Dark Impale Speed
I've seen videos of dark impale being used and it seems like a really fast attack, but does it get faster as your weapon speed gets faster? or does it have a set delay for all speeds? cause the only reason before that dark impale would beat our current crusher was its insane speed (assuming everybody had a slow or medium spear/polearm) but now with PSBs out, crusher has a delay of only 560ms which seems to be the same as dark impale when used with a hellslayer.
If the speed doesn't change with a faster polearm (PSB), then our current crusher is better at 170 x 4 = 680 while impale is 135 x 5 = 675 -__-
July 2, 2011
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i want the skill to be slowed down a little because it's alot like battlemage skill with that speed
@darkspawn980: well we still have droar and i think we deserve an actual dark skill for once
Guys, guys, guys. Buster isn't 185x4. It's 185x3 = 555.
@yodelman:
592 vs 567 actually, but yea, i completely follow.
i mean, impale is in no way a bad skill, i just don't want to lose the reason i became a Dark knight in the first place, dragons ;_;
@djp2313 : Faster (2): 630ms
Faster (3): 690ms
Fast (4): 730ms
Fast (5): 790ms
Normal (6): 840ms
Slow (7): 890ms
Slow (8): 940ms
Slower (9): 1000ms
would you mind sharing where you got this as i am trying to find this data for other skills and have not been able to.
[quote=darkspawn980]because buster with a polearm is almost impale speed, and if it was buffed to 185% x4 (it becomes only x3) it woud beat impale on 3-[/quote]
i still don't think it would beat impale cause of the 20% def ignore.
buster: 185 x 4 = 740.
impale 135 x 5 = 675.
given random lhc monster with 20% pdr, ignoring 20% of that would mean ignoring 4% of the pdr, giving impale 4% damage boost.
675 x 1.04 = 702%.
with a psb, buster has 750ms delay and impale has 690ms. in 30 seconds, buster has 40 hits and impale has 44. 40 x 740% = 29,600% and 44 x 702% = 30,888%, so impale still does win by a little bit in 1-3.
[quote=wenbodou]@CorsairKen: i just think it's silly because the only reason it's anywhere near as fast is because the polearm isn't supposed to be crushering that fast right?
unless i'm missing something lol[/quote]
Buster with a polearm skips a few frames, and is around 15% faster than Buster with a spear IIRC.
[quote=CorsairKen]How is it silly? The stab/slash crap is removed but pole arm buster's animation looks like it stabs 2 times instead of 3[/quote]
it's silly because
[quote=wenbodou]why's it matter when dark impale hits 6 or something, ignores some pdr and will probably be like 1.5 times faster than slow as slug crusher <_<[/quote]
because buster with a polearm is almost impale speed, and if it was buffed to 185% x4 (it becomes only x3) it woud beat impale on 3-
Wooo, the 26 BaM beats the 103 DK.
All wrong! When dark impale gets released, buster(or crusher) is buffed from 170% to 185% BUT the added extra hit the berserk gives is removed so it's
135x5 for impale 675%
And
185x3 for buster 555%
[quote=iVege]It doesn't matter if the speed changes or not. A fastest speed impale is only equivalent to 679% damage.[/quote]
and you got this from...
[quote=yodelman]
If the speed doesn't change with a faster polearm (PSB), then our current crusher is better at 170 x 4 = 680 while impale is 135 x 5 = 675 -__-[/quote]
It doesn't matter if the speed changes or not. A fastest speed impale is only equivalent to 679% damage.
[quote=Hiraku]If there was a main attacking skill which was a fixed speed regardless of any weapon equipped, we'd all be using an Alchupiz.[/quote]
diesra*
If there was a main attacking skill which was a fixed speed regardless of any weapon equipped, we'd all be using an Alchupiz.
it's just a battlemage skill colored by a 5year old
[quote=djp2313]Faster (2): 630ms
Faster (3): 690ms
Fast (4): 730ms
Fast (5): 790ms
Normal (6): 840ms
Slow (7): 890ms
Slow (8): 940ms
Slower (9): 1000ms
Give or take.
So no, not fixed speed[/quote]
so it's gonna be slower than crusher...? or am i wrong about crusher's fast 3 being 560 ms? can you link me to where you found that please