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@megusta966

why bro?

[quote=jsjs4528]try it out urself >< get dojo gloves....then get the 32 atk and wear, which one more range which one better @.@ so easy ><[/quote]

the glove I'm comparing to is around 100 bucks...
not so sure i want to try

try it out urself >< get dojo gloves....then get the 32 atk and wear, which one more range which one better @.@ so easy ><

@scuxxmuji I'll show it when you come online

@denisewong

does that mean the empress glove will become useless after 200?

just go wit what u feel is epic. as for me, it's all about da full empress gear

Dojo is better for bossing only, unless your empress gloves isn't scrolled/cubed, then it would be better overall.

Judging from your job + your equips you mentioned in those posts, you should have no trouble getting top 10 gloves, or even the hero glove. If that is the case, I wouldn't get the empress gloves.

@jack0966: ya

[quote=ScuXxMuji]@jack0966: LOL you wish you had those items you're talking about[/quote]

Wanna see the vss im getting?

@jack0966: LOL you wish you had those items you're talking about

[quote=epikdeath]for the best stats/damage in the end, you should get top + bottom
the top = any thief top
bottom would be the homecoming (sports) event one because it has attack on it clean. This is assuming you can afford to self cube.
you will still complete an empress set, you just must wait until the evolving world for the empress shoulder pad to get to 6set effect without an overall
the 30% and 30 weapon attack from 6 set would make the ravenhorn gloves better, and you still keep top+bottom[/quote]
mhmm.. clever guy
I'll just get vss, bfc duped gear - it feels like a more cost effective method to achieve caped range

[quote=jack0966]the +2 skills wont go past max.[/quote]
for the best stats/damage in the end, you should get top + bottom
the top = any thief top
bottom would be the homecoming (sports) event one because it has attack on it clean. This is assuming you can afford to self cube.
you will still complete an empress set, you just must wait until the evolving world for the empress shoulder pad to get to 6set effect without an overall
the 30% and 30 weapon attack from 6 set would make the ravenhorn gloves better, and you still keep top+bottom

[quote=jack0966]the +2 skills wont go past max.[/quote]

You don't max every skill, so that helps with the unmaxed one(s). Also it can be used before you max the skill, which will be awhile.

[quote=SheepPB]I like to have a full set of the item I'm wearing. It makes it "complete" in my view. Think positive, it's like gaining passive combat order + attack + boss ignore.[/quote]

the +2 skills wont go past max.

[quote=jack0966]ah true.
I still believe that using empress gear ( 30 attack helm) is greater than full set. the set effect is not really worth it...[/quote]

I like to have a full set of the item I'm wearing. It makes it "complete" in my view. Think positive, it's like gaining passive combat order + attack + boss ignore.

[quote=SheepPB]You keep mentioning factors, such as nebulites, that can be placed on Empress gear. I merely said full Empress gear > etc. because it can have the potential. I never said whether or not people are willing to make it a reality.

Pft. You would only need to dojo if you want the gloves, which would nullify my main claim.[/quote]

ah true.
I still believe that using empress gear ( 30 attack helm) is greater than full set. the set effect is not really worth it...

[quote=jack0966]post 120 potential no longer exists on armour. the empress set does have the potential to be REALLY good if you are willing to outweigh the money to scroll the gears 20 attack +

but good luck doing that - for the same cost I'll just buy a few 25% nebs chuck em on my weapons and then I have just beaten the empress set

OH.... good luck dojoing with empress gears [/quote]

You keep mentioning factors, such as nebulites, that can be placed on Empress gear. I merely said full Empress gear > etc. because it can have the potential. I never said whether or not people are willing to make it a reality.

Pft. You would only need to dojo if you want the gloves, which would nullify my main claim.

[quote=SheepPB]Empress already has attack on them, thus giving them a theoretical higher potential of greater attack. Blackfist already has attack, but a lower tier. You get more than just that from the set, so in comparison with 27% luk VS the full set then yes I do believe a full Empress set has a higher theoretical potential than what you listed.[/quote]

post 120 potential no longer exists on armour. the empress set does have the potential to be REALLY good if you are willing to outweigh the money to scroll the gears 20 attack +

but good luck doing that - for the same cost I'll just buy a few 25% nebs chuck em on my weapons and then I have just beaten the empress set

OH.... good luck dojoing with empress gears

[quote=jack0966]so youre telling me that a 31% luk vss with 38 attack and an additional 27% luk from a top is not better than some 45 attack from a set bonus :S?
oh and dont forget 30 attack blackfist cloak with 27%luk... hmmm?[/quote]

Empress already has attack on them, thus giving them a theoretical higher potential of greater attack. Blackfist already has attack, but a lower tier. You get more than just that from the set, so in comparison with 27% luk VS the full set then yes I do believe a full Empress set has a higher theoretical potential than what you listed.

[quote=SheepPB]Nope. Full Empress with % > top and bottom % <3[/quote]

so youre telling me that a 31% luk vss with 38 attack and an additional 27% luk from a top is not better than some 45 attack from a set bonus :S?
oh and dont forget 30 attack blackfist cloak with 27%luk... hmmm?

[quote=jack0966]I never intend to use the full empress set.
27% top and bot > all [/quote]

Nope. Full Empress with % > top and bottom % <3

I never intend to use the full empress set.
27% top and bot > all

[quote=jack0966]I'm just trying to figure out if I should buy the second glove....[/quote]

U should if u plan on getting full empress set END.

It depends on whether you're bossing a lot. If you are then the dojo glove is better but if you're not then I suppose the second one would be good. If it is an empress glove even better, then you could get the whole set for 30% boss and 30 w.atk.

I'm just trying to figure out if I should buy the second glove....

if the empress gloves give u 15% more range than dojo gloves, they are better for mobbing.
dojo> for bossing

if your funded enough to hit cap rf on bosses, getting top 10 is easy. I was always rocking #1 gloves on my phantom

Which one positively affects your range the most?
I'd assume other gloves would be better, however if the dojo gloves come within 15% on your total range with other gloves, and you're bossing use those when bossing.