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top warriors fer bossing?

Hey, so i used to play as a warrior class, but quit, and was playing thief recently. I figured i may as well get back onto warrior, since i have so much of the harder to come by gear for warrior, but im undecided as to what to play?

absolutely not playing hero/paladin/drk

Just wondering what your opinions on what the order of bossing efficiency the warriors are, be it DPS, or actual ease of bossing.

any opinions/facts appreciated!

PS: Im talking like fairly funded, say 800k clean ish range?

main advantage is i have 1 350 atk 2h sword, which makes kaiser tempting, but is it really all that great? I keep hearing they suck before capping, and i sure as hell will not be!

December 29, 2014

18 Comments • Newest first

unlucky13

Go with demon slayer. I don't even have to give you the benefits since the others above me have.

Reply January 9, 2015
weifeng

[quote=daringwaffle]@fradddd: its not ALL about bossing. I still wanna have fun. you can really only spend a short time bossing each day anyways.
If i didnt have to scroll my own zero weapon, itd be really tempting as well, but spending >100k nx for +7atk scrolled? thats insane[/quote]

i am a zero, and i 15% traced my weapon
it took me 10 innocence scrolls, 60 clean slate, 2 shield scroll from maple reward, and i am at 15% +8, definitely take me wayyyyyy less than 100k nx, and its +9 scrolled
currently surveying to get that cash shop hammer cuz somehow you cant use golden hammer 50% for the second hammer slot on zero weapon </3

Reply January 3, 2015
sauceyblader

I would go with kaiser. You already have the sword and they hit insanely fast once you break the speed cap w/ a green mpe pot. To get 800k i would assume you would need 9% str on all your gear with a decent amount of % attack and t.dmg along with 7+ starred tyrants. At about 800k range you would probably hit 3-5m on gigas.

Reply December 30, 2014
stevenman76

My suggestions if you're looking for damage are:

-Demon slayer: Can reach 100% abnormal status resistance with just cygnus links. Their mobbing is amazing, and their bossing is pretty good too. They can cap in dojo with approx a 2.7m range and average %boss. Also dont forget, they get a free 20% drop rate from demon cry.
-Kaiser: Their bossing is really good, and you already have that sword. They attack really fast when out of their transformation. Their mobbing is pretty meh though, so know that before going into it.
-Dawn warrior: 50% Elemental defense ignore is REALLY useful... Like you don't realize how good it is until you play a DW or a pre-nerf pally(Showed a lot more in pre-nerf pally due to them having 100%. Just as an example, losing that 100% ele ignore and 1 line of damage dropped them from top 10 dps to the bottom of the charts) They've also got tons of utility, and right now are in the top like 8 in DPS in kms.
-Zero: Really high dps overall. Easy to play, hard to master(bossing). You've got to scroll your own wep though, so if you were planning on buying or priming one through service, then just don't pick zero. Their really fun IMO, and theyve got tons of abilities that youll be using even when youre at the level of bossing. Also, each character has their own hp and time force bar, which regen really fast if you're not using them. This is really good for endgame bosses like emp, gollux, and magnus(I think it has like a 5 second one right?), due to the potion cooldown.

-Some guy said aran: Honestly, I would'nt play aran. From what ive heard they're kinda sorta fun, but if youre looking for damage just turn your head in the other direction. They may hit hard, but their attack speed is a lot lower than other classes, and esp at endgame when you're capping, they do a lot less in terms of dps.

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
Ginseng

I'm currently playing a DW right now, and my drk friend who has equal funding hits much harder than me @ magnus/hellux/CRA despite the KOC innate 50% ele resist ignore...the raw dps of DW is just too low to compare to zero/drk/hero/kaiser (which are the top warriors if you care about DPS). However, the DW's bind and true sight party utilities are incomparable to any utility any other class offers (asides from...maybe kanna).

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
moelesterson

The problem with non adventurer warriors is they're not very pick up and play friendly, meaning to see results for end game bosses
You're going to need to put in more than just level to 200 and throw decent gear at them. There's a really big gap between the funding it takes to do hard gollux and hell gollux so it really depends
On what your main goals with your character are. If you're looking to boss at things like commerci, hard gollux etc, you can pretty much play any warrior really with the gear you described.
Now if you're looking to beat things like chaos root on a non adv warrior it's going to take more than just decent funding, you're going to need to put a lot more effort into them than just gear.
What makes funding a non adv warrior worth it imo is the "utility" each has.

Kaiser; can achieve 100% crit and resistance, ability to have highest hits per/s, bypass all skill cooldowns (including echo and linkskills and souls) and attack through all weapon cancels and Dr.

Ds; can achieve 100% resistance, has skills that attack though cancel and Dr, one of the best mobbers in the game, has skills for %drop and %exp as well as a bind skill.

Dawn warrior; another amazing mobber, is a cyg so natural ability to hit harder on physical resistant bosses, has a party skill that let's everyone hit harder on physical resistant bosses, has a bind skill.

This isn't everything about these classes but hopefully it gives some insight

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
fradddd

@daringwaffle: well, they're all fun except Kaiser and Demon Avenger in my opinion. But fun is subjective so just try whichever one seems most appealing TO YOU and play it til you hate it.

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
daringwaffle

[quote=Mesmus]Sounds like you don't want to play warrior...

May be stick with thief ? Lol.

But by all means go with kaiser if you really want to. It's still a solid class.[/quote]

i mean, i said i didnt want to play literally 4/11 warrior classes? and i gave reasons for each. aran im just not a fan of how they attack, never have been
honestly drk is okay, but i REALLY hate the way explorer warrior fj works. its god awful IMO

@fradddd: its not ALL about bossing. I still wanna have fun. you can really only spend a short time bossing each day anyways.
If i didnt have to scroll my own zero weapon, itd be really tempting as well, but spending >100k nx for +7atk scrolled? thats insane

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
Mesmus

[quote=daringwaffle]i strongly dislike aran. Demon slayer is up there in choices, undecided though. I do find them a tad slow[/quote]

Sounds like you don't want to play warrior...

May be stick with thief ? Lol.

But by all means go with kaiser if you really want to. It's still a solid class.

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
fradddd

@daringwaffle: Well I don't know why you'd want a good bossing warrior and then reject the three adventurers cause I think Hero and Dark Knight are still pretty high up in DPM. Paladin ain't so good anymore except for defense and support.

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
daringwaffle

[quote=fradddd]@daringwaffle: Kaiser is retarded. You should try Aran or Demon Slayer.[/quote]
i strongly dislike aran. Demon slayer is up there in choices, undecided though. I do find them a tad slow

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
fradddd

@daringwaffle: Kaiser is retarded. You should try Aran or Demon Slayer.

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
daringwaffle

[quote=fradddd]If you don't like adventurers warriors you should just go back to thieves.[/quote]

disagree. adventure warriors are not the only warriors.
The main thing i hate about them is not being able to bind flash jump to a key, double tapping jump is a pain in the ass for me.
and paladin was stupid for buffs. Hero is boring. Drk is bleh

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
fradddd

If you don't like adventurers warriors you should just go back to thieves.

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
daringwaffle

[quote=AntiSenpai]800k clean and a good sword already, yeah you should do Kaiser. Think of them as the dual blade of warriors, they have low % on attack but hit very fast and with the last revamp, they got a lot better.[/quote]

yeah im kind of leaning towards kaiser because of the sword haha
i guess i should probably spend a few days on mine before i spend another 10b trying to transfer gear :S

Edit: im assuming 800k, mostly because i have far better gear than my NL, and its at 600k buffed already. 205 claw, strictly 100%d star forced CRA,9% pendants and the like
vs 11star tyrant shoe, 20%+ on all CRA 20atk etc

if anyone knows what it takes for 800k clean on kaiser, lemme know?
Im assuming ill hit say 7000-8000 str no problem, and a 350atk sword (12%atk emblem too)

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
AntiSenpai

800k clean and a good sword already, yeah you should do Kaiser. Think of them as the dual blade of warriors, they have low % on attack but hit very fast and with the last revamp, they got a lot better.

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
daringwaffle

[quote=okaythen]Try dawn warrior, they're pretty good.
Kaiser is good as well, even if they're not capping.
They just need more funding than other warriors.[/quote]

I heard dawn warriors WOULD be good if it wasnt for latency issues making them attack much slower than they should?

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited
okaythen

Try dawn warrior, they're pretty good.
Kaiser is good as well, even if they're not capping.
They just need more funding than other warriors.

Reply December 29, 2014 - edited