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Hey Guys,
I am in look for a main recently, after finding out that i cant fund my NL, because apparently your poop needs to be golden
in order to do that. So I decided on a dualblade because i heard he i easier to fund. I have around 2-3 bil. I was wondering if u guys would
recommend me to open job advance and immediatly have my NL become a lvl.123( Blade Lord. Or if i should make a dualblade in a
different character slot, incase NL get the best revamp in maple history.
TY, your answer is valuable.
P.S i actually want to get like a good answer from like people who have played both or have been in my situation before
EDIT: i have a full 8th anni set if i open job advance, minus the 8th anni weapon, which stops me from gettting the 8th set effect( 17 wep attk, and 25 all stats)
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@nikeball123: Then you don't know prices well, lol. Also, how are you doing after you faked being scammed?
DB if funded, NL if not. NL much easier to fund, my range increased while I was a NL and my death sender charm was clean. My claw was the i little bit worse than my dagger. Also bossing is much easier as NL because they aren't beside the boss at all times. I love the playstyle of DB thats why I prefer DB, but if you want easier to fund and higher damage I suggest NL,
[quote=AntiSenpai]@lotusflower: Look, just cause your Night lord was garbage and couldn't take a hit doesn't mean everyone is in the same boat as you. So "son" take yourself and your un-experienced ass out of here until you're able to have a argument/debate without ending it with a childish remark.[/quote]
I'm in the same boat with @iDivideZer0 here, curious on how is Night Lord tanky?
I agree that I didn't beef up my Night Lord to the point where he has 9999 def or anything and isn't Omgwtfbbqhax, but I find them as massive pot waster constantly needing to heal when I get hit in the later levels
[quote=AntiSenpai]@lotusflower: In windia a 15% att Charm is 1.5bil, Night lords are not squishy, things have changed. Night lord is better than Shadower in every respect, you may do higher numbers due to your %s on your attacks but you hit slow as hell even with SI/MPE pots. It's pretty obvious you're extremely biased but I've played/mained all of the explorer thieves so I have some backing to what I say. Night lord is by far one of the best bossing classes and great for training.[/quote]
What? :o It's like 3b lol
[quote=AntiSenpai]@lotusflower: In windia a 15% att Charm is 1.5bil, Night lords are not squishy, things have changed. Night lord is better than Shadower in every respect, you may do higher numbers due to your %s on your attacks but you hit slow as hell even with SI/MPE pots. It's pretty obvious you're extremely biased but I've played/mained all of the explorer thieves so I have some backing to what I say. Night lord is by far one of the best bossing classes and great for training.[/quote]
Out of curiosity, care to explain how NL's beat shads in survability?
@lotusflower: Look, just cause your Night lord was garbage and couldn't take a hit doesn't mean everyone is in the same boat as you. So "son" take yourself and your un-experienced ass out of here until you're able to have a argument/debate without ending it with a childish remark.
[quote=killerspoon1]Ummm... is there a chance that NL will recieve a revamp, if NightWalker come out really OP.
Cuz that was one of the things i was counting on
LukLocked TY for giving such good advice, i have decided to stick to my NL. HE is the class i love and i believe many others agree with me also
TY everyone for helping me pick a class that i will main.
TY <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3[/quote]
Stop banking on a revamp for nl.
They just got one and it's made their value increase significantly.
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Night Lord might be slightly cheaper than a Dual Blade because DB needs a katara as well. Dagger is almost always more expensive than a claw also, and Night Lords aren't that weak. I have pretty much the same equips on my DB and NL and the NL is way better.
I am way biased to NL though because a dexless assassin was my first main, my highest level, and my favorite char to ever play back in the glory days.
@killerspoon1 a wise choice. Have fun with NL, like everyone who has one does.
Ummm... is there a chance that NL will recieve a revamp, if NightWalker come out really OP.
Cuz that was one of the things i was counting on
LukLocked TY for giving such good advice, i have decided to stick to my NL. HE is the class i love and i believe many others agree with me also
TY everyone for helping me pick a class that i will main.
TY <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Here's the simple fact.
OP would have either buy a new claw and get prime service, buy a new claw and save for event scrolls +8,9 or 10, OR he'd have to buy a scrolled claw at ridiculous prices.
THEN comes the death sender charm. 1.5b as @AntiSenpai had said is about right BUT only if you haggle with people because everyone is trying to get their desired price and people are definitely, without question, stupid. Same would be true with any other class so...
OP has no choice but to buy a fresh weapon and spell trace it. With this said, it would be better to go nl. Why?
1. Even if you fork over the meso for a death sender, it's a finalized equip. Katara would need yolo scroll and cubes. Same with dkj.
2. idk where OP is from but claws and daggers here in windia are evening out in price so getting a new claw looks more and more attractive with each passing cvel run.
3. NLs can be squishy unfunded. Funded is no problem but with OP's budget and in consideration of points 1 and 2, if OP really cares, he can spend the time to get the vampire skill, something very valuable to nls who aren't stupidly loaded.
4. As was said, nls have exp increase from that showdown skill iirc. It's not bad and assassin's mark helps a lot in training. Shadower doesn't have it that easy, nor does db. Not to say they can't train but training an nl is easier than those two.
In the end though, does OP want the most bang for his buck or will he choose a class he loves(if it isn't nl already XD )?
In terms of early-game potential, NL wins handsdown. Showdown gives nice % exp/drop, has nice %damage. Quad throw is also really nice at 390%(? somewhere around there, I forget) damage allowing you to hit higher opposed to DB's 200% phantom blow before hypers. Main con I see is survivability which can be remedied with link skills.
Only reason as to why you'd be a DB in your case is either;
a) playstyle
b) survivability
c) asura
@NoMoreHeros: I partially mentioned them when i mentioned prices, which is what the Op was worried about. I also did not go into detail about it because The Op did not seem interested in the class due to him not mentioning it. Now please, get off my case, my reasoning was based off what the OP wanted.
[quote=AntiSenpai]@NoMoreHeros: I'm not biased, I gave info based on what I've played and accomplished. He was just gung ho with Shadower, I gave reasons about the others, his was only putting down NL and pushing Shadower,[/quote]
He went gung ho because you hadn't mentioned Shadower as a viable class in your original post; OP didn't say he doesn't want to play Shadowers, and with OP's current funding, a Shadower would actually be a very viable option for him. If you say you've played and mained all thief classes at some point, including Shadower, I'd expect to find a few sentences talking about a Shadower in your original statement.
@NoMoreHeros: I'm not biased, I gave info based on what I've played and accomplished. He was just gung ho with Shadower, I gave reasons about the others, his was only putting down NL and pushing Shadower,
@AntiSenpai you sound pretty biased yourself, pal.
@OP play whichever class appeals to you more, for some it is NL and DB because of speed and mobility, for others it is Shadower because of survivability and strong sustained damage with low funding. You shouldn't worry too much about your 2-3 bil funding, because if you don't quit, you'll eventually get more money. Just play what you want to play.
Honestly I would just stay with NL, although they do take some meso to fund, they actually have really good %damage in terms of showdown and quad throw. Fast leveling with showdown and also if training is a problem get a kaiser and cannoneer free 25% hp. Stars might be kinda expensive, but you can just make balanced furies yourself and save that money.
@lotusflower: In windia a 15% att Charm is 1.5bil, Night lords are not squishy, things have changed. Night lord is better than Shadower in every respect, you may do higher numbers due to your %s on your attacks but you hit slow as hell even with SI/MPE pots. It's pretty obvious you're extremely biased but I've played/mained all of the explorer thieves so I have some backing to what I say. Night lord is by far one of the best bossing classes and great for training.
Dual blade is a very bad idea, It takes 4 times more meso to be on par with a Night Lord damage wise. If you hit cap though Dual Blade is better but if you're saying you have a lack of meso then it's irrelevant to you. Night Lord is by far the easiest thief to fund, Claws are expensive but Dagger/Katara or Dagger/Shield is going to cost more meso. Night lord is the best and easiest explorer thief to boss with as well and also gets extra exp with 4th job skill. Dual Blade, Kaiser, and Phantom are the classes for godly funded 300+bil. So I'd stick with the lower tier of classes until you get a lot of funds or quit.
In 1st job, go a sindit route and add into Lucky 7 to make it go faster then job advance into a Bandit since Chief Bandits are amazing in 3rd job and then when you get to 101, job change into Dual Blade for 10mil or a job adv coin. That's what I did just recently.