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@xtagg@fumumu I think it got fixed because I can spam final toss again, but their support really does suck.

@maplebhav that really is a load of crap. They can view YT. I know because I've made reports in the past on unlisted vids and the view count goes up by them. Nexon support is a joke. Seriously. They just lie and lie and do anything to avoid solving the issues people have. Notice how they close tickets right away even for unresolved issues now?

The issue however seems to have improved or been resolved at least for me. I'm finding I haven't had my char slash air or had any issues with final toss at all recently. Not even once or even during 2x.

That seems like bull sh**. I've seen posts by the ex-CM on reddit asking to provide video proof as further information, and there has been people who provide recorded evidence to report hackers.

Also it's not completely fixed. It still happened to me yesterday while i was doing Gollux but seems to be more responsive than before. The bug is very random.

@maplebhav: Maha almighty... that's just infuriating. Thanks for trying anyway. Not sure if it's 100% fixed but it seems to be significantly better.

@xtagg Yeah, I sent them a ticket last week with a link to the video (youtube link) I made, I got a response yesterday which said

"Hello again,

Thanks for the video and for your willingness to help. So far we have not posted any resolutions regarding this issue on our website, however, we truly appreciate your cooperation. If you can also provide a process list, a Netalyzer and a traceroute, that would be awesome."

So I went to check the video statistics to see how many views it had (expecting it go up by 1 because it's a private video which can only be accessed with a link), and ofcourse it did not go up. So I emailed back:

"I think it got fixed with the latest patch, I will email back if it has not.

P.S Don't lie to me nobody has seen that video, I can tell if anyone else besides me has seen it as the number of views would have increased. It's impressive I go out of my way to make a video to show you the bug a lot of people are having issues with and you couldn't even be bothered to see my video."

To which I got the following message today:

"Hello again,

Thanks for getting back to us for the update. As much as I would love to view your video, however, third party sites are disabled in our office due to security policy. As mentioned, this report was already filed to our Game Team. Also, the Game Team gathers information from other players so I am unable to disclose which files they have looked into."

So basically I wasted my time making a video which illustrates the issues we all had, for them to not even take the time to open it up. It's a youtube video ontop of it all so it's not even a random video site.

I'll record the bug with aero swing activating late causing you not to jump

@maplebhav: Did you deliver?

lol i also noticed this and its super annoying when i attack on second FT instead of getting my full jump, i started just using rope skill now

I'll record something this weekend, but will need support from others to get it recognised as an issue.

I think if enough people spam complaints it'll get attention. Which doesn't seem like a lot of Aran players are doing atm.

@ensoe: I knew that's how it would pan out. You really need video proof for this kind of thing. I'm not just talking about in game. You need to be recording your hands IRL also and show there is no lag currently on the server when you record. Only with this will they see there's an actual issue. Nexon is incredibly incompetent.

https://imgur.com/a/v7EGg#2kmVzSu

:thinking:

It happens randomly in random maps and channels regardless of lag.

I thought it was just lag at first too to begin with. I did more tests afterwards on channels and times I knew there was no lag and there are times your character will still attack air rather than use the attack you have used through key commands. This is most common with Final blow and Final toss. Even with 0 lag it still can happen rarely and it's incredibly irritating because there's a 25% skill damage boost for using the commands.

@xtagg @fumumu I have also sent a ticket, I tried to make a thread on their forums but was unable to find "create thread" (been a while since I made one).

(Section below may help those who have not figured it out)

Anyway, I have noticed something regarding our responsiveness as detailed below:

Normally whenever we use an attack, say Final Toss twice, to jump up we can all spam that 99% of the time without fail, but the issue we are all having is that sometimes we cannot spam it at all, personally for me the rate goes to below 5% when I "lag".

The cause of this is their "Server lag".

To fix this temporarily, if you enter a map you will either "lag" or be fine. I have found that if I lag (easy to test just try using Final Toss twice a few times, if it fails most likely it's because of the "lag"), I need to enter CS or change maps or change channel to fix this, however the issue is this is really annoying as it can take over 10+mins for it to fix itself and when we are doing daily quests and enter new maps it can get frustrating.

Once you are on the map you want to say farm Nodes in, do not change maps/CC/enter CS, as this will risk you facing lag again.

I can upload a video to illustrate the problem, but the issue will be getting it noticed and fixed by Nexon which we all know is not easy.

If either of you do create a thread or would like me to upload a video to post on a thread please let me know. We all need to post on the same thread to get this issue fixed. (Note: Nexon are doing something with their official forums later this month)

@fumumu: I will try also.

One more aran bug questions, does anyone elses aero swing not activate sometimes, so you fall like normal but the next time you jump, it only jumps like 2 pixels off the ground due to aero swing activating late for some reason. It's happened to me a lot lately.
If i'm the only one with this issue, I can record it to show

@xtagg: Trying to explain the issue to them in live chat or a ticket is going to be a mission but everyone should def push the issue.

I haven't yet. I only made a bug report which has most likely gone of deaf ears. I will try live chat or a ticket.

Even though it won't help, has anyone submitted a ticket or tried live chat?

This is unacceptable

Still not fixed. So annoying. Can't even boss or farm properly.

@minipapoute: Before you could double final boss and reach max height but now you have to manually time the second perfectly or you'll get the "lmao height"

Its crazy you almost have to be frame perfect

mmh i can't double final toss properly since the update. I feel like my character doesn't follow my controls..

yea before the patch i could double final toss without any problems, but now arans just feel super clunky

Still not fixed. I can't do Hellux anymore because i fail the final toss half the time and get that invert debuff.

@pentakiruuu: the aero swing jumping thing has been happening to me for months, where you jump like a pixel, and yes I still am occasionally getting the crouching instead of final blow.
Also where is the controller config menu now?

Well, sometimes when I do my down + attack combo it crouches and does a low attack.
Or sometimes when I try to jump, okay this one is weird it just goes up like a centimeter... also sometimes the jump + attack combo doesn't work either.

Fun.

The lag seems to have stopped at least 90% for me, I think it was just a bad couple days.

@fumumu it seems like my range drops 100k when I'm not attacking, but as soon as I hit something it goes up 100k? Is it just me or has it always been like this?

@create: Yeah it's def not a lag issue although lag does make it worse. Something has changed this update. I'm finding these issues still happen at off hours. Really really sucks. People need to help report this to Nexon.

It seems a little better today, maybe it was partly due to the lag; but I still feel the leeway between commands has decreased.

@xtagg: http://www.basilmarket.com/More-Aran-nerfs-inc-Thread-b5JY6

I list the changes at the top. As for the drain they nerfed it. It's now 1% from 2%.

I've been away for bit, were we hit with more damage nerfs? My range isn't what I remember it being.
And this lag seems so random, It's either no problem, or very annoying

Yeah. I suppose it is a bit all over the place. Happened to me also like you said and only after the V update. Very rarely does it happen when it isn't lagging though but it does happen.

I don't know.

edit: It happens randomely when i don't lag at all, and when i lag.

@redaran: How do you know though? Only reason I have a feeling it's based on lag is because sometimes it's fine. Usually during off hours when most sleep. This hasn't happened before the V update like you said but the V update brought a lot of players back. Reboot is practically full and other servers have also had a rise in population. You may be right though. It could be a bug. I have already made a report on it but it will probably go on deaf ears. Hopefully more people voice out about this issue.

How is it for everyone since the maint this week? I'm finding it didn't fully resolve this issue at all. I still get it from time to time although the hardcore lag isn't like it was before. It remains to be seen how 2x will handle.

It's a bug. Not lag, and has happened ever since the V Events patch. When i try to do BB + FB, half the time my character just crouches.

I'm glad other people are experiencing the same issue.
I can't even consistently attack with Final Blow + Beyond Blade anymore, since half the time I end up crouching and attacking.

I have to use the keybind instead of the command, which really sucks. I hope this gets fixed soon.

This is terrible..

@pentakiruuu: lol this is a very old look but I love the appearance of the emp polearm so I anviled over my fafnir.

@fumumu: Unrelated but it looks like the lionheart polearm goes a long way huh.

Yea I've noticed this too, its pretty annoying

The delay issue I think is related mostly to reboot being so populated and laggy atm. If they put reboot on it's own network we wont have these issues anymore.

@drchi: For finger pain? Relax and be gentler.
For the delay problem? Hope for the best >.> 2x is unplayable for me but seems way better and more responsive during normal times.

I was having problems with this too. I couldn't use my up smash at all, it was like I was hitting a ceiling. Might have to quit for now though... My fingers hurt too much grinding, any advice?

It's still around but disappears from time to time. Only started happening after this update. I really hope they get the server delay situation sorted asap.

@fumumu: seems some-what better than before for me now

I was pretty sure it was lag, or maybe a slight bug as it doesn't seem consistent. Some times I can do the inputs fine and other times my character will sit there swinging....

Havent played since 2 days ago so this may be a very interesting experience to say the least...

Hey Blazy try again now. I dunno about your server but it may have been server lag causing it. It feels fine to me now.

I did talk to a friend who has very low ping and he says he is having the same issue sometimes ever since this patch.

oh yeah, my bad haha! Smash swing with the passive called Aero swing, not sure why I said aerial swing XD

You mean smash swing? If so I agree. It feels smoother and quicker in this patch. Hopefully they keep it as is and change the rest.

Yeah I hope so too, it feels so weird and off when I try to final toss twice or final toss+final blow. But, at the same time I feel aerial swing seems to work better with the weird response time or maybe it's just me.

I read about getting decent skills for 5th job, I think it'll be great since I can re-potential my equips to get rid of some decent skills for more stats %

Yeah I know that was my post. I made anouther though after noticing exactly what the thread starter was going on about. Even with DSI the response is worse in the V update compared to the previous patches.

The balance changes that happened in the V update were not included in the patch notes though which is correct but it has nothing to do with the response on our command based skills. That is unintended. I really hope they fix this asap.

You will still want to get DSI though. If you don't get it you can always get it after the 5th job update as a skill on the V Matrix. Coming on the 15th.

I thought the same until I read what someone named Peep on maplestory official forums said a few hours ago. He said:

"This is due to the balance changes that got put into place. I thought they were coming in the later patches but there's a lot of information left out of the patch notes. In this patch Aran got their booster skill reduced to 2 speed rather than 3 before, their drain nerfed to 1% compared to 2% before and their cleave reduced by 20% damage.

If you have decent speed infusion you should be unaffected."

I used all my honor trying to get 1 atk speed in inner ability for one line, but ended up with Jump + 6 for that line and now I'm stuck with it until I get more honor lolsss