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Changing career choice

So I'm pretty much failing in all my my computer science classes, and I think I'm just going to drop out of school; I don't want to pay any more tuition fees for something I'm not even going to be good at or even get a good job in. My programming skills are lackluster and I can hardly read/write any code, I've been just copying my friends and its to the point where cheating won't even help anymore.

I was wondering whether there are any good career opportunities in the art department, I was going to start taking some art classes at a community college near me [color theory, basic design, basic drawing] then focus on a particular medium to build a resume, then move on to graphic design (maybe in a span of a year) or product design.

Good idea or terrible idea?
Anyone here go to an art school?

March 20, 2015

10 Comments • Newest first

koeipope213

What makes you think you can succeed in art if you're backing out on CS?

Reply March 24, 2015
juni

graphic design feels like its an overcrowded field and it seems its not valued as much as other fields (tho in general the art industry is not growing enough for everyone to have jobs) so the pay is naturally lower. tbh it feels like a somewhat unnecessary major to pursue when it can be self-taught pretty easily without much or any drawing skill.
product design sounds more attractive, in terms of potential pay too. industrial design, advertising, environmental design, transportation design, etc are other fields you can look into. with the knowledge you have already maybe you will do ok in one of these more technical fields.
i do go to art school, so i can say you do need substantial amount of drive and work ethic to succeed. communication and networking is probably the most important because connections land jobs faster than portfolio. it is not a terrible idea but choose your path carefully and do work hard

Reply March 23, 2015
TeenyRikku

There's logo design, branding packaging design, book cover design, magazine design etc in graphic design.I had a branding project 2 semesters ago, it was one of the hardest projects I've worked on. I had come up with what my food brand is going to be about (like what it stands for, purpose) then design posters promoting it and lastly design how the packening would look like. Only my posters came out looking good, my design for the packening was lacking. If you want to become a painter and have an art gallery, having a distinct style is good to have and I can imagine getting your name around is hard unless you know a lot of people in field.
And at first post, youtube only shows you how to do technical things like how to make a clipping mask. It doesn't teach you how to think when designing.

Reply March 21, 2015
OhKristi

[quote=QinusAxia]i guess i have it better then, lol. but unless you've experienced it yourself, i wouldn't go around calling it 'hardly worth the investment'. it's not really about trying to improve as fast as you can while in art school, it should be more about gaining fundamental skills and exploring in order to increase your art vocabulary and to expand your thinking. of course every assignment isn't going to be catered to your liking, that should be expected. the people who go into art school thinking that they're only there to do what they want are usually the students i see struggling and complaining. the 'restricted freedom' you mentioned which i assume are those assignments that don't interest an individual exists for a reason. it's hard to deal with when you have to do something you're not fond of, but it'll help you figure out what work field you want to work in and getting used to this early on is extremely beneficial.

besides, if you're going to do an assignment you hate just to get it over with, that's really bad decision making because you'll just get bored of it really quickly and won't gain much out of it. find a way to make it interesting and cater it to your liking while staying in bound with the assignment structure. that way, you'll actually care and grow. i guess a lot of it depends on the student as well and not just the teachers.

also, a lot of art school is about preparing a student enough so that they can self-learn after they graduate. that should be an art teacher's goal; they shouldn't be aiming to make you the best student ever in the short amount of time that they have.[/quote]

completely agree with this
just because it's art doesn't mean you should always be able to do whatever you want
protip you're not going to have that kind of freedom working as an artist, either

also, art school can be a good choice for you if you're genuinely convinced on following that path through to the end
(and not a good choice if this is just some fad that you're only momentarily interested in)
just make sure you pick out a legitimate and reputable school
again, if you think not being able to do what you want all the time is going to be an issue, you should think twice about joining before you end up dropping out

Reply March 20, 2015
Juxtaposition

[quote=QinusAxia]edit to @Juxtaposition : do you have a genuine interest in design/art? if you're doing it out of pure randomness, i think that's a really bad idea.

i guess i have it better then, lol. but unless you've experienced it yourself, i wouldn't go around calling it 'hardly worth the investment'. it's not really about trying to improve as fast as you can while in art school, it should be more about gaining fundamental skills and exploring in order to increase your art vocabulary and to expand your thinking. of course every assignment isn't going to be catered to your liking, that should be expected. the people who go into art school thinking that they're only there to do what they want are usually the students i see struggling and complaining. the 'restricted freedom' you mentioned which i assume are those assignments that don't interest an individual exists for a reason. it's hard to deal with when you have to do something you're not fond of, but it'll help you figure out what work field you want to work in and getting used to this early on is extremely beneficial.

besides, if you're going to do an assignment you hate just to get it over with, that's really bad decision making because you'll just get bored of it really quickly and won't gain much out of it. find a way to make it interesting and cater it to your liking while staying in bound with the assignment structure. that way, you'll actually care and grow. i guess a lot of it depends on the student as well and not just the teachers.

also, a lot of art school is about preparing a student enough so that they can self-learn after they graduate. that should be an art teacher's goal; they shouldn't be aiming to make you the best student ever in the short amount of time that they have.

@DragonBandit : i think you're misunderstanding what I mean when I say environment but whatever[/quote]

Yeah I was interested in getting into Architecture- which is sort of like art- my first year but my cousin told me [after taking it as a major] that it wasn't worth it so I went into a more technical career choice, wanted to get into engineering but I screwed up in one of my higher math classes and had to take an extra year if I wanted to get in to finishing my bachelors and didn't want to do that so another friend of mine recommended CS and cause I use the computer a lot I was like okay seems good enough but it was boring and tedious and I didn't really like it.

I also have some experience with art, I used to take private art classes and have like several oil paintings, very few with acrylic, some of them are okay others are terrible.
Also sketched a lot and understand shading, perspective, and some use with colors but most of it was like years ago and I forgot a lot of stuff.

I also like building stuff so I wanted to get into design.
I'm considering just being a NEET and living off welfare, seriously though I am lazy af.

Another friend of mine told me that art was just a form of money laundering cause minimalist art was easy to make and people could exchange art purchases through exhibitions with high amounts of money and that those big art stuff was all a big scam and you just had to know a lot of people for that, so I was wondering, how do I get into that stuff? The money laundering in art galleries cause you know art galleries are all private and transactions don't really get taxed.

I don't know I just know I'm going to fail my tests this week.

Reply March 20, 2015
McXcalibur

i dont wanna be a total D bag but going from CS to "the arts" is a huge drop in job opportunities and quality (a bachelors in CS is like top 3 most wanted degrees), sounds to me like you're just lazy, youre quitting because its "too hard" and thats an excuse for women.
but hey who cares, do what makes you happy i guess

Reply March 20, 2015 - edited
enoch129

@qinusaxia From what I've seen/heard of, teachers don't actually teach students how to improve on their work as fast they can. Instead of showing them and equipping them to self-learn as they graduate and pursue a career, they just assign them homework/school work without much guidance; resulting in restricted freedom due to the lack of skills learned and practicality into honing such skills.

Reply March 20, 2015 - edited
DemZak

Considering your initial dive into CS, do you/did you/ are you more interested in a math and science field?
Going from CS, or anything for that matter, and then failing to then wanting an Art Major is a very common freshmen/sophomore last ditch attempt at searching for what you want to pursue.
Often times it is best to re-evaluate your skill sets and research careers in finding one suitable for what you would find enjoyable, at least somewhat profitable, and plausible.

However, doing a year for a certificate or some sort at the CC level in Digital Media/Graphic Design could be worthwhile. I'd assume finding a job would be tough unless you make immediate use of your skills & build a portfolio and shove your skills into companies' faces. You'd have to be pretty good though. Lots of competition since it is quite easy to get into; so demand could be low in the field. It's always best research other alternative careers before throwing yourself under the bus. I'm sure the costs wouldn't draw nearly as close to students who graduate from a 4-year for-profit institute in Advanced Photoshop.

idk, gl m8.

Reply March 20, 2015 - edited
DragonBandit

Art is a ginormous waste of time and money. Please save yourself the years of regret and debt and pick something else to major in. An art degree is one of the lowest paying on avg degrees out there.
If your in the states join the military they will pay for your college. You can also pick a decent/good job that will give you experience for high paying civilian jobs.

@QinusAxia going into debt because of an "environment" at an art school is pretty dumb. It is something that should not be taken into consideration at all.

Reply March 20, 2015 - edited
enoch129

Art school is hardly ever worth the investment, unless it's a legitimately good one. What I mean is, most schools just teach you the sore basics in the beginning with only theory, not practice/hands-on. You essentially waste 2 years worth of tuition on things you can learn online (youtube, etc). Since you're going for graphic design, it shouldn't be bad. Try the art classes at the community college and see whether or not you would do that for the rest of your life.

Reply March 20, 2015 - edited