The only reason that i like my Aran more than my DS is because of the health loss with skills. Unless there's some 4th job skill that i'm not aware of that cuts down on that. MP-ing while losing health and getting attacked= No bueno.
I see how it is JC... Let's face-off on everything, and see who comes out on top?
Anyway, in all seriousness, I think Demon Slayers are better in general, and they win in most situations. Obvious examples where they win are in Empress, and their final DPM (when they start capping on everything) is way higher than Aran's, even when we use Rolling Spin.
JC you fail of course DS's are better only if they have the funding. It's so so so so much easier to fund an aran than a DS. But if you can get that funding on a DS to have at least 250k range you're good and you have way more survivability than an aran.
For example when fighting empress since that's the boss that everyone usually ends up fighting a DS can easily out survive an Aran.
Also Leech aura isn't glitched you just recast it and hit one monster whenever you need to heal. That resist that DS have is enough to out do an aran.
Also I've talked to some level 200 arans and they have problems soloing at empress. But my DS friend can solo fine lol
I find it easier to boss on my DS honestly higher base hp than a aran, status resist/def the one let down is finding how to achieve great dmg, after a whie on a aran you get a little irritated about that first attack you have to do before swings. You really start to wonder why they dont have magic crash. On a aran its easier to achieve good dmg.
But beside those reasons, you have good amount of def/status resist, to back you up, aran doesnt have that all it has defensive wise to me is Drain/high def. Both great classes but Ds is way less of a hastle to boss with.
w/o funding, can't say which character is better. Aran might be stronger than DS when we only consider about dmg, but DS is generally good and very stable.
[quote=Symbolics]@ramenrulz: That is true. About healing moves, I think it is not so good compared to Combo Drain. Raven Storm with a cd of 10 seconds and a bugged Leech Aura. 30% to guard an attack which regens 4% of hp. Ain't too reliable if you ask me, especially facing bosses like Zakum or HT which will render you defenseless with their 1/1 attack. My DS pre nerf was able to regenerate the whole of my HP in just a few seconds after getting 1/1-ed.[/quote]
Ahh yes let us remember the good days of when leech aura didnt have a ridiculous CD and was just a normal buff. I loved that skill and the nerf it killed DS for me
@ramenrulz: Hmm, I haven't maxed it, yeah. Was focusing on priority attack skills Never mind, DSes can avoid Zakum's 1/1 by just rushing through the body when the 1/1 animation started. That's how I survive.
@ramenrulz: That is true. About healing moves, I think it is not so good compared to Combo Drain. Raven Storm with a cd of 10 seconds and a bugged Leech Aura. 30% to guard an attack which regens 4% of hp. Ain't too reliable if you ask me, especially facing bosses like Zakum or HT which will render you defenseless with their 1/1 attack. My DS pre nerf was able to regenerate the whole of my HP in just a few seconds after getting 1/1-ed.
[quote=Rust]Demon Slayer. Status resistance, some form of getting past DR (binding darkness), both of which Arans don't possess. Other than needing less funding to hit higher (and maybe some party support in the form of 20% resistance from Combo Barrier), I'd say Arans are inferior to Demon Slayers in bossing.[/quote]
Seconded. Maxed Binding Darkness can stun bosses for a good 20 seconds. On the other hand, Arans have higher survivability when bossing due to their Combo Drain. IIRC, it only needs 30 combo count to activate, doesn't have cooldowns and heal a good bit of HP. DS's Leech Aura has a cooldown of 1 minute, a recovery limit and is currently bugged. Raven Storm is our sole healing skill now.
Demon Slayer. Status resistance, some form of getting past DR (binding darkness), both of which Arans don't possess. Other than needing less funding to hit higher (and maybe some party support in the form of 20% resistance from Combo Barrier), I'd say Arans are inferior to Demon Slayers in bossing.
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The only reason that i like my Aran more than my DS is because of the health loss with skills. Unless there's some 4th job skill that i'm not aware of that cuts down on that. MP-ing while losing health and getting attacked= No bueno.
Wait you're asking if a class that has nothing special about it is better than a class that does 40% imbeded damage on bosses?
I see how it is JC...
Let's face-off on everything, and see who comes out on top?
Anyway, in all seriousness, I think Demon Slayers are better in general, and they win in most situations.
Obvious examples where they win are in Empress, and their final DPM (when they start capping on everything) is way higher than Aran's, even when we use Rolling Spin.
Demon Slayers because they are
[quote=jc1206]Which is better?[/quote]
JC you fail of course DS's are better only if they have the funding. It's so so so so much easier to fund an aran than a DS. But if you can get that funding on a DS to have at least 250k range you're good and you have way more survivability than an aran.
For example when fighting empress since that's the boss that everyone usually ends up fighting a DS can easily out survive an Aran.
Also Leech aura isn't glitched you just recast it and hit one monster whenever you need to heal. That resist that DS have is enough to out do an aran.
Also I've talked to some level 200 arans and they have problems soloing at empress. But my DS friend can solo fine lol
Demon Slayer: Higher Defense and Status Resist
Aran: Way higher damage and good survivability (you stop attacking, you die)
I find it easier to boss on my DS honestly higher base hp than a aran, status resist/def the one let down is finding how to achieve great dmg, after a whie on a aran you get a little irritated about that first attack you have to do before swings.
You really start to wonder why they dont have magic crash.
On a aran its easier to achieve good dmg.
But beside those reasons, you have good amount of def/status resist, to back you up, aran doesnt have that all it has defensive wise to me is Drain/high def.
Both great classes but Ds is way less of a hastle to boss with.
I have the same damage as my friend whos a ds and he always beats me in Mu lung dojo ranked mode
Im like wtf i cant even finsh
@aznstyles: Yesss those were the days. That skill was practically a lifesaver, no longer. No potions needed, the money saved. Good stuff there.
w/o funding, can't say which character is better.
Aran might be stronger than DS when we only consider about dmg, but DS is generally good and very stable.
w/ funding, Aran never catch up w/ DS.
[quote=Symbolics]@ramenrulz: That is true. About healing moves, I think it is not so good compared to Combo Drain. Raven Storm with a cd of 10 seconds and a bugged Leech Aura. 30% to guard an attack which regens 4% of hp. Ain't too reliable if you ask me, especially facing bosses like Zakum or HT which will render you defenseless with their 1/1 attack. My DS pre nerf was able to regenerate the whole of my HP in just a few seconds after getting 1/1-ed.[/quote]
Ahh yes let us remember the good days of when leech aura didnt have a ridiculous CD and was just a normal buff. I loved that skill and the nerf it killed DS for me
@ramenrulz: Hmm, I haven't maxed it, yeah. Was focusing on priority attack skills Never mind, DSes can avoid Zakum's 1/1 by just rushing through the body when the 1/1 animation started. That's how I survive.
My aran dies at bosses all the time. Annoying! Demon slayer ftw
@ramenrulz: That is true. About healing moves, I think it is not so good compared to Combo Drain. Raven Storm with a cd of 10 seconds and a bugged Leech Aura. 30% to guard an attack which regens 4% of hp. Ain't too reliable if you ask me, especially facing bosses like Zakum or HT which will render you defenseless with their 1/1 attack. My DS pre nerf was able to regenerate the whole of my HP in just a few seconds after getting 1/1-ed.
I agree with these peoples, ds
[quote=Rust]Demon Slayer. Status resistance, some form of getting past DR (binding darkness), both of which Arans don't possess. Other than needing less funding to hit higher (and maybe some party support in the form of 20% resistance from Combo Barrier), I'd say Arans are inferior to Demon Slayers in bossing.[/quote]
Seconded. Maxed Binding Darkness can stun bosses for a good 20 seconds. On the other hand, Arans have higher survivability when bossing due to their Combo Drain. IIRC, it only needs 30 combo count to activate, doesn't have cooldowns and heal a good bit of HP. DS's Leech Aura has a cooldown of 1 minute, a recovery limit and is currently bugged. Raven Storm is our sole healing skill now.
Demon Slayer. Status resistance, some form of getting past DR (binding darkness), both of which Arans don't possess. Other than needing less funding to hit higher (and maybe some party support in the form of 20% resistance from Combo Barrier), I'd say Arans are inferior to Demon Slayers in bossing.
Arans have the power but less variety in skills than the DS. So if you're going they both have the same range, stats, and equips I would say Ds