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What might be my damage be after Red?

Currently, I'm hitting 370k a line with AR, self-buffed, with Vengeance of Angels on, and MW 12 (excluding infinity). ...Also, let's say I'm going to upgrade to MW 30; how high do you assume my damage will go up to? My range is 50k ish

October 28, 2013

18 Comments • Newest first

azngirlLH

... Scania bishops?

Reply November 3, 2013
DrStrangenoob

There are no Windia Bishops... There are only... GIANT RATS

*inside joke*

Reply November 2, 2013
AkatsukiDark

There's..Windian..Bishops? Le gasp.

Reply November 2, 2013
lyingleo

Windia bishops ftw

Reply October 29, 2013
jeffreysty4

[quote=Hosanna]No idea! Go Bera Bishops [/quote]
there is a fair few of bera bishops commenting here

Reply October 29, 2013
terw123

rizzy es nooby

Reply October 29, 2013
lilnarutoboy

No hope for khaini bishop...

Reply October 29, 2013
SkyRemanent

Fellow Windian checking in

Reply October 29, 2013
DrStrangenoob

PSSSHHH
We shall not be outdone by these backwoods Berans! Is that not so, my fellow Windia brothers?

*crickets*

Reply October 28, 2013
TheDStar

Guess I should just name myself the only Bishop in El Nido and move on.

And what? I have around a 50k-ish range and do about 330k with AR each line.

Reply October 28, 2013
allovershoe

bera bishop represent.

Reply October 28, 2013
lilnarutoboy

I have the same range as u but i hit almost 500k.

Reply October 28, 2013
JustAnotherUser

Then there is the staff/wand multiplier being changed to 1.2 and 10% boss from AB so expect a lotta more damage.

Reply October 28, 2013
lilnarutoboy

Get link skill onto your bishop and get mw 30.

Reply October 28, 2013
DrStrangenoob

I don't really care to calculate how our damage per line will change after RED, so instead, I'll just focus on how our average DPS increases.

Following the DPS charts here:
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=49311

Our 1v1 gets boosted from 6760% with hypers at faster 3 speed currently to 8996% with hypers at faster 3 or 10496% with a full party. This doesn't count the fact that the magic damage multiplier gets increased as well after RED. See this thread for discussion: http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2725696/0/WandStaff_Multiplier_PostRED.html

Asuming that the weapon multiplier gets increased to 1.2, your 1v1 damage will increase by roughly 60% without a party and 86% with a full 6 man party. So say if you did 3M DPS (roughly the amount of damage you currently do I calculate), it will increase to 4.8M DPS post-RED without the party bonus applied.

The 20% damage reinforce for AR that avenging angel gives is neither an additive 20% (375 -> 395% per hit) nor a multiplicative 20% (375-->450% per hit), but rather it counts as a 20% total damage increase for AR only. Don't feel like explaining in detail, but see this thread for more info: http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=65562&title=Defense Ignore Formula & Reinforce Hyper Skills
I'll just say that the loss of 20% reinforce for avenging angel after RED isn't that big a loss in exchange for 3 extra hits, and the more %boss you have, the less you'll notice this loss.

[b]For ye with short attention spans[/b]
Expect a 60-86% increase in 1v1 DPS post RED and a 50% increase in 6 target mobbing DPS post RED based on my asumptions here.

Reply October 28, 2013
jeffreysty4

Just realized where all bishops from bera here.

Reply October 28, 2013
AuraShade86

Weak. Step up your game

Reply October 28, 2013
jeffreysty4

Well with AR they are going to take away the Vengeance of Angles damage buff so without it I hit about 500k ish per line however they gave VoA A different effect that AR is going to have 8 lines of damage so 500k times 8 is 4mill damage compared to 650k ish times 5 which is 3.25 mill damage. however AR no longer mobs. Also Bigbang will be our main mobing skills and they buffed the damage to 480% but 4 lines and It is spamable after using genesis. with that I should be hitting about my guess 600-700k per line so thats not bad. as for you you should be doing about 250-300k per line with AR and with bigbang you should be doing 350-450k per line.
Edit: This is not taking into consideration that we get like 5% damage boost per person In a party.
Also here is the link to the skill changes http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/kms-ver-1-2-196-maplestory-red-1st-impact/
Another Edit: I read that when VoA is off your total damage is +40% so that's a large boost to your range so the Amounts damage from bigbang are largely higher.
for me it should be about 900-1m per line. as for you 550-600k ish per line with bigbang

Reply October 28, 2013 - edited