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Dragon Strike vs Bucc Blast?

What's the purpose of dragon strike if bucc blast is statically stronger? I understand dragon strike if you're hunting weaker enemies because the animation is slightly faster but other than that does it serve any other purpose?

May 2, 2015

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VlogTriX

What makes you a buccaneer? Dragon strike is purely a heritage move, it is to remind us of the glory days of stringing i-frames together. Dragon strike to demolition combos. Ode to those days, when we were untouchable, literally. We were the brutes of the sea, and did not sling energy around. We anchored opponents in and unleashed the fury of our punches. This is why it exists, and nothing more. It is not outdated, the game is simply updated. Let your dragon's roar and let them soar, pummel them from below and give the enemies more, it is without bore that we will ram them through the door, thus releasing the unsightly gore and taking the damage to the core. Cheers to the sky and the floor, but do not forget our lore that you're a pirate-brawling, scum-loving, barrel-hiding sea whore.

Reply June 2, 2015
Belzier

[quote=4kyosuke4]@Belzier: Gah! I need to work on getting those! Teach me your ways! Lol jk I know how to get them xD[/quote]

It's a long road for those that aren't Super-Mega-Ultimate Adventurers. I did it back in the day when I was starting out in Windia, and we could make the level 50 UA characters. I'm glad I did it.

Reply May 4, 2015
4kyosuke4

@Belzier: Gah! I need to work on getting those! Teach me your ways! Lol jk I know how to get them xD

Reply May 4, 2015
Tricks122

@XAznNinja I suppose that works well while Stimulating Conversion(Or whatever it's called) is down. I guess I don't do many bosses where that situation crops up, particularly when Octopunch can be used as a substitute in most cases, which kind of renders Dragon Strike obsolete minus a few niche situations(Which in comparison to our moves and their history... tends to be a rarer situation). I guess it just hasn't been a frequent enough issue for me to even bother thinking about it.

Reply May 4, 2015
XAznNinja

@Tricks122 I guess I didn't specify but I meant for bossing situations where you can't 1 hit KO. Obviously 1 hit KOing on regular mobs is fine. But during a prolonged boss battle, the time it takes to jump cast our uncharged laser once is roughly the same amount of time needed to cast Dragon Strike twice. The damage is fairly similar (laser dealing a bit more damage) but with Dragon Strike you get charged up much much faster.

Reply May 4, 2015
Tricks122

@XAznNinja Depends on if you one shot with both skills. Stance shouldn't be that big of a deal(Especially once we get the 100% Stance from HP Boost update), but if you're not one-shotting with Dragon Strike and you are with an uncharged Buccaneer Blast it's much better to use a jump-cast Buccaneer Blast. There's no sense in taking two hits to kill something just to get an attack boost and Stance, and if you're against a boss unless there's some risk of being knocked back rather far, I don't think Dragon Strike is better damage; I suppose you'd have to factor in the more rapid charge, which would make it a bit more effective at places such as Pink Bean Statues or an area where instant death happens from certain moves(Ideally in Gollux you'd be able to 'dance' around while Octopunching, as a Buccaneer has shown in a Hell Gollux video, so long as he's used a certain move).

I suppose Dragon Strike is better for a bossing situation due to its slower cast time, but that assumes you can't go in and Octopunch for some reason; in mobbing situations it's a lot more clear cut if you one shot with both. Still, it's really not the best skill since Buccaneer Blast is somewhat more versatile with being able to be air cast after jumping off of ropes or to tag slightly distant platforms while going off ledges.

Reply May 4, 2015
XAznNinja

@Tricks122 Personally I don't think jump casting uncharged laser is good at all. I'd much rather have my energy recharged ASAP with Dragon Strike or Sharkwave if you have it. After all we do gain 100% stance and more damage when fully charged.

Reply May 4, 2015
Belzier

[quote=4kyosuke4]
When fighting gollux and the minions get too close but gollux is about to attack again and you need to move quickly but not too far from the center
Great for jump attacking and being able to move right after you land
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I use my Super-Mega-Ultra-Ultimate-Charged-Lightning Sharks for that. 8D

Reply May 4, 2015
4kyosuke4

I like using it for charging up, it hits a lot faster and has decent range. It also hits for higher damage per line so it scares people off sometimes =D They're all like "whoa this dude's hitting 50mil! Let's get out of here!" When really I don't normally. Dragon strike is just one of those skills you choose to use if the situation is right.

One hit mobs quickly
Charge energy
When fighting gollux and the minions get too close but gollux is about to attack again and you need to move quickly but not too far from the center
Great for jump attacking and being able to move right after you land

Of course mr. laser is much better in terms of actual damage and range when charged, but it's nice to have an old skill still be around sometimes. P.S. somersault kick is sooo nice (invincibility frames)

Reply May 3, 2015
Tricks122

@Belzier You can jump and use Buccaneer Blast for those situations(Possibly not Gollux), so it's not really hugely useful. The main aspect is that the hit-box for connecting tends to be slightly higher than that of Buccaneer Blast, hence why it hits on the statues(Since their hit-box doesn't seem to be ground level, but instead slightly on their pedestal; I imagine projectiles will tilt up slightly to reflect that).

@zombitbeandy No idea. Buccaneers have less useless skills than other jobs for the most part, I'm just disappointed that Stun Mastery doesn't have a boss effect, which would make it less bad. But I mean, in comparison to other classes... They tend to obsolete more moves than we do, since several of ours carry on in utility in comparison to many more standard jobs.

If by the Spiral Assault update you mean when we could use it midair, I believe Nexon scrapped that idea before it hit the KMS public servers. Frankly, I'm glad because the idea is conceptually dumb(And turns us into jump-attackers which I can't stand), but also sad because it was one of the few significant boosts we'd get.

Reply May 3, 2015 - edited
Belzier

Dragon Strike has an absurd (good) range sometimes for certain bosses for reasons I'm not sure of; being able to hit Gollux or the PB statues when uncharged, in order to charge can be a big deal if you don't cap.

It's just another one of those 'niche' situations bucc skills have a use for. Blast is better in almost all situations where DPS is the main requirement.

Reply May 3, 2015 - edited
zomgitbeandy

[quote=Tricks122]Dragon Strike is only useful in situations where you hunt weaker enemies or you don't manage to one shot whatever you're hunting and a Dragon Strike will deal enough damage to it after a Buccaneer Blast. I also find Dragon Strike useful for Commerci when uncharged, since I don't one shot and it helps charge energy to keep Power Unity going(Generally during the infinite spawn segments, since I don't lose time by clearing less quickly that way).

In general though, it's a completely useless skill and you shouldn't be using it in the vast majority of circumstances, since the revamps we've received made Buccaneer Blast the superior skill in virtually every way, minus animation time.[/quote]

Yeah that's what I'm afraid of, buccaneers have so much useless skills like dragon strike and stun mastery >___>.

Do you have any idea when we're getting that spiral assault update?

Reply May 3, 2015 - edited
Tricks122

Dragon Strike is only useful in situations where you hunt weaker enemies or you don't manage to one shot whatever you're hunting and a Dragon Strike will deal enough damage to it after a Buccaneer Blast. I also find Dragon Strike useful for Commerci when uncharged, since I don't one shot and it helps charge energy to keep Power Unity going(Generally during the infinite spawn segments, since I don't lose time by clearing less quickly that way).

In general though, it's a completely useless skill and you shouldn't be using it in the vast majority of circumstances, since the revamps we've received made Buccaneer Blast the superior skill in virtually every way, minus animation time.

Reply May 3, 2015 - edited
Raginroxas

It has no other purpose. The revamp made certain bucc skills useless. Before you could only use bucc blast when fully charged, now you can use it anytime you want. Dragon strike is pretty much useless.

Reply May 3, 2015 - edited