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Db or Phantom?

Hi,

After re-reading the rebalance notes on KMS, I'm thinking about switching classes to either a DB or Phantom.

I'm just wondering, how do they compare to each other in terms of funding, bossing, training?

What's your overall opinion on these classes in terms of gameplay (taking into account for any buffs / nerfs following rebalance)?

Thanks.

August 12, 2015

19 Comments • Newest first

d34thr4y99

i vote phantom, err, struggles are real, 10/10 hardest to build perfection
[quote=iproducemilk]Do I dare say 3[/quote]
can we stop it at that before it goes out of hand? *stares at 3rd hand*

Reply August 24, 2015 - edited
vitodunno

Dual blade

Reply August 14, 2015 - edited
iproducemilk

[quote=pascalio95]what's cooler than using 2 daggers?[/quote]

Do I dare say 3

Reply August 13, 2015 - edited
pascalio95

what's cooler than using 2 daggers?

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
Radiating

Dualbaeder <3

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
Demente

DB is more fun and cheaper then Phantoms imo.

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
Masdevour

Db is best.

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
Crysteel

GO PLAY A PHANTOM <3 <3

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
mla123

[quote=e1994010]If you are switching over for damage then NW is still superior after reboot.[/quote]

yea but nexon is pretty much taking away any hp healing skill they had along with hp. I would say db feels more fluid than phantom since phantom can't jump with mille. And we can fly

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
e1994010

If you are switching over for damage then NW is still superior after reboot.

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
Taisuke

Phantoms take way more funds to cap if you are looking at arrow platter/mille aug combo. Its like 26k+ luk and 12-15 star tyrants. I say dbs are better if you don't have that kind of gear.

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
kelvin8604

Actually, i have auto buff on 3 pets. All i have to cast is surge, rage and aria. Decent skills are optional, since all classes take the same smount of time switching and casting those. Boost is really necessary since phantoms are keydown attackers. 3 buffs left isnt much.

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
epikkhighh

[quote=kelvin8604]But what if its a phantom with the perma final cut? >[/quote]

still doesnt have shared cs and has too many buffs to worry about still

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
kelvin8604

[quote=epikkhighh]i personally prefer db over phantom. i did want to a phantom at one point, but as above as said, you have a lot of skills and buffs to work with.

i also love the shared cs inventory, in case i wanted to make a new adventurer main, i just dont like waiting for cs transfers.

i have 149% base speed, 159% speed with my scout regiment medal, 123% jump, no need for self haste. with 2 pets that has auto buff, i buff mw every 20 minutes, thorns and katara booster every 4 mins. 3 buffs self cast, 2 of which you need to worry about. if you do have a third pet its 2/1 buffing. if you can manage to get perma final cut ( i forgot the exact percent again, i think its 50%) db's are a great class.[/quote]

But what if its a phantom with the perma final cut? >

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
epikkhighh

i personally prefer db over phantom. i did want to a phantom at one point, but as above as said, you have a lot of skills and buffs to work with.

i also love the shared cs inventory, in case i wanted to make a new adventurer main, i just dont like waiting for cs transfers.

i have 149% base speed, 159% speed with my scout regiment medal, 123% jump, no need for self haste. with 2 pets that has auto buff, i buff mw every 20 minutes, thorns and katara booster every 4 mins. 3 buffs self cast, 2 of which you need to worry about. if you do have a third pet its 2/1 buffing. if you can manage to get perma final cut ( i forgot the exact percent again, i think its 50%) db's are a great class.

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
mdisback

phantom is the way to go

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited
envenomed

I stopped playing my Dual Blade a long time ago (2 years or more) but I love my Phantom. Perhaps both are equally expensive but toally worth every single penny or mesos.

Phantom has a lot of ways to work in a party thanks to its nature, you can be a supporter and/or attacker at the time! So being a phantom is always welcome. To add some more, it has a great avoid/dodge rate so you'll not get bored for its versatility and variety of skills. Easy and great mobility and mobber as well.

Downside: - Too many skills taking up so much time to boost. Imagine this scenario at gollux, where you don't have much time to recast your skill, it's a hassle.
- Hard to fund, LUK is one of the most, if not, the most expensive stat in the market. So prepare yourself to spend a lot.
- Naturally low %dmg skills. Don't expect to dish out a lot of damage having high range.

Can't think of other things about phantom, but those are pretty much its highlights.

Advice: Play something you really enjoy, I've always been against jumping mains 'cause of revamps.

Reply August 12, 2015 - edited