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@RLxBellz:
Yea, teachers losing money or gaining money.
Theres another interesting article I read called "The Plot Against Public Education" by Bob Herbert [url=http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-plot-against-public-education-111630.html#.VGP82lfF95U]-[/url]
Thanks for the advice!

I haven't given it a whole lot of thought, but I'll spout some stuff off the top of my head.

I don't think it's a very good idea to base your early life around getting into college. You're told to put a lot of hours into volunteer work and extra curricular activities because schools want to see that you're a well rounded person, but for the most part, these things are nonsense. Making something good is difficult. Seriously trying to learn something is difficult. Volunteer work, while it's probably admirable, is not. Being a leader of one of those nonsense in-school organizations isn't either. On top of that, the college admissions process is pretty bad. There's an entire industry designed around subverting the process. There are parents who pay a lot of money to make their kid more attractive to colleges. It's not that the kid actually improves after going through something like that either.

That doesn't mean that it's a good idea to just quit, though. You'll still learn some good stuff in school. Treat it like a day job.

@icoleslawderp:

You heard that too ? I really would like some studies or credible articles that say that though .. I think it's a bit crazy and can either be a benefit or a downfall whichever way you look at it.

Also, I hate using ".com" sources, since I wasn't too sure how accurate they'd be, but Google is definitely a girl's best friend ya' know? You just have to narrow-down on your terminology to get specific articles like the ones I just used. Also, I think you're doing a research paper on this ? It's better to compare the United States education system with another countries that is doing better so you really have some statistics/data to compare it to and make your point more valid ya' feel ?

1.Bad
2. Work
3. Abolish it

you posted this thread again

[quote=RLxBellz]My take on the Public Education system in America is that it is undeniably the worst system created. We are told that we need to get an education so that we may further our endeavors in the future, but the catch is that it'll cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans if you ever decide to attend college/university. When you finally graduate to get your dream job, you're working to pay off that student loan. Can you imagine ? A friend of mine is a nursing major and you know how expensive medical textbooks cost. For ONE semester, which is approximately 16 weeks, her books cost a staggering $900. You expect the future generation to educate themselves, but make it incredibly impossible to do so.

Also, according to [url=http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/27/despite-recovery-fewer-americans-identify-as-middle-class/]Pew Research Center[/url], a whopping 40% of the families in the United States identify themselves as lower to lower-middle class citizens. These families probably won't be able to send their children through college unless they open up a trust fund, child will have to work through high school, or be expected to earn money in scholarships and grants.

Now let's take a look at the countries the United States are "competing" against. [url=http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/10/10/germany_college_is_free_there_even_for_foreign_students_why.html]Germany[/url] has made it possible for their students to go to college because there is no longer such a thing as tuition. This is their future generations, attending school, to become doctors, lawyers, physicists, &etc. Essentially, this does not put any burden of financial stress on the parents and does not pressure the students too much into trying to maintain grades JUST for a free ride to college.

This was a rather [url=http://ideas.ted.com/2014/09/04/what-the-best-education-systems-are-doing-right/]interesting[/url] read on Korea's and Finland's education system and why they are ranked as one of the top countries in terms of academic performance and education system.

Also, i'm not sure if it's true or not, but apparently teacher's are being paid based on their student's average test scores? I would like some credible sources for that.[/quote]

I heard teachers are being paid based on average test scores and state testing scores.

And dang you provided some awesome articles, where did you find them ?

@ShammyShakes Because the last one got locked some reason and I wanted more to answer.

i think most schools are out dated they should work out an agreement with textbook makers for pdf and have the students pay for tablets to put the pdf's on rather than old damaged text books (books were really bad at my school)
More programs for schools mine wanted to start a robotics club but we didnt have the funding

My take on the Public Education system in America is that it is undeniably the worst system created. We are told that we need to get an education so that we may further our endeavors in the future, but the catch is that it'll cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans if you ever decide to attend college/university. When you finally graduate to get your dream job, you're working to pay off that student loan. Can you imagine ? A friend of mine is a nursing major and you know how expensive medical textbooks cost. For ONE semester, which is approximately 16 weeks, her books cost a staggering $900. You expect the future generation to educate themselves, but make it incredibly impossible to do so.

Also, according to [url=http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/27/despite-recovery-fewer-americans-identify-as-middle-class/]Pew Research Center[/url], a whopping 40% of the families in the United States identify themselves as lower to lower-middle class citizens. These families probably won't be able to send their children through college unless they open up a trust fund, child will have to work through high school, or be expected to earn money in scholarships and grants.

Now let's take a look at the countries the United States are "competing" against. [url=http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/10/10/germany_college_is_free_there_even_for_foreign_students_why.html]Germany[/url] has made it possible for their students to go to college because there is no longer such a thing as tuition. This is their future generations, attending school, to become doctors, lawyers, physicists, &etc. Essentially, this does not put any burden of financial stress on the parents and does not pressure the students too much into trying to maintain grades JUST for a free ride to college.

This was a rather [url=http://ideas.ted.com/2014/09/04/what-the-best-education-systems-are-doing-right/]interesting[/url] read on Korea's and Finland's education system and why they are ranked as one of the top countries in terms of academic performance and education system.

Also, i'm not sure if it's true or not, but apparently teacher's are being paid based on their student's average test scores? I would like some credible sources for that.

[quote=icoleslawderp]Aye, thats not a bad idea. (Not stealing your idea just using it for my research paper.)[/quote]
thats fine. Also, all colleges should be free, but still accept the people that qualify but no! trillions go to war.

1. Its total crap which consist on classes that are a total waste of time.
2. teachers union has a firm hold so its nearly impossible to make changes to things not to mention funding for current textbooks
3. get rid of the teachers union, hold parents more responsible for their children's education, more funding for textbooks, higher teacher salaries, make all schools start and end their school years on the same dates, change when summer break is.

[quote=luckysausage]it should be more like in other countries. Remove middle school and start "high school" at grade 6. Let the people choose subjects in what theyre good in at an earlier age[/quote]

Aye, thats not a bad idea. (Not stealing your idea just using it for my research paper.)

it should be more like in other countries. Remove middle school and start "high school" at grade 6. Let the people choose subjects in what theyre good in at an earlier age