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Training in Future Perion Golems

For the high lvls who train at Golems - how much Hp pots do you use with only your own buffs? if you dont use any, how?

July 10, 2013

48 Comments • Newest first

jyyk

The question was answered already and I have a gauge on the HP pot-use efficiency when solo training at golems.
I'm gonna close the thread before further articulation and or flirting comments are posted. Furthermore, I will pretend I haven't started a topic in the DrK forums in the first place.

Reply July 12, 2013
ShadowWigWig

[quote=lmm616]I'm just talking about the basil-dark knight community, not the dark knight community in maplestory itself. I mean sometimes I'll see a thread in the DrK section where the OP has a totally valid question but 10 posts in a row by fellow DK's just giving him sarcasm like he's supposed to know the answer. Christ, can someone not be an asshat and just give him a nice response.[/quote]
I like you good sir. Move to Canada with me.

Reply July 12, 2013
lmm616

[quote=FatGuyInRL]I thought that was the night lord community.
I've talked to some pretty nice DrKs in my time.[/quote]

I'm just talking about the basil-dark knight community, not the dark knight community in maplestory itself. I mean sometimes I'll see a thread in the DrK section where the OP has a totally valid question but 10 posts in a row by fellow DK's just giving him sarcasm like he's supposed to know the answer. Christ, can someone not be an asshat and just give him a nice response.

Reply July 12, 2013
iChosenDream

Please don't defame that avatar.

Reply July 12, 2013
BrazenBlitz

[quote=lmm616]DrK's like you that try to be perfect and criticize everyone and always try to be right are the reasons why I mostly hate the DrK community and don't post alot in the DrK forum.[/quote]it's just coz ur a noob ass drk.

Reply July 12, 2013
lmm616

[quote=iVege]Why are you bringing hostility into this when I'm only talking about agreement and disagreement.[/quote]

DrK's like you that try to be perfect and criticize everyone and always try to be right are the reasons why I mostly hate the DrK community and don't post alot in the DrK forum.

Reply July 11, 2013
ShadowWigWig

[quote=iVege]Why are you bringing hostility into this when I'm only talking about agreement and disagreement.[/quote]

Because an argument can be as simple and harmless as a conversation. Such as this entire thread. Hopefully this will be locked soon, nothing productive is going on.

Reply July 11, 2013
DemonDausu

@iVege: Awesome. So don't even worry about that anymore, let's just have fun.

Are you certain all you want are tacos, 'cause I've got an appetite for a bit more than that..

Reply July 11, 2013
iVege

[quote=ShadowWigWig]Arguments don't have to be hostile. You also have to remember this is the internet [/quote]

Why are you bringing hostility into this when I'm only talking about agreement and disagreement.

Reply July 11, 2013
ShadowWigWig

[quote=iVege]That means we're arguing right now.

Even though we keep agreeing with each other.[/quote]

Arguments don't have to be hostile. You also have to remember this is the internet

Reply July 11, 2013
iVege

[quote=DemonDausu]Yes , yes & no.

More importantly, you should come to lunch with me.[/quote]

Fine. I will ask you why I had to re-read while we stuff our faces with taco.

Reply July 11, 2013
DemonDausu

@iVege: Yes , yes & no.

More importantly, you should come to lunch with me.

Reply July 11, 2013
iVege

[quote=DemonDausu]This is making me want tacos for some reason[/quote]

Did I understand your post properly? As in, did I interpret it the way you intended it to be interpreted?

Or was I expecting too much from you and my optimism made your post clever on its own?

Reply July 11, 2013
DemonDausu

@iVege: This is making me want tacos for some reason

Reply July 11, 2013
iVege

[quote=darkspawn980]i lost my -bleep- here

" which summons the Beholder than can use Aura "

also at the tentacles part.[/quote]

How horrible would it be if I just said "you need to hit a golem" after one and a half pages.

[quote=DemonDausu]lol I read it correctly the first time. She didn't mean the blue MP pots that heal your MP by 100points, but rather 100MP pots in general.[/quote]

Then why did you ask me to re-read. I asked if her 100 MP recovery item was still the Blue Potion. She might've been using Blue Pills before!

Reply July 11, 2013
DemonDausu

@iVege: lol I read it correctly the first time. She didn't mean the blue MP pots that heal your MP by 100points, but rather 100MP pots in general.

Reply July 11, 2013
darkspawn980

@iVege: i lost my -bleep- here

" which summons the Beholder than can use Aura "

also at the tentacles part.

Reply July 11, 2013
iVege

[quote=ShadowWigWig]Yup.[/quote]

That means we're arguing right now.

Even though we keep agreeing with each other.

Reply July 11, 2013
ShadowWigWig

[quote=iVege]Because an exchange of posts between two people = argument.[/quote]

Yup.

Reply July 11, 2013
iVege

[quote=ShadowWigWig]Aside from the pointless argument about Dark Impale vs. potions, Dark Knights have little trouble training in twilight perion because of our drain skill.[/quote]

Because an exchange of posts between two people = argument.

Reply July 11, 2013
ShadowWigWig

Aside from the pointless argument about Dark Impale vs. potions, Dark Knights have little trouble training in twilight perion because of our drain skill.

Reply July 11, 2013
iVege

[quote=DLiu456]Articulating with a fool will surely cause my brain to suffer as it'll decay my brain cells.[/quote]

At least your head doesn't explode, like I initially hypothesised.

[quote=DemonDausu]"You still use Blue Potions?"
I think you should reread what she said.[/quote]

I did and I've concluded that I didn't read it incorrectly. Maybe [b]you[/b] should re-read it and interpret it my way.

Reply July 11, 2013
DemonDausu

@iVege "You still use Blue Potions?"
I think you should reread what she said.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
DLiu456

@iVege: Articulating with a fool will surely cause my brain to suffer as it'll decay my brain cells.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
iVege

[quote=xxNeedANamex]Lol what is she trying to prove[/quote]

That your use of pots is not inversely proportional to your use of the Dark Impale button.

[quote=darkspawn980]man, gimme a break, i'm too lazy for this so late in the morning either way, efficient use of skills and positioning while training (in any map) reduces potion costs on a dark knight.[/quote]

Are you telling me to give you a break, or are you telling me to wait until it's early at night? Either way, yes, positioning matters a lot. The Dark Impale button can't help you position, though. I could Dark Impale the hell out of empty space and it would yield me 0 HP points unless I fall asleep with my finger on the Dark Impale button and then a monster spawns or walks into my hitbox. Anyway, since Dragon Wisdom triggers on hits and not skill uses, it is safe to assume (as with everything in existence <- and that too is an assumption <- and that too is an assumption <- ...) that it does not trigger when you don't hit monsters. Such as, when you hit empty space.

Then, we also have to make the assumption that you are not an idiot. Because if you were, then you wouldn't be using Dark Impale, but Slash Blast with no Final Attack (which is important, but has no button so it has no place in my post!). Heck, even normal attack. Since you're training at Twilight Perion and you're not an idiot, it is also safe to assume that you should be using Potato. Since Potato's hits can also trigger Dragon Wisdom, then is your usage of HP pots not also proportional to the usage of Potato? What about the Beholder button, which summons the Beholder than can use Aura and Revenge? What about recovery items that aren't potions? I could (maybe) go on, but I think you get the idea.

Also, there might be some confusion in my last post concerning my edit. I meant attacking the monster, and not inserting whatever into the monster's orifice(s), not attacking the monster's orifice, and not inserting whatever into the monster's orifice(s). This is assuming you have more than one tentacle. Though, I've always assumed that you've had more than one tentacle. By the way, the 's' in brackets is the result over tentacles over a spear, and not tentacles over a tentacle.

[quote=CatastrophicEnd]Can't tell if trolling or what.[/quote]

I'm not trolling as trolling is against the rules.

[quote=earl1993]someboddy needs a life.[/quote]

[url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2691207]You haven't seen nothin'![/url]

This is also an attempt to save my dying thread. Also, I'm referring to my arguments inside my replies to idiots, not my fabulous, unwasted efforts on the skill tables.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
earl1993

someboddy needs a life.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
darkspawn980

@iVege: man, gimme a break, i'm too lazy for this so late in the morning either way, efficient use of skills and positioning while training (in any map) reduces potion costs on a dark knight.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
xxNeedANamex

Lol what is she trying to prove

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
iVege

[quote=slapshot151]this girl is dumb[/quote]

Don't make me report you for rule #2![b][/b]![b][/b]!

[quote=DLiu456]u maek me dun g00f'd tree fiddy bad[/quote]

Your brain must have exploded from trying to decipher what I meant in post [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2697372/1/#44301431]44301431[/url]. It's so sad that you didn't even get to discuss it with me like @BlackxMist and @darkspawn980 did.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
DLiu456

[quote=iVege]Are you saying that you don't understand my overall point, after seeing Berserk, or are you saying you don't understand the point I made able unreliable descriptions? If the latter, then you should read Berserk's description.

What do you mean by "in golems"? Inside the Golem map? Inside the Golem monster? If inside the map, then yes, you are right. It would be an inefficient way to attack. If inside the monster (edit: as in attacking and not insertion of spear, or tentacles in your case, into orifice), then that would be irrelevant.[/quote]
u maek me dun g00f'd tree fiddy bad

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
iVege

[quote=BlackxMist]yea ive seen berserk i dont see what youre getting at[/quote]

Are you saying that you don't understand my overall point, after seeing Berserk, or are you saying you don't understand the point I made able unreliable descriptions? If the latter, then you should read Berserk's description.

[quote=darkspawn980]that's the thing however, for judgement not to trigger in golems, you'd have to be attacking inneficiently. with three mobs, 18 attacks, each with a 20% chance to trigger a heal (for up to three heals) the chances to heal are massive.[/quote]

What do you mean by "in golems"? Inside the Golem map? Inside the Golem monster? If inside the map, then yes, you are right. It would be an inefficient way to attack. If inside the monster (edit: as in attacking and not insertion of spear, or tentacles in your case, into orifice), then that would be irrelevant.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
darkspawn980

@iVege: that's the thing however, for judgement not to trigger in golems, you'd have to be attacking inneficiently. with three mobs, 18 attacks, each with a 20% chance to trigger a heal (for up to three heals) the chances to heal are massive.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
BlackxMist

@iVege: yea ive seen berserk i dont see what youre getting at

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
iVege

[quote=BlackxMist]http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Dragon-Knight-Skills.html#Dragon-Wisdom

it doesnt say "attacking" but youre an idiot if you dont get it[/quote]

It doesn't matter what the descriptions says, because they are unreliable. Have you seen Berserk?

[quote=darkspawn980]unfathomable scenarios where people somehow managed to not get judgement notwithstanding.[/quote]

It's not that they failed to receive Judgment. Trying to receive, but failing, and not even trying are two different things.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
darkspawn980

@iVege: unfathomable scenarios where people somehow managed to not get judgement notwithstanding.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
BlackxMist

[quote=iVege]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/attacking[/quote]

http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Dragon-Knight-Skills.html#Dragon-Wisdom

it doesnt say "attacking" but youre an idiot if you dont get it

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
iVege

[quote=BlackxMist]ok miss technical whats your definition of "attacking"[/quote]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/attacking

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
BlackxMist

@iVege: ok miss technical whats your definition of "attacking"

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
iVege

[quote=BlackxMist]dark knights have dragon wisdom[/quote]

Attacking doesn't trigger Dragon Wisdom.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
BlackxMist

[quote=iVege]You still use Blue Potions?

Attacking doesn't really do anything.[/quote]

dark knights have dragon wisdom

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
iVege

[quote=MissTabbeh]As long as I'm attacking, my HP will stay consistently full. I guess I'd use 1-5 HP pots for around every 100 MP ones I use.[/quote]

You still use Blue Potions?

[quote=darkspawn980]well, it's the truth though, the more you attack, the less you require to pot, wether you can completely cancel the requirement to pot is dependent on a few more factors[/quote]

Attacking doesn't really do anything.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
darkspawn980

@iVege: well, it's the truth though, the more you attack, the less you require to pot, wether you can completely cancel the requirement to pot is dependent on a few more factors

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
MissTabbeh

As long as I'm attacking, my HP will stay consistently full. I guess I'd use 1-5 HP pots for around every 100 MP ones I use.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
iVege

[quote=darkspawn980]in what regards?[/quote]

Golems.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
iVege

[quote=darkspawn980]your use of pots is inversely proportional to your use of the dark impale button.[/quote]

You're wrong.

[quote=Dr4gonxLord]None, Self Heal on my Pally ; ][/quote]

You're irrelevant.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
darkspawn980

your use of pots is inversely proportional to your use of the dark impale button.

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited
BornNew

I don't use hp pots there, how? A skill called dragon wisdom(passive drain), attack the monsters in groups for a higher chance of drain to take effect
whenever you need to rebuff get to full hp use one buff, attack the group until you have full hp do one buff rinse and repeat

Reply July 11, 2013 - edited