General

@MidnightDark: I heard. Before they never showed so I thought they were removed from ours, so I'm glad.

@Mirabosh: Oh no trust me, I know the powr of RA tyrant combined, thats why I am for it to be my next upgrade and I have my ra ready. I just felt dissapointed before when our boss damage wasn't on the weapon because I realized I can make a few tiny upgrades for cheap, and get a much bigget set effect with out ra. I was hoping the boss damage can come back so my ra upgrade feels a lot more worth while, and it did. I also, don't want ot depend on dojo forever though I always keep it open and using it now even. I don't count temporary power usually is all.

The bonuses that are being displayed now were always there, they simply weren't being [i]shown[/i] on the items' tooltips, which is what this patch is fixing. @izama

[quote=puretppc]Wow that's nice. Won't be able to get one

Also, what happens if you Chaos scroll it? Does it add/remove boss damage?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure you can't change the boss damage on it. Should be like % knockback from crossbows and % HP from CHTP / Dominator pendants

@Izama Oh okay... my bad. Yea, before today tyrant / RA was a luxury, but I still think you underestimate the power of tyrant and RA combined. It's not only about the attack, tyrant set also adds 500 BASE stat. Plus, visitor set wasn't even out
Empress + Visitor is great, but it completely removes the possibility of using dojo gloves, which is also a great % boss source. I guess if you can't be bothered with dojo and you're not aiming for perfection, it's the set for you.

@Mirabosh: You missed what my post said. I said RA missing its effect was bad. Now with its effect its worth while upgrade easy. Before to make it worth using would require a large amount of work for the cost, and it was much simpler to use visitor + empress or a few other combinations that would guarantee you 60% boss and a large attack bonus to make up for lack of fafnir. Now that it has its bonus back, its great and worth while. I'm basically saying its not an OP change, that it should of been there, since people were complaining its not fair and I think it is fair.

@infinteZero: You was underestimate the price of a new item set. Fully enhanced tyrants, and all the other changes you suggest is anything but cheap, nor is it even close to the price tag of full perfecting any other option.

i'm not over estimating the visitor stuff. PQ's are infinite, its given from a pq. Even if it had a low rate, you can get it with some work and no cost to you.

[quote=Kentacle]YAY Finally!

Root Abyss set equips now display their bonus stats in their tooltips.

Weapons: Boss Damage +30%, Ignore Monster DEF +10%
Hats: Ignore Monster DEF +10%
Tops: Ignore Monster DEF +5%
Bottoms: Ignore Monster DEF +5%[/quote]

Wow that's nice. Won't be able to get one

Also, what happens if you Chaos scroll it? Does it add/remove boss damage?

[quote=izama]@infinteZero: See my other post.[/quote]

your under estimating the price of a new item set that can give 30% boss
and over estimating its drop rates
+the visitor is lv180 equips

[quote=izama]@noobiest123: Yes really. Empress + full visitor already squashes it by a mile. It's slightly higher attack means jack by then. Not to mention you can't go full fafnir with ANY other set that will give you more than 30% boss. Having the boss on it is what made it worth getting over other sets.

as much as I always wanted a top and bottom, 60% boss > top and bottom extra stat

The set wasn't worth getting when you can make better combinations with other things, people weree just too ignorant to see the other combinations.[/quote]

The RA set by itself is 60% boss and 30% pdr... not to mention it has higher attack, it has top/bottom, it allows you to use tyrant AND 3-set visitor, although 3-set visitor isn't really worth it with all these tier 3 rings coming out. Alien and empress set will remain the unfunded's solution, but RA / Tyrant is still the best combination by far.

@infinteZero: See my other post.

[quote=izama]@noobiest123: Yes really. Empress + full visitor already squashes it by a mile. It's slightly higher attack means jack by then. Not to mention you can't go full fafnir with ANY other set that will give you more than 30% boss. Having the boss on it is what made it worth getting over other sets.

as much as I always wanted a top and bottom, 60% boss > top and bottom extra stat

The set wasn't worth getting when you can make better combinations with other things, people weree just too ignorant to see the other combinations.[/quote]

does empress staff have default 30% boss? not from set effect to?

even so thing that over kills it lets go with mages: empress staff 163att fafnir staff 204 (most ones i seen are 205) not to point out the extra main and 2nd stat boost
-set effect fafnir offers more
-potential lookin at extra 36% int from were overall is (again were talking bout mages but same for all classes 30%~36% more main stat)
-room in set for other power items:
tyrant fully enhanced tyrant has like 200att/m.att (15enhances)
room for dojo gloves

@noobiest123: I'm not saying they're useless. I'm saying they're not as worth upgrading compared to the price if they lack boss. Empress equips aren't that bad either. I don't know why people all of a sudden think they're only for unfunded people.
If fafnir had no boss damage, the best you can do is full fafnir , tyrant or nova set, dojo gloves (12%boss 15% damage, this does not add up to 27% boss), and partial visitor.
In the end yea you have some nice potential for upgrading, since EE'ed out tyrants will provide amazing stats, and fafnir has more attack than empress alone, but at the same time you make upgrading pretty excruciating on yourself.
It's a lot easier to just get a full empress and full visitor whos items aren't that bad since they have 15 slots each and a large amount of stats, then you can easily get 60% boss and 105 atk. It won't even cost nearly as much as what the others cost yet provide a lot better set bonus to work with.

@bubblecup118: oh that seems impossible for me

[quote=probin]i dont even know how to get RA gear </3 you kill chaos root abyss and get there coins right?[/quote]

Kill the chaos boss, if you are lucky the equipment/weapon may drop

i dont even know how to get RA gear </3 you kill chaos root abyss and get there coins right?

[quote=izama]@noobiest123: Yes really. Empress + full visitor already squashes it by a mile. It's slightly higher attack means jack by then. Not to mention you can't go full fafnir with ANY other set that will give you more than 30% boss. Having the boss on it is what made it worth getting over other sets.

as much as I always wanted a top and bottom, 60% boss > top and bottom extra stat

The set wasn't worth getting when you can make better combinations with other things, people weree just too ignorant to see the other combinations.[/quote]

The thing is, the emp equips aren't that good. You can replace 3 pieces of that set with Tyrants which is like maplesteroids. Also, the alien set's ring cannot be potted, and it also requires you to replace the emp set's helmet for the alien set's helmet. You're correct where it's cheaper, maybe not even... "Alien Fragment Set - Each piece requires Platinum Scissors of Karma to trade it.&quot but it is definitely not better

[quote=bubblecup118]This is the ultimate combo for set effects to my understand

- 4 set Root Abyss Level 150 equip (hat, top, bottom, weapon)
- Tyrant Level 150 cape, belt and shoe
- Alien Equips Level 180, earring, pendant and ring

<3[/quote]
Alien Fragment Ring: Level: 180, STR/DEX/INT/LUK +10, Weapon/Magic DEF +200, Max HP/MP +60, no upgrade slots
as far as ring goes that parts best left out no slots= no potential means no 36% main stat alot tier 3 rings with this patch from what i here

Alien Fragment Earrings: Level: 180, STR/DEX/INT/LUK +20, Weapon/Magic DEF +45, Max MP +60, Accuracy +5, Upgrade slots (unhammered): 5
if you can get a pair of fearless they could potentially be 10x better scrolled

[quote=izama]@noobiest123: Yes really. Empress + full visitor already squashes it by a mile. It's slightly higher attack means jack by then. Not to mention you can't go full fafnir with ANY other set that will give you more than 30% boss. Having the boss on it is what made it worth getting over other sets.

as much as I always wanted a top and bottom, 60% boss > top and bottom extra stat

The set wasn't worth getting when you can make better combinations with other things, people weree just too ignorant to see the other combinations.[/quote]

If youre talking about 180 visitor plus empress being better than RA cuz 60% boss youre wrong, because youre missing out on a dojo glove and top/bot too

@noobiest123: Yes really. Empress + full visitor already squashes it by a mile. It's slightly higher attack means jack by then. Not to mention you can't go full fafnir with ANY other set that will give you more than 30% boss. Having the boss on it is what made it worth getting over other sets.

as much as I always wanted a top and bottom, 60% boss > top and bottom extra stat

The set wasn't worth getting when you can make better combinations with other things, people weree just too ignorant to see the other combinations.

[quote=noobiest123]"Weapons: Boss Damage +30%, Ignore Monster DEF +10%"...
so now you can have: 30% boss, 25% pdr, 30% boss, 25% boss neb, 30% boss (from bonus eff), 10% pdr (from bonus eff)... that makes it that fanfirs can have 35% pdr and 115% boss now? may the funded get op-er and the noobs not get anything[/quote]

potential wise you could get alot more out your weapon legendary items 3tier can have
40% 35% or 30% boss damage (not sure about pdr) but with right cubes you could end up with max of like 120%boss damage just from potential giving luck

This is the ultimate combo for set effects to my understand

- 4 set Root Abyss Level 150 equip (hat, top, bottom, weapon)
- Tyrant Level 150 cape, belt and shoe
- Alien Equips Level 180, earring, pendant and ring

<3

[quote=izama]In kms the weapons were always like that. With out the boss damage they aren't that special. Yea they give a nice atk but you can get a better combination of gear for cheaper.[/quote]

not really. atm fanfir + tyrant is top tier because of how the 2 sets' equips dont overlap

[quote=xbeasttamer]so full ra set gives 60%boss total now? [/quote]

It always gave 60% boss damage, just that the text was missing but the effect was there

where did u get this info from?Update notes?

[quote=Kentacle]YAY Finally!

Root Abyss set equips now display their bonus stats in their tooltips.

Weapons: Boss Damage +30%, Ignore Monster DEF +10%
Hats: Ignore Monster DEF +10%
Tops: Ignore Monster DEF +5%
Bottoms: Ignore Monster DEF +5%[/quote]

confusion is super effected? im lost whats this mean?

RA full set ends up with 60%boss? 30%ignore def and the other stats they gave o.o

I dontget it
The lv 150 set?

I have the full set, it gives more than 50 att and 30 boss?

[quote=noobiest123]"Weapons: Boss Damage +30%, Ignore Monster DEF +10%"...
so now you can have: 30% boss, 25% pdr, 30% boss, 25% boss neb, 30% boss (from bonus eff), 10% pdr (from bonus eff)... that makes it that fanfirs can have 35% pdr and 115% boss now? may the funded get op-er and the noobs not get anything[/quote]

In kms the weapons were always like that. With out the boss damage they aren't that special. Yea they give a nice atk but you can get a better combination of gear for cheaper.

[quote=MidnightDark]"Display" which means that the bonuses were there even before now.[/quote]

haha yeah i just read that properly

"Weapons: Boss Damage +30%, Ignore Monster DEF +10%"...
so now you can have: 30% boss, 25% pdr, 30% boss, 25% boss neb, 30% boss (from bonus eff), 10% pdr (from bonus eff)... that makes it that fanfirs can have 35% pdr and 115% boss now? may the funded get op-er and the noobs not get anything

so full ra set gives 60%boss total now?

"Display" which means that the bonuses were there even before now.

-polishes RA gear- Finally, my dear babies <3

Predicted increases in price for the weapons?

Nice, too bad 99.9% of us will never be able to obtain one!