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@krazyazn33: ...I already know this. But thanks for elaborating for others as it is a diff way for that other method as well.

@bluebomber24
Actually now if you kill the right hand and stay in a specific spot on the left side the hand won't come nor will you get hit by that abdomen breath. (And it's a double jump up to the safety spot in the 2nd form.)

@NeoBowmaster: No prob. Be sure to have your annotations on too for tips and etc.

@bluebomber24: Just saw your video. And thanks for making it! Means a lot. Now just hope I can solo that hard gollux tmrw.

For anyone who wants to see what he meant, [url=Http://youtube.com/watch?v=1HE13Nu3fNs]Bluebomber24's gollux guide.[/url]

@NeoBowmaster: Oh that yes, he is doing it correctly. But again, because he doesn't have Phoenix he is moving alot more than a BM has too and as a result is more likely to get hit by an attack.

As for making a video....as I stated earlier I don't have MS installed. I have zero interest in MS atm with the exception of trying to see some unfinished business through via Basil (DPS calcs and Armor Break glitches). At best, I'll think about it.

Edit: Okay the video is being made -_- Don't say I never do anything for you guys.

@bluebomber24: I was mainly referring to the phant's movement while using mille and going side to side at the portal on the bottom of the jaw. The turret placement, I understand is too far. Also, if you happen to get any free time, would you mind making a bowmaster video of how to do it. There are none of a bowmaster doing it, so it would be a huge help to anyone in the future who would want to do it.

Edit: Facing away from his jaw? Now I more so understand what you mean, Because when I placed it facing him that close yesterday, I got a few counters.

@NeoBowmaster: [b]NO I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT.[/b] My method is even easier and safer than that.

In that video, placing turret there will get you out of the jaw safety cushion when you have to recast and the arm can kill you if your not careful. My method, you should never move outside the jaw unless you have to leave and recast, die, or finished killing the jaw. As shown on this [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2801874/2#comments_list]page,[/url] and this [url=http://i.imgur.com/Y0Idohk.jpg]image[/url] Turret should be placed ON Gollux's cheek and facing left. Again, you SHOULD NOT see any flying red arrows from Turret if it is placed in the right spot.

And once again, watch where your Phoenix is attacking on the Jaw and simply place Turret on the exact mirror side of Pheonix. The only exception is that, Phoenix can get stuck in the middle (usually via recast), in which you can't mirror. If Phoenix is in the middle of Gollux it will attack whichever side it feels like whenever it feels like and you will have to keep your eyes open a little bit. To minimize this, why when recasting, you either do it in that room area and follow the first part of my guide or you recast on one of Gollux's sides after he attacks. I only recast on Hell Gollux as Phoenix summon time is pretty long to begin with.

[b]Edit:[/b] Okay watched the full video. Where he places the Turret at the 7:00 mark is more or less where I am talking about. However, I usually place the turret closer to Gollux than that and set the turret facing away from gollux as that is one less directional action and smoother setup wise.

@bluebomber24 Do you mean in a manner similar to how [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0kSg_t1HiE]this guy[/url] is doing? I tried hard gollux yesterday using your method and I have to say, it is quite helpful. But it will require practice, and I do believe It should be in a way this phant is doing, just have to add the phoenix into the equation.

[quote=benjaminlu]mm okay thanks.

Anyone know how long it'd take to kill normal gollux if i had like 100k self buffed range and 50% boss as an MM? :O Or 70% boss? (if i use the pot)

[edit] - Agh how do you even avoid the 1hko hands.. i took out right shoulder and abdomen but died 5 times within the span of like a minute by constantly getting 1hko'd by his hands ..[/quote]

You stay in the middle of the Jaw.....if you follow my guide, the Arms can NEVER hit you in those spots. Again, doing Normal Gollux on a BM should become SUPER easy for you.

Edit: Look at how [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKxPWFY3MNk]this person[/url] does the head and note how he switches to the side Gollux is not looking and the hands never hit him. The only differenec for a BM is that you don't have to move as far as he is moving (see my guide) due to Hurricane control, no need to worry about mobs, etc. Once you know all of Golluxes attacks and how to dodge them, he will become a joke to you [b]guaranteed[/b] no matter what [b]class[/b] your playing.

[quote=benjaminlu]mm okay thanks.

Anyone know how long it'd take to kill normal gollux if i had like 100k self buffed range and 50% boss as an MM? :O Or 70% boss? (if i use the pot)

[edit] - Agh how do you even avoid the 1hko hands.. i took out right shoulder and abdomen but died 5 times within the span of like a minute by constantly getting 1hko'd by his hands ..[/quote]

I did Normal Golllux w/ 100k and 60% boss dmg as a MM acouple weekss back, it couldnt had taken more than 7 minutes.
And dodging the hand -> Just got to where his thumb is, thumb doesnt kill you or even hurt you. So you dont have to flash jump out of the way, just walk a little to the right.

[quote=Kaneusta]30% Gollux set
30% from SW/fafnir weapon. (60% in total if you have fafnir wep cause CRA set)
34% from Character Card Set/Link Skills/Character Card (Demon Slayer/Beast tamer link skill, kanna/da char card, Rank S character card sets)
12%/15%/20% from Dojo gloves
And then Potential on Weapon/Secondary + nebulites

That is at LEAST 106% boss damage you can get by getting alll of the above.[/quote]

mm okay thanks.

Anyone know how long it'd take to kill normal gollux if i had like 100k self buffed range and 50% boss as an MM? :O Or 70% boss? (if i use the pot)

[edit] - Agh how do you even avoid the 1hko hands.. i took out right shoulder and abdomen but died 5 times within the span of like a minute by constantly getting 1hko'd by his hands ..

[quote=benjaminlu]How do you guys even get so much Boss Dmg and PDR.. on my BM i have 19%.. i mean okay 30% from gollux, 30% from RA set (working on both) but still. How on earth do you get 100% and more o_o[/quote]

30% Gollux set
30% from SW/fafnir weapon. (60% in total if you have fafnir wep cause CRA set)
34% from Character Card Set/Link Skills/Character Card (Demon Slayer/Beast tamer link skill, kanna/da char card, Rank S character card sets)
12%/15%/20% from Dojo gloves
And then Potential on Weapon/Secondary + nebulites

That is at LEAST 106% boss damage you can get by getting alll of the above.

How do you guys even get so much Boss Dmg and PDR.. on my BM i have 19%.. i mean okay 30% from gollux, 30% from RA set (working on both) but still. How on earth do you get 100% and more o_o

I could kill him when i had a 100k range, 145% boss and 90% PDR. I placed my arrowblaster turret to the left of him, at the same time as i do damage to his jaw i kill the minions who spawn there. After that i just stand in the middle and hurricane him (dodging breath) untill the jaw is dead. Normal mode, btw. I don't think changing class to MM would improve your time. =)

Marksman have it pretty easy, just double jump toward the head when you enter and then place your arrow illusion, then snipe it until it dies, occasionally recasting arrow illusion when it runs out and killing the minions.

@illogikul: I don't have MS installed.

Turret should be on Gollux's Cheek. If its placed correctly you should not see any arrows and the mob gremlins should die before they reach the center. Estimating, its about 1.5-2.5 steps away from the mddle portal/

Edit: http://i.imgur.com/Y0Idohk.jpg

Red: Turret
Black: You
Orange: Phoenix

The pic sums it up more or less...

I don't find fighting gollux that bad as a BM.

For the jaw, I just keep drain arrow locked (since I lag and I'm a baddie and can't dodge the attacks), and just set up turret close to the jaw, but a bit away, so that it can attack monsters that get close to it as well as the jaw. I use hurricane over blaster, since i can move around and dodge where as with blaster I can't do that.

Once I get to the eye, I keep a turret set up on the bottom platform to kill all the mobs that spawn while I use blaster to kill the eyes. (EDIT: forgot to mention, I use blaster at the corner of the middle platform to stay out of range of the 1hko "cry&quot. If blaster expires below, I go down to set it up again.

Once the eye is done, I stay put (at that corner on the second platform) and aim blaster higher to kill the jewel. The "cry" attack doesn't hit me from there. Again, I set up a blaster turret below whenever it expires or is close to expiring.

[quote=benjaminlu]I'm struggling to kill normal gollux on my lv185 BM (crappy range + i just dont know how to fight it) and i was wondering if it would be worth it to change my job to an MM?

Would it be easier to kill Gollux as an MM using snipe with no CD or as a BM with arrow blaster?

If I switch to an MM, i'd give up my 237 atk 9%dex bow and use a 168atk 30%boss dmg 10% pdr clean SW xbow. my secondary weapon wont make a difference since it sucks anyway

So basically i was just wondering if you guys could tell me if it's easier to kill gollux as an MM or as a BM.
Thanks for your help.[/quote]

IMO, its a waste of funds to do the transfer as Gollux for Bowmasters should be relatively easy. This assumes you kill the Abdomen:

[*]When the Bowmaster enters the map they should have Phoenix summoned and Hook Shot towards the head. Usually Phoenix will aggro to the right side of Gollux's head if you do this, but not always. I immediately hook shot towards Gollux's head because I have never died doing this. Contrarily, I have had benny hill moments where I would double jump and as I am landing I would see a hand come up ready to kill me....multiple times

[*]Whatever side Phoenix is aggroed/stuck on, summon Turret on the opposite side of Gollux'es Jaw. Turret should be ON Gollux's jaw not in some space somewhere. The best way I can explain this is where ever you see your phoenix attacking, place Turret the mirror side of that in the same spot. Phoenix occasionally but rarely switches sides, so watch for this so you can switch your Turret to the other side. With Turret and Phoenix on each side the mobs will never reach Gollux. This is the most efficient way to handle the mobs. You should not have to use Arrow Stream at all unless you need to recast Turret or Phoenix. Trust me, as long as they are each on one side of Gollux's head the splash damage of thier attacks will hit the mobs before they get a counter up.

[*]In the middle of Gollux's Head is an invisible portal. Moving Hurricane should be used on the head going from portal edge to portal edge. [b]Always stay on the opposite side Gollux is facing[/b] This is greater DPM than recasting Blaster and will be even larger in the future.

[*] Do not lock in your arrows on the head unless its Blood arrow. If you get hit by the 50% attack its pretty easy to recover as long as you don't get hit again until Blood Arrow replenishes or if you have blood locked you get healed automatically. Heck, if you lock in Drain Arrow, you can simply stand in the center of the head and tank the Breath attack. I don't know why you would do that though as shifting the force of two fingers is not difficult.

[*] If your doing Hell Mode, every now and then when you can, preferably after you throw a Turret down and then switch to the opposite side Gollux's is facing, cast Bind Shot. It has good DPM and if you die by his breath attack, Gollux will recover significantly less hp if Bind Shot debuff is still active.

[*] After the head, you want to summon Turret at the bottom and double jump to the top platform left and stand on the VERY edge then attack the eyes. I usually time to 10-15 seconds, wait for Gollux to attack again, and then jump down to quickly set up turret again before going back up. Unless, you have the DPS to rambo it, letting Turret run its full 30 seconds and jumping down after a good amount of time has passed since Gollux has attacked will increase your chances of dying.

[*] For the Jewel, you do the same as the eyes. I usually just stand in the same spot that I did for the eyes and just make Blaster aim at the jewel. If the count down is an issue I recommend using Blaster+Turret as the mob counter to 5 can be slower than the Jewel Clock.

[*] If you find your self dying alot, [url=http://i.imgur.com/7ScaqDi.png]damage reduction potentials[/url] can occasionally save you. Keep in mind if you follow my guide you should not be dying to begin with unless your fighting on Hell or lack the dpm. AS @Reunite said....you shouldn't be dying on Normal Gollux....

[quote=benjaminlu]haha idk i have a free advancement coin and ive been playing my BM forever. Thought it'd be interesting to change things up a bit and so i was just curious if it would also make killing normal gollux easier if i were to become an MM.

Also what kind of range is even required for normal gollux? BM vs MM? :O W/ 20% and 50% boss dmg, respectively?[/quote]

around 200k range would be able to kill him within an efficient time. That low of boss dmg? I had around 200k range and 70% boss 80% pdr and killed him <10 minutes.
Buy the gollux pots that give you pdr/boss using the blue coins, the only thing is that if you die they wear out.

haha idk i have a free advancement coin and ive been playing my BM forever. Thought it'd be interesting to change things up a bit and so i was just curious if it would also make killing normal gollux easier if i were to become an MM.

Also what kind of range is even required for normal gollux? BM vs MM? :O W/ 20% and 50% boss dmg, respectively?

lolwut you're going to switch classes just to kill normal gollux? Though range plays a role, the main thing about gollux is controlling your character + learning how to read his attacks. If you can't do that now as a BM why would changing to a MM drastically change that?