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Wand vs Staff

Is the extra attack from the staff better then the extra crit you get for using a wand?

July 18, 2016

15 Comments • Newest first

nitsua2789

@siggy: Weapon Speed doesn't affect the cast speed of magic skills (except for BaM's) but Attack Speed buffs do affect Mana Burst.

It's only the base speed on the weapon that doesn't matter.

OT: If you need 3% crit rate to hit 100% crit rate, then use a wand. If not, use a staff.

Reply July 19, 2016
SorLilly

Oh now it makes sense after years @keyan22 , it's easier to say it affects basic attack speed instead of casting speed like when we use skills. That's easier to understand because I thought the speed of weapon also affects our skills.

@wiiman360 thank you ^^

Reply July 18, 2016
Momijii

@siggy: it's likely just a byproduct of MS being so old. that is, Nexon really can't be bothered to essentially normalize Mages by having only attack speed. of course, then there's the balance headache that'd come with that. Nexon's just slow sometimes. after all, Explorer Mages had no weapon multiplier until RED.

Reply July 18, 2016
Siggy

@wiiman360 That's weird then. I wonder what reasoning makes it not work. If there is any, that is.

Reply July 18, 2016
wiiman360

@siggy: just tested it yesterday i used a normal att speed wand, a slow att speed staff and a fast att speed staff (mushroom)

number of mana bursts didnt change

Reply July 18, 2016
Siggy

@keyan22 Yeah pre revamp weapon speed didnt affect any of our skills, but weapon speed should affect Mana Burst atm since attack speed bosts affect it. I dunno why it wouldn't. Without more testing this isn't really gonna get anywhere, lol.

Reply July 18, 2016
keyan22

@siggy: Before the revamp it was confirmed not too, I'm not sure as of now though.

Reply July 18, 2016
Siggy

@keyan22 Huh, that really doesn't make sense to me. They should affect it the same way as the wands higher att speed theoretically.

Reply July 18, 2016
keyan22

@siggy: Decent SI and stuff changes the speed of it, I just see no change with a wand, I have booster on so that might be it, but if it only helps without it it's not too useful.

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
Siggy

@keyan22 It should work on Mana Burst, since attack speed boosts affect it, otherwise it wouldn't work on other mages, except for old F/P's Explosion skill. It'd be odd if boosting attack speed worked, but having a faster attack speed weapon didn't..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to1sJBBkJ3s

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
keyan22

@siggy: I've tried to make sure, it doesn't seem at all different, even tried all tiers of "speed", seen no difference, even tried on other mages too.

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
Siggy

@keyan22 Actually it does affect Mana Burst along with other attack speed buffs

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
keyan22

@sorlilly: The wand attack speed only effects basic attacks, doesn't do anything with the casting part.

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
SorLilly

Staff so you can resale so I keep thinking the speed on wand over staff will help Mana Burst a bit like +1 attack speed.

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
keyan22

The extra attack is better in the long run.

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited