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Four dead, eleven injured in Dallas protest 'shooting'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/jul/07/dallas-protest-police-shooting-live
Your thoughts?

July 8, 2016

5 Comments • Newest first

Wanton

a bad seed that took the beliefs of the black lives matter movement the wrong way.

Reply July 9, 2016
Alienstock

@readers: You're completely right, don't be ashamed of yourself. We need more people like you.
As for the rest, the United States needs to work on their morality... Some pieces of the puzzles aren't at the right places...

Reply July 9, 2016
Readers

Long essay forecoming, one in which you may feel free to disagree with me on. I may be generalizing a bit too much here - but I feel this is the only way I can best convey what I think is happening right now.

I foresee this pattern rising when it comes to American affairs in general. I don't consider these two scenarios to be the same obviously, but I find there are interesting parallels between the two.

Put yourself in the shoes of a typical young Muslim. Everything you hear in the news are incidents [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike]invoked by the United States[/url] and by other Muslims themselves in the name of Islamic extremism whereby many of the innocent are unfortunately caught in the blast. Some of these innocents include those who you may know - family members, friends, other fellow Muslims in general, etc. Now, you have many other Muslims joining in the fight - people whom you may know as well. With so much going on, this will only serve to compel you to join in the fight. You may feel you have nothing to lose by doing so and you're going to feel the need to place blame on something - and what better way to relay that blame than to attack the very same countries that you feel have done you wrong, especially if you are a Westerner yourself? Now, innocent civilians in the West are killed in the name of terrorism - provoking fear and causing retaliation or reaction against Muslims in the name of hatred and discrimination while more tragedies continue on in the very same country where your roots lie. Hence, a never-ending cycle occurs and we are back at the beginning again.

Now put yourself in the shoes of a typical young black person. Everything you hear in the news are incidents invoked by the police in the United States and by others (a.k.a. the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case, other black-on-black crime which is often less emphasized) in the name of racism. Some of these people (or victims, from the perspective of this person) involved in such incidents may include those who you may know - family members, friends, etc. Now, you have other people joining in the fight in the name of such movements like Black Lives Matter - people whom you may know as well. With so much going on, this will only serve to compel you to join in the fight. You may feel you have nothing to lose by doing so and you're going to feel the need to place blame on something - and what better way to relay that blame than to attack the very same institutions that you feel have done you wrong (such as the police, because there surely is no way other brethren are involved in this as well). Now, police officers in the West are killed - provoking more fear and causing further retaliation or reaction against the black community in the name of hatred and discrimination while more tragedies (such as those that I've mentioned) within those communities continue on. A never-ending cycle occurs and we are back at the beginning again.

One thing I should like to point out also is the increasing militarization of the police (much like the military itself and their role in the Middle East) - with the increasing emphasis on drug cartels and the War on Drugs, you'll often hear about incidents involving SWAT teams doing drug busts in such neighborhoods. Mistakes happen - the wrong people get arrested, sometimes the wrong people get shot too - which only further adds to the scenario I just described (regarding being in the perspective of someone who may be a witness to these events).

When I mention these two cases, I don't speak in terms of all Muslims nor all blacks in that they will end up in this same scenario. Nor do I speak in terms of any one particular person, although the scenarios I've just described may apply to certain individuals and may possibly describe why they do what they do (or certain parts of these scenarios may describe different individuals each respectively to act the way they do when it comes to these issues). Rather I'm only trying to put it as best as I can what I feel an average person in such scenarios may react when it comes to these situations. I will not be surprised at all if this is not the last time such a situation occurs much like the events that unfolded in Dallas.

I will say that because I think both cases are a never-ending cycle, a cesspool of the continuing hatred and violence that has been going on for the past many years - that I don't foresee any kind of end to this. A solution to this would be hard or maybe even impossible... I don't know what that is. But maybe by pinpointing what the problem really is, we can start from there.

tl;dr version: Read my god damn piece. Any tl;dr version I give will possibly confound and distort what I am trying to say - you're better off reading the long version.

Edit: Before someone gets mad at me - note that I am not equating anyone to anything. I am not equating Muslims to blacks, I am not equating the BLM movement to ISIS or other terrorist organizations... No. I am only listing parallels and other observations that I've heard and read about regarding the many incidents that have happened in both camps over the years. I just want to discuss how interesting it is to see that there is this never-ending pattern developing between these two cases, one involving the Muslim community and one involving the black community.

Reply July 9, 2016 - edited
mdisback

So many bad things have been happening in America lately

Reply July 8, 2016 - edited