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Proof that Nexon takes ideas?

During Science today, I saw some constellations in the book named Aquila and Cygnus. Copy?

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquila_%28constellation%29]Aquila's Constellation.[/url]

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygnus_%28constellation%29]Cygnus's Constellation.[/url]

And for the people who don't know what a constellation is (Doubt anybody doesn't know what they are) :

Definition From [url=http://www.dictionary.com]Dictionary.reference.[/url]

Astronomy .
a.
any of various groups of stars to which definite names have been given, as Ursa Major, Ursa Minor, Boötes, Cancer, Orion.
b.
the section of the heavens occupied by such a group.

September 21, 2010

43 Comments • Newest first

AmyrIin

[quote=Telatsu]See everything you're reading now?

It's sort of in Wheel of Time, but without the dragon/elf/dwarf bits.
Which is pretty much one of the few original things he did (in terms of how he implemented them), and he had SO much he can do with it and the-
Sigh, you'll understand.

I'd want to give you a synopsis, but I know it will ruin the thread and be stupid long. Lmao.

There is a giant war in Wheel of Time, that isn't nearly as disappointing as the one you're about to read.
It also spans like 8 books and is super epic. Like. Super. Epic.[/quote]

Yup. Complete Genius.

Reply September 23, 2010
WorkOfArt

@Shige: er, never mind me, i quited ffxii at like, stillshrine of miriam until 6 months ago, where i resumed and finished the game, got ffxiii (im a bit late at getting games ), played ffxiii, got god of war 3 almost IMMEDIATELY after finishing, played through that, and then got my ps2 rights taken away from me by my parents.

So, I never hunted the bigshot monsters yet, I just saw Yiazmat and it reminded me of Tiamat so

Reply September 22, 2010
WebSurfer09

[quote=JustUseTape]It is called [b]inspiration[/b] for gods sake. A tribute, if you want it put like that.[/quote]

this man speaks the truth.
Have you never written a story or anything, at least for English class? When you make a character, guess what? You just based him/her off of somebody, unconsiously. Coincidence? I THINK NOT

Reply September 22, 2010
aAznGuy

[quote=taotapp]You've got it all wrong, bro. The constellations borrowed ideas from maple story.[/quote]

This ain't Soviet Russia, it's AMERICA.

Reply September 22, 2010
xlGrimBecky

[quote=JustUseTape]It is called [b]inspiration[/b] for gods sake. A tribute, if you want it put like that.[/quote]
What he said LOL. They just get ideas from it and make something similar to symbolise it.

Reply September 22, 2010
RazorNion

If you looked at the start of Combo Attack, one of the blue words says Jehova I think.

Reply September 22, 2010
dontran18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krn8-YXsJUY
All there is to say.

Reply September 22, 2010
iTardz

I don't suppose Megaman Starforce will be sued by stars for "stealing"
several constellations.

Reply September 22, 2010
WorkOfArt

[quote=Hyndrays]Well Telatsu, Eragon was and IS and amazing book in my opinion. I loved Lord of the Rings, Granted i could never finish that series. Who takes 4 movies to destroy a ring >:L? plus its names were confusing. But in Eragon, It doesnt have confusing spots as much as LoTR because they actually gave a storyline, long or brief, about each character.

The movie Eragon sucked tho .

How in the world do you cut out a 4(?) day trip across i desert that covers half the continent. HOW?

Also, At WorkofArt: Cactuars came from Final Fantasy
Moogles came from .hack[/quote]

Moogles: appeared in FFIII, year 1990.
.//hack: Started in 2002.

12 year difference there o.o'

Reply September 22, 2010
kevinhbk

[quote=neverfo1]dont be surprised maplestory is notorious for ripping off references to things without properly citing them...[/quote]

So does other games.

Reply September 22, 2010
DarkQuill

You've only now just noticed that?

How about the fact that almost every MWLB member is named after a plant/flower?

Reply September 22, 2010
WorkOfArt

[quote=Shige]You forgot Yiazmat... that was 100% original.... and all of the weapons are original (and of course by weapon i mean ruby weapon, sapphire weapon, omega weapon, etc)

oh, and @Hyndrays epic fail.... she was saying that moogles and cactaurs are original... which they both are... and if you think moogles are from .hack, you fail, seeing as moogles first appeared in final fantasy before .hack even existed[/quote]

Names could be original, and designs are definitely quite original, but everything is based off something; Yiazmat looks like Tiamat, which is a Babylonian Monster. Evans are an original name and somewhat original design, but its loosely based off of Eragon, despite the different name. But yes, FF has a lot of original weapons, and so does MapleStory; I don't think we'll be finding things like a Fairfrozen or Poostick anywhere o.o'

Reply September 22, 2010
Glowy

This isn't related to the screen shots, but I find a lot of the hair styles they use in maple are based off a certain Anime character's hair. Example: Rukia Hair is Kerning Exp hair in maple, so they don't have amazing creativity with the hair they make in maple either so ehh..

Reply September 21, 2010
MapleFacez

Wow men u think most of us dot know what costelations are? Why u think we 1st graders? Wow..

Reply September 21, 2010
Satoshi1234

[quote=Chanor]I call BS.
Nexon said something about the alien event being really hard to program, or something like that. And all they did was copy from Taiwan MS, they didn't make anything.
Mechanic = Ripoff of the engineer class from team fortress 2, and also the robot armor from megaman X.
FMA/Naruto suits in NX.
Doom 1 weapon 5 shooting sound is the dark sight sounds
A lot more doom sounds were stolen for maplestory (dying gollem) though I think ID software gave them away for common use.

Even Pink bean is stolen. Someone summons a pink stupid powerful creature on accident. Majin buu was summoned on accident because gohan was angry and goku vs vegeta.[/quote]

-The alien part is, sadly, true, but:
-Riding a robot isn't something that is "copied" from something else. A lot of different things have that, including Avatar.
-That isn't copied when they have the original names on it. They said "Alchemist" (Full Metal Alchemist) and "Fire Shadow" (which translates directly into Hokage).
-... Not so sure about this; i've never heard of this "Doom 1" before.
-That makes no sense.
Pink Bean: An evil man wanted to summon the Black Magician, but he made a booboo and accidentally summoned a jellybean from another dimension instead.
Gohan: Some people were fighting and someone accidentally summoned him.

So... yeah. XD

Reply September 21, 2010
crazypaulkim

I think they took ideas from the tv series Avatar The Last Air Bender

Reply September 21, 2010
3moRaccoon

Oh wow... O_o lol its not taking though..

Did you know almost everything in Maplestory is based off of Latin? For example, Orbis is based off of "Orbus" which in Latin means City.

Reply September 21, 2010
Satoshi1234

how is that copying? That's like saying that nexon copied the bible's idea of Adam and Eve because humans are used...

Reply September 21, 2010
aethynyc

I don't know why you're so surprised... Many games are heavily influenced by mythology and other stuff.
Nothing's really original =/

Reply September 21, 2010
kaede6

Well there's the Blue Screamer from Final Fantasy...

Reply September 21, 2010
Telatsu

[quote=Hyndrays]What's it about?
I tend only to like Fantasy. Not star wars fantasy unfortunatley. Old timey fantasy. Knights, Dragons, Mages, That sort of thing.

Im excited to get to the giant war in the Eragon series
Im reading Eldest right now.
Apparently he offended the dwarves with his clan-ness. :o[/quote]

See everything you're reading now?

It's sort of in Wheel of Time, but without the dragon/elf/dwarf bits.
Which is pretty much one of the few original things he did (in terms of how he implemented them), and he had SO much he can do with it and the-
Sigh, you'll understand.

I'd want to give you a synopsis, but I know it will ruin the thread and be stupid long. Lmao.

There is a giant war in Wheel of Time, that isn't nearly as disappointing as the one you're about to read.
It also spans like 8 books and is super epic. Like. Super. Epic.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
RandomGenius

hey you copied your words from the dictionary!
i believe i have enough information for a lawsuitttttttttttttttt

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
iTardz

Nexon never said cygnus and such was their ideas.
therefore they didnt steal it

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Telatsu

[quote=Hyndrays]Well Telatsu, Eragon was and IS and amazing book in my opinion. I loved Lord of the Rings, Granted i could never finish that series. Who takes 4 movies to destroy a ring >:L? plus its names were confusing. But in Eragon, It doesnt have confusing spots as much as LoTR because they actually gave a storyline, long or brief, about each character.

The movie Eragon sucked tho .

How in the world do you cut out a 4(?) day trip across i desert that covers half the continent. HOW?

Also, At WorkofArt: Cactuars came from Final Fantasy
Moogles came from .hack[/quote]

Fun Fact: Being the outstanding author he is, he stopped writing his books because he wanted to cash in on everyone being forced to watch his movie.
Also, he was rejected by multiple publishers. Excluding his parents, who are his publishers. Kekekekeke.

Now don't get me wrong, writing "Eragon" at age 15/16 is a feat unto itself. I won't deny that, but you think in the decade that passed since then, his writing style would improve. Because, it was good. For a 15 year old. Unfortunately, it hasn't. His character development is shoddy, his plot is boring and repetitive. Furthermore, it will look like he's going in the right direction, then he haphazardly destroys his own character models and reverts them back to boring clay models that jerk around when he sets paper to pen. Also, the backgrounds are extremely generic and yet another yawn fest. I want the last book to be out so I can completely forget about the series once I've seen how it's ended. Maybe he can redeem himself in the last one. Maybe.

Also, a lot of it was taken from "The Wheel of Time" series by Robert Jordan. I seriously implore you to read the series, making note of comparisons of course, but also because it's a far better series. Not my favorite, but far better. I wouldn't steer you wrong.

Oh lord...the plot...the portrayed scenery....the character development...the back stori- Oh my, look at me. I'm seriously off topic.

OT: Yes, Nexon used mythology, modern references, so on, etc, beat a dead horse.

Get over it, unless of course you have a game that is so completely original it has never been seen by Mankind.
I suppose Aliens could have seen it, though. They don't count. Bunch of jerks.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
CrownedSorrow

Omg Nexon put monsters in the game named "Pigs". Pigs are real life animals. Nexon copied mother nature.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Pookiemookie

Everyone knows what a constellation is.

A lot, and I mean a lot, of things have names of constellations. There's a bunch of cash shop items that are the heads of the Zodiac signs. Its called inspiration.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
tiggerthepoo

Read the book "How to read literature like a professor."

Specifically chapter 2. Then come complaining about how Nexon "takes" ideas.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Darksword

[quote=iguy]Do you even know what pink bean is? Pink Bean wasn't summoned by accident, he's the Black Mage's pet, one of the Black Mage's disciples released it and didn't know of it's power.[/quote]

I can back up Pink Bean.

Quoted by StrategyWiki : "The boss of the Time Temple. Pink Bean is a being from another world who was accidentally summoned through the Goddess' mirror by an unidentified man known as Kirstun, who was actually trying to bring back the Black Magician."
[url=http://strategywiki.org/wiki/MapleStory/Monsters/Level_131-199]http://strategywiki.org/wiki/MapleStory/Monsters/Level_131-199[/url]

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Telatsu

[quote=Hyndrays]I would like to throw my Eragon viewpoint back out there.

Dusekaar and Jaaledon have valid points. But they copied Eragon
To. The. Letter.

COME ON D:<
This outrages me as a reader and a player.[/quote]

I'd be more outraged if Christopher Paolini was actually a good author.
But I'm pretty outraged that I'm unable to start a series and not finish it, which forces me to finish this atrocious [i]Cycle.[/i]

UGHHHH

Also, since Eragon is basically a terribad mash-up of recent Authors and story lines that are actually good, I have a hard time thinking Nexon did something wrong.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
blahsand724

Sheesh...Big deal, Maple used [i][/i]cygnus[i][/i]. End of the world? No.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
WorkOfArt

You guys see one little similarity and you suddenly call nexon copycats who can't think of anything on their own. Aside from the storyline for Evan, Nexon's development is just like any other game. Look at the most popular RPG series in the world, Final Fantasy. Tell me which monster and/or godlike entity is not based off of a mythological development. Every last monster or entity could relate to a myth. Except Cactuars and moogles. We don't know where the poofaces they got that idea. Then again, Maplestory has smiling slimes and mushrooms.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Nuvaxthrower

Maybe someone performed Inception.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
iguy

[quote=Chanor]I call BS.
Nexon said something about the alien event being really hard to program, or something like that. And all they did was copy from Taiwan MS, they didn't make anything.[/quote]
You call BS, and then you pull crap out of your ass. Smooth.

Oh and, they didn't copy it off of TMS, they took the basic idea, and changed it COMPLETELY.
Moreover, they didn't say they made it.

Oh and also, is TMS not run by Nexon? I've never heard of a company stealing things from itself.

[quote=Canor]Mechanic = Ripoff of the engineer class from team fortress 2, and also the robot armor from megaman X.[/quote]
Robot armor from megaman X = ripoff of the original idea of robot armor.
Yeah.

Besides, did they ever say it's 100% unique?

[quote=Chanor]FMA/Naruto suits in NX.[/quote]
Uh, did they say they created it? Were they slapped with law suits? No. They asked permission from the makers to add that into the game.

[quote=Chanor]Doom 1 weapon 5 shooting sound is the dark sight sounds
A lot more doom sounds were stolen for maplestory (dying gollem) though I think ID software gave them away for common use.[/quote]
I'd like some proof for these.

[quote=Chanor]Even Pink bean is stolen. Someone summons a pink stupid powerful creature on accident. Majin buu was summoned on accident because gohan was angry and goku vs vegeta.[/quote]

Do you even know what pink bean is? Pink Bean wasn't summoned by accident, he's the Black Mage's pet, one of the Black Mage's disciples released it and didn't know of it's power.

He has ZERO relation to majin buu, Which by the way, didn't have 5 statue henchmen.

All in all, you called out BS on my statement that Nexon never stated that everything they made is 100% unique, gave me random and mostly inaccurate assumptions, and never even elaborated on your original statement.

Nexon has NEVER stated that they made 100% of anything without any outside influence.
That means they never lied, and the fact that they haven't been sued yet proves that they had permission, therefore they did not steal either.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Dusekkar

For the love of bloody God, this is getting really tiring.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COPYING AND STEALING. Percy Jackson used Greek Mythology, you don't see people screaming over that.
And about Nexon and writing the codes, they have to RE-WRITE EVERY SINGLE THING put into the game.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Hunter103

[quote=Dijital5s5]Zakum is Actually An [b]Arabic[/b] Word if you didnt know o.o[/quote]

Thats like Zaqum or whatever. Similiar =/= the same

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Darksword

An idea is taken from something, from the mind or from another type of thing in this World. Either way you can't make a game without taking at least 1 idea from nothing and make stuff up, unless the game has no such future.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Nuvaxthrower

Someone is slow.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
AryanKnight

pretty much everything in maplestory is copied from somthing. 25% of the game is copied from WoW

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
kamikaas

would you feel better if they just make up names?

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Dijital5s5

Zakum is Actually An [b]Arabic[/b] Word if you didnt know o.o

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
iguy

Why does it even matter?
Everything ever originated from something else.
At least Nexon isn't lying about it..

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
Benjaminbanh

[quote=taotapp]You've got it all wrong, bro. The constellations borrowed ideas from maple story.[/quote]

LOL. I think a constellation should be older than Maplestory.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited
taotapp

You've got it all wrong, bro. The constellations borrowed ideas from maple story.

Reply September 21, 2010 - edited