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Is this a good idea?

Adding the option for Clean Slate Scrolls to the Spell Trace System.

Full explanation here: [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F14'10-Suggestion-Add-CSS-to-spell-trace-system%26nxid%3D6]http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F14'10-Suggestion-Add-CSS-to-spell-trace-system%26nxid%3D6[/url]

March 30, 2015

15 Comments • Newest first

David0696

[quote=LShadow3]You make an excellent point to be honest. Clean Slate duping is going through the roof now. In Windia, one day, the slates were 35m, then the next morning, it's 25 cause one guy duped like 200. (Or maybe he legitimately merched, but I highly doubt that).[/quote]

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Not everything is duped.
Maybe a supplier just welcomed a whole bunch to the market for cheap. By a supplier, I mean a botter.

If someone were to dupe, they would dupe something that is not only three billion per slot in their shop.

Reply April 8, 2015
LShadow3

You make an excellent point to be honest. Clean Slate duping is going through the roof now. In Windia, one day, the slates were 35m, then the next morning, it's 25 cause one guy duped like 200. (Or maybe he legitimately merched, but I highly doubt that).

Reply April 8, 2015
Blackinup

You know how nexon is. Even if they agree to it 200 spell traces will be so little. They might add a couple hundred zeroes plus 50 mil.

Reply March 30, 2015
ChaserTheWeak

Dont think they wont and they [b]WILL[/b] turn around to start farming spell traces thus no solution has been achieved.

Reply March 30, 2015
JayAlec

@Lecarde: I see very good points. Thanks for the great input and see you at the Maple apocalypse !

Reply March 30, 2015
hongfung

This system will make the game easier, but not as much as you would think.
The best scrolls for ST are the 15% ones. Without any diligence or lucky day's, that's an 85% of failing. You also have to factor in hammers, enhancements, ect.
I've heard accounts of people failing 70 10% CSS in a row, so the only difference would be the system that is used. Ultimately it boils down to your luck.

I suppose one could argue that bots make the game easier by farming everything for us, but does it make the game better?

Reply March 30, 2015
Lecarde

@JayAlec: No, spell traces will be just as easy as ever. Save up crusader coins, which are really easy to get, and then go trade them in. 20 crusader coins will give you 100 spell traces.

And yea, this will make it easier to perfect gear. But perfect gear is only a small part of your range now. Enhancing tyrants is a huge boost, but potential, and bonus potential, are an even bigger boost to your range than simply having perfect gear.

Reply March 30, 2015
JayAlec

@Lecarde: I see, I guess much of it depends on how many Spell Traces will equal to 1 clean slate.
Now I fear Maplestory will become too easy if things like this comes through and it'll evolve into a game full of capping players with no goal to work towards.
Also if Nexon does somehow remove all botters/hackers then Spell Traces will be very very difficult to obtain especially for unfunded players.
I don't even know what to think anymore.

Reply March 30, 2015
Lecarde

@rockboarder: Why not both though? To me, clean slating shouldn't be too easy. Having a price of both spell traces and mesos is a way to make it slightly harder, without putting it out of reach of the unfunded.

@JayAlec: They would certainly inflate, but not too much. Everyone can get their own spell traces with crusader coins and evo coins, so you should have enough to perfect a weapon in a few weeks of playing without buying any spell traces from anyone else. I don't see how it hurts the unfunded if they can always get spell traces just from bossing (or killing silent crusade bosses)

Reply March 30, 2015
JayAlec

I image that it would inflate the Spell Traces to such an extent that it would
affect the unfunded players more than the more wealthy ones even though the Spell Traces
were more for the unfunded population. Now, I don't know for sure, but I think more funded players
would use clean slates to perfect equips where as unfunded players just need Spell Traces for a way
to increase their range in any way, but again not sure. I know this is poorly explained, but this was the first thing to mind
when I read this (a.k.a. my opinion/guess). But hey, you got to make compromises.

Reply March 30, 2015
Kizzy9000

Sounds like it will be hella easy, but maybe its fine to make this game easier, maybe its past the point of being a challenge.

Reply March 30, 2015
rockboarder

@Lecarde: Actually wouldnt it be better if spell traces are used to scroll and mesos are used to css?

Reply March 30, 2015
Lecarde

@rockboarder: At least it is possible to get thousands of spell traces legitimately every few days through crusader coins. I think that 200 spell traces would be a fair price for a 10% CSS effect to be applied to cRA gear. Obviously the amount of spell traces would be affected by level. I pick 200 because it is easily obtainable, maybe too easy maybe not. But there should also be a money aspect since we need a meso sink in the game. Perhaps 200 spell traces and 2mil mesos per attempt. Or something along the lines of 500 spell traces and 3mil mesos per attempt, but it needs to be cheap enough to be accessible to every player.

Reply March 30, 2015
hongfung

[quote=rockboarder]Then wouldnt we just be buying spell traces from botters?[/quote]

Spell traces are more easily obtainable (e.x: silent crusade/events/general mob drops).
I also notice that many of the typical botter shops do not sell spell traces an typically go for the money-snatchers (CSS/hammers/cubes).

Although it is different per world.

Reply March 30, 2015
rockboarder

Then wouldnt we just be buying spell traces from botters?

Reply March 30, 2015