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Honestly, I think NW is much more newb friendly. Backstep/ Drain/ no mastery book/ and damage passives so only partner and booster are your important buffs. NL at early levels and funding is ok, but NW already has solid damage at level 120+. NL gets way better at higher levels cause their mobbing at SH is significantly better than 1v1'ing each Knight with 5star and hoping your bats hurt the rest....

@CalmVibes:
how much damage you need to 1 shot second drill hall, the best training spot 160+

@prtpeter
Your shadow should finish the mobs u hit, i think its a little bit over 1m around 1.1

[quote=CalmVibes]What do u mean by that?[/quote]

NL showdown does like 4Lines, and NW skills only does 1Line, so NW needs way more range to 1 hit SDH due to the attack only being 1Line. Besides showdown for NL is 4Line + 400% damage or something which is a lot of damage in 4Lines. and im 1M range NW and I dont see myself 1 shotting SDH yet. I think i 2 Shot cuz NW shadow partner is weird.

[quote=Iamshorttt]600k range for NL to 1 shot sdh, 1m for NW to 1 shot[/quote]

What do u mean by that?

600k range for NL to 1 shot sdh, 1m for NW to 1 shot

@CalmVibes: Absolutely! Happy to have helped!

@AntiSenpai: I actually forgot about that... and the fact that you can't use auto buff with shadow partner either... I have just gotten over it/used to it already, it doesn't even seem that long anymore really!

@whiteforce18: thanks this helped alot, but i must admit im still torn

[quote=whiteforce18]Simply put, a NW would be better for you considering it is a new account (I am assuming 0 funds). My reasoning is actually not at all biased hehe. First, there is the fact that bats are GREAT for mobbing, so ignore the fact that people keep saying "oh no, NL has mobbing in all jobs, while NW has NONE." Completely BS, and anyone who has put in the same amount of funding into either a NW or NL would see that you would level up roughly same speed up until about level 120 or so (which is when NL can efficiently use showdown I think?)

Second, NW would need a LOT less money to start off simply cause of no hp pots really required! This cuts down on a major factor, and on top of no hp pots, all you need is a Jr boogie and you are set for life on no pots ever! (unless bossing, then grab a couple pots just in case, but that's the case for every class. Odds are, you wont even need them as much!)

Third, no mastery books required. Sure, the prices might have dropped down from the old 126 or so mil for all your books, but for someone with ZERO spare mesos, it does make a difference!

Fourth, our shadow partner is unhindered by the traditional cap (all 3 of em too!) (at least from what I had heard though.. As you can probably tell, I have yet to reach that funding just yet..)

Finally, passives are amazing due to this class both having a link skill, and also having the passive account buffs (the 30 att and matt for entire world is really helpful!) as well as all the built in passives (yay for less pdr needed! Hehe, I am sitting at 84% easily, and 94% when I have my secondary equipped... Gonna recube it for more damage though hehe)

Now, for NL, they do have some perks that the NW doesn't have:

First, they have the ability to share nx in CS with everyone of their explorers..permanently, not just via event).
Second, they have showdown, which is, quite simply put, freaking amazing. Extra exp AND drop rate? Yes please!
Third, they have a slightly less annoying to predict attack and shadow partner.
Fourth, and I can't stress the importance of this enough, but they have more throwing range than NW does.. It makes a difference in gollux for sure!

Hopefully this helped you in your decision making, and I hope I didn't sound biased in the thought process, I tried to make it relatively even on both sides haha[/quote]

But you're forgetting the one giant turn off for playing a Nw... you can't do Shadow Partner on a rope/ladder...

[quote=nitsua2789]Might I refer you to the 7 other threads just like this where many people have explained multiple times the pros and cons of each?[/quote]

Yo how about u provide a link then homie rather than saying something uselless like this?

For a new account NW would be best becuase of less potions and the cygnus blessing but your second class should be nightlord they are extremely fun unlike NW they are boring AF one of th emany reasons NL is the the master race!

Considering that is a new account, I'd recommend going with NW because you simply dont have to worry about potions nearly as much as you do with a NL on top of all the other reasons why I hate to admit that they're better

@flygon123445: I know about the bounce nerf, and it still is not bad at ALL considering that once you hit something, it can bounce back and hit the mob again, where as NL stars are a one hit and done.

[quote=whiteforce18]Simply put, a NW would be better for you considering it is a new account (I am assuming 0 funds). My reasoning is actually not at all biased hehe. First, there is the fact that bats are GREAT for mobbing, so ignore the fact that people keep saying "oh no, NL has mobbing in all jobs, while NW has NONE." Completely BS, and anyone who has put in the same amount of funding into either a NW or NL would see that you would level up roughly same speed up until about level 120 or so (which is when NL can efficiently use showdown I think?)

Second, NW would need a LOT less money to start off simply cause of no hp pots really required! This cuts down on a major factor, and on top of no hp pots, all you need is a Jr boogie and you are set for life on no pots ever! (unless bossing, then grab a couple pots just in case, but that's the case for every class. Odds are, you wont even need them as much!)

Third, no mastery books required. Sure, the prices might have dropped down from the old 126 or so mil for all your books, but for someone with ZERO spare mesos, it does make a difference!

Fourth, our shadow partner is unhindered by the traditional cap (all 3 of em too!) (at least from what I had heard though.. As you can probably tell, I have yet to reach that funding just yet..)

Finally, passives are amazing due to this class both having a link skill, and also having the passive account buffs (the 30 att and matt for entire world is really helpful!) as well as all the built in passives (yay for less pdr needed! Hehe, I am sitting at 84% easily, and 94% when I have my secondary equipped... Gonna recube it for more damage though hehe)

Now, for NL, they do have some perks that the NW doesn't have:

First, they have the ability to share nx in CS with everyone of their explorers..permanently, not just via event).
Second, they have showdown, which is, quite simply put, freaking amazing. Extra exp AND drop rate? Yes please!
Third, they have a slightly less annoying to predict attack and shadow partner.
Fourth, and I can't stress the importance of this enough, but they have more throwing range than NW does.. It makes a difference in gollux for sure!

Hopefully this helped you in your decision making, and I hope I didn't sound biased in the thought process, I tried to make it relatively even on both sides haha[/quote]

just curious: have you ever made a NW on a brand new acc? the bats deal like 1k,to drakes. i hope you didnt forget the bat bounces nerf, as of star force. less bat bounces. i still say NL is better with 0 funds, brand new acc.

Simply put, a NW would be better for you considering it is a new account (I am assuming 0 funds). My reasoning is actually not at all biased hehe. First, there is the fact that bats are GREAT for mobbing, so ignore the fact that people keep saying "oh no, NL has mobbing in all jobs, while NW has NONE." Completely BS, and anyone who has put in the same amount of funding into either a NW or NL would see that you would level up roughly same speed up until about level 120 or so (which is when NL can efficiently use showdown I think?)

Second, NW would need a LOT less money to start off simply cause of no hp pots really required! This cuts down on a major factor, and on top of no hp pots, all you need is a Jr boogie and you are set for life on no pots ever! (unless bossing, then grab a couple pots just in case, but that's the case for every class. Odds are, you wont even need them as much!)

Third, no mastery books required. Sure, the prices might have dropped down from the old 126 or so mil for all your books, but for someone with ZERO spare mesos, it does make a difference!

Fourth, our shadow partner is unhindered by the traditional cap (all 3 of em too!) (at least from what I had heard though.. As you can probably tell, I have yet to reach that funding just yet..)

Finally, passives are amazing due to this class both having a link skill, and also having the passive account buffs (the 30 att and matt for entire world is really helpful!) as well as all the built in passives (yay for less pdr needed! Hehe, I am sitting at 84% easily, and 94% when I have my secondary equipped... Gonna recube it for more damage though hehe)

Now, for NL, they do have some perks that the NW doesn't have:

First, they have the ability to share nx in CS with everyone of their explorers..permanently, not just via event).
Second, they have showdown, which is, quite simply put, freaking amazing. Extra exp AND drop rate? Yes please!
Third, they have a slightly less annoying to predict attack and shadow partner.
Fourth, and I can't stress the importance of this enough, but they have more throwing range than NW does.. It makes a difference in gollux for sure!

Hopefully this helped you in your decision making, and I hope I didn't sound biased in the thought process, I tried to make it relatively even on both sides haha

In terms of starting fresh, overall a NL would be better. It's got a lot more mobbing skills than NW, which is primarily for bossing. However, if you'd like to hit harder and be a tad bit cooler with all of that darkness on your side and such, definitely go with NW. Mine at level 135 with a measly 35k range was hitting around 400-500k with their 3rd job mobbing skill (forgot what it's called hehe).

Fifth job, Night Lord sounds WAYY better than Night Walker, etc etc, perm NX transfer, lata NWs

Night Lord is fun Night Walker extra star and "shadow partner" is weird and too hard to control.
NL wins.

Well, since this is a new account, making a night walker might be a good idea! Your other characters will benefit from both the Cygnus blessing and the regular blessing! Lots of bonus attack to any other characters you make!

Of course, your next character must be a Night Lord, because they are just that good! <3

Might I refer you to the 7 other threads just like this where many people have explained multiple times the pros and cons of each?

[quote=SlipperySlimes]There should be a stickied thread regarding this topic or something.. Every single day someone makes this thread.[/quote]

not as much as someone wanting to make a new class that is over powered, easy to fund, bosses well and trains well

There should be a stickied thread regarding this topic or something.. Every single day someone makes this thread.

why are people saying NW > nl? he already said itll be a new account. night lord > night walker for unfunded people. you have mobbing skills all 4 jobs. night walker only has one,and its 3rd job till 250.

@LeoTM: thanks for helping me choose my IGN

if you have alot of mesos and you can take on all bosses as a nl then uoure better off with nl thanks to showdown drop bonus
if not, nw hits harder and therfor better choise