they change the drop rate to 1/4th of what it used to be.
1k Mesos sacks consistantly give more than a 4k mesos sack does now. AND...
It still isn't THAT bad.. BAD but given the circumstances that must occur for this. I'll take the odds and calm down.
You all feel better now?

@assasin474: Like you said, in regular Maplestory servers, you can still achieve damage cap without NX, however the large majority DON'T do that because of how much easier it is to get ahead, just by spending some money.

One of the large appeals of this new server was so that everyone could start off new, with no advantages other than knowledge. It would be exciting to see the first Magnus kill, first Hard Magnus, CRA kills, etc in the server.
With this pay to get ahead aspect, Reboot is not much different from regular servers.

Nexon America have basically turned Reboot into a plain old Maplestory, this time with no trading or scrolling.

Am I one of the only people who don't see the problem with meso bags? Sure someone is getting a slight advantage but woop de doo. It isn't like they can use this advantage to sell weapons? If anyone played when nexon released the first meso bags they will realise that these bags give a stupidly little amount of meso. The most I ever got out of one of those bags was 3mil. Some people need to take a chill pill and stop complaining.

who cares though really, as long as you can still get by without spending cash why does it matter if some people pay their way ahead? it's just convenience, is it wrong for someone to pay to take a cab just because they don't mind spending a little to get where they need to go?

get over it, it's still going to be non p2w because you can still reach your end game goal without spending money. regular maple is like that too people just don't want to admit it lol.

@fradddd: I know. Reboot World won't make players entirely equal. There will obviously be people who will do higher damage, and those people are gonna be the ones who will buy NX to purchase mesos. It's just like how in regular Maple we have to buy NX to purchase cubes. I was gonna switch over, but I guess I'll be staying in regular Maple. GG, well played Nexon.

@kevinho00
@fradddd

People won't be able to beat up the hardest bosses such as CRA and Magnus right away... well that was the intention.

With mesos able to be purchased (as long as it's more efficient than grinding), people will be able to cube to solo those bosses, then take people on runs and distribute the drops.

Yes, this makes it easy, but it also sets the average joe's mindset to again be reliant on the people that exchange NX for damage. People could even go so low as to charge real money for said runs, which of course is illegitimate.

The point of Reboot was a clean slate with everyone on equal terms in KMS; Nexon Cash was not to influence others.

Who cares if they can kill monsters faster than you? It's not like they can create a market out of it unless they sell their accounts.

@fradddd: I dont think KMS has meso sacks

and it's not like you guys can trade or use mesos to level. Like if people want to waste away their money on self accomplishment in a game rather than working hard because that was the original intended way and nexon found a loophole, well I cant really say much about that other than you should protest against it in a semi orderly manner and show evidence why this would be bad for the server. As like you all, well other than the fact that I wont be touching reboot, I think this is a bad move on nexon's part and a bit unfair.

It affects the rest of us because the whole point of the reboot server and the audience it was looking to attract were those who are sick of p2w and wanted a server entirely based on efforts. As nexon stated it was supposed to be like oldschool maple where you have to grind for your items and money. Back in ACTUAL old maple you couldn't pay your way ahead even if you wanted to. The meso sack thing ruins the whole point of the server and everything it was supposed to stand for.

Jesus, Nexon Na ruins another decent idea.

@voidwreck they didn't need to put in Meso Sacks in KMS I don't think. And over there Reboot is like the 3rd most popular server, so not everyone jumped over.

But really, why does this affect those of us who aren't gonna buy meso sacks? So what, some people will have more damage...

hmm the only reason I see this not being useful is that people usually don't hack to become popular. They normally hack for personal(real life) gain, however, I do think these should be removed.

Well, they had to incorporate some way to entice people to buy NX even in Reboot World. Nexon is a company, so think of it from their perspective. If they made Reboot World completely "non-P2W" then it's obvious that most people would jump ship to Reboot World and not even go back to regular Maple. As a result, less people would be buying NX. As a business strategy, I understand why they implemented this. But since we have to buy NX to buy meso sacks, there isn't really too much of a difference between Reboot World and regular Maple. GG I guess.

wacth hackers rule reboot real fast

I was pretty disappointed as well... hopefully what they mean is that you can buy it with meso to give you meso lmao

"We did not specifically say you needed to grind in-game. We also meant you had to grind in the office real life for cash so you can buy meso bags."

- Nexon NA Team