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Yay Dark Knights

Also, it is EXTREMELY misleading to count the buff from Thirst in your "buffed" range. It adds 9-10k in most people's cases but it only lasts for 30 seconds while the rest of our buffs last about 200-300 seconds. Not to mention it's cooldown makes for incredibly inconsistent damage. I mean its nice that we have the capability for some burst damage, but to count that short term boost as a part of your supposed range is pushing it.

Therefore, I really think this is being blown out of proportion. Her range didn't jump from 10 to 50k. It jumped from 11 to 45k. Assuming we don't include Thirst, her range was only jumped from 11 to 34k (you know, using her reliable buffs). I wish people would stop exaggerating the improvements being made to Dark Knights (especially since Thirst is a skill we already have lol).

isn't what you said a comparison of the amount of damage though? if a pally hits 8 mobs then that means they do more damage than a drk that hits 6 mobs, or am i wrong here?

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[quote=Evan7]o.o am i missing something here?[/quote]

Charge Blow has a bigger range than Dark Impale.

[quote=iVege]I might be pissing myself.

[url=http://www.southperry.net/maplerange.php?ltx=-350&lty=-100&rbx=50&rby=30&size=1366]Charged Blow[/url] and [url=http://www.southperry.net/maplerange.php?ltx=-270&lty=-70&rbx=0&rby=0&size=1366]Dark Impale[/url].[/quote]

o.o am i missing something here?

[quote=wertz49]Range: Dark knights, that impale has quite a lot of reach[/quote]

I might be pissing myself.

[url=http://www.southperry.net/maplerange.php?ltx=-350&lty=-100&rbx=50&rby=30&size=1366]Charged Blow[/url] and [url=http://www.southperry.net/maplerange.php?ltx=-270&lty=-70&rbx=0&rby=0&size=1366]Dark Impale[/url].

[quote=Evan7]oh its you
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My gosh, it's YOU!

Oh wait, those were the 1000 other people who asked the exact same question as you; nevermind.

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oh its you
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[quote=justinhabler]are pallys really stronger than drks? i thought drks hit harder on mobs, but pallys hit harder on bosses (1v1)[/quote]

when you say X job is stronger at mobbing compared to Y job, you do not take only DMG to say that, for example, pallys with ACB do a really nice dmg and to 8 mobs.. while dark impale only hits 6 mobs..

are pallys really stronger than drks? i thought drks hit harder on mobs, but pallys hit harder on bosses (1v1)

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[quote=Evan7]What about Pre-Red?[/quote]

pre red? Easy..

Damage: Paladin
Less Funding: Paladin
Mobility: Paladin
Defense: Paladin
HP: Drk
and Your opinion: both are equally fun to me...

[quote=Evan7]What about Pre-Red?[/quote]

Pre-red:
Damage: Paladin but I don't recall by how much as of this moment
Mobility: Equal
Hp: Dark Knight
Less funding: Paladin
Defense: Paladin

Their mostly equal to each other both pre-RED and post-RED, just with the exception that post-RED Dark Knight just utterly DESTROYS paladin on anything that doesn't have physical resist (on things that do have it, Paladin is higher DPM wise by about 2.5k% / second)

Edit: Paladins are above Dark Knights by about 3k% / second DPM wise currently.

[quote=lazershock]Assuming we're talking post-RED here
Damage: depends on situation, on bosses with physical resist - Paladin, otherwise Dark Knight
Less funding: Dark Knight because you can go from 10k clean to 50k range buffed
Mobility: Equal
Defense: Paladin hands down
Hp: Dark Knight
Imo it depends on you're preferences.[/quote]

What about Pre-Red?

Assuming we're talking post-RED here
Damage: depends on situation, on bosses with physical resist - Paladin, otherwise Dark Knight
Less funding: Dark Knight because you can go from 10k clean to 50k range buffed
Mobility: Equal
Defense: Paladin hands down
Hp: Dark Knight
Imo it depends on you're preferences.

DrK gets soooo sick after RED update

[quote=SombraManx]paladins get elemental void in red..... thats the best buff ever for bossing

paladins are Super dmg + Super defence

Edit: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZWttLN82jQ4]Found the video.[/url][/quote]
Nice video, i think is all about preferences after RED and now you have the chance to switch classes so, njoy both xD

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Looks like crossover chains does go into range. Gungnir is OP. Thanks for the vid.

paladins get elemental void in red..... thats the best buff ever for bossing

paladins are Super dmg + Super defence

Edit: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZWttLN82jQ4]Found the video.[/url]

There is a video post red of a Dark Knight with 10k range unbuffed at dojo and with some buffs she gets like 50k range.

EDIT: Found the video http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTczMzczNTY4.html

If they both have the same exact funding I would have to choose Paladin (not being biased here) in terms of damage due to the multiple hits of blast as well as the additional elemental damage done to non resistant monsters. Both classes have the same mobility, but Dark's beat paladins in HP due to the Hyper Body skill but Pally's beat them on defense. Even with less funding I would still say Paladin at higher levels would be stronger than dark's or at least that is what I have seen so far.

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I think drks have cooler weapons but pallies' skills are more appealing