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Clean slates and Diligence

Does diligence affect the clean slates % of passing?

August 16, 2014

23 Comments • Newest first

Axnslicer

[quote=Ness]Would 1000~2000 be sufficient.[/quote]

Yeah, that should be plenty. The chances of the data shifting by 100 successes every 1000 trials is quite small.

Reply August 19, 2014
Ness

[quote=Axnslicer]First google hit, a thread where you say you doubt that diligence affects scroll traces. The irony.

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2829316/1/Does_diligence_affect_spell_traces_.html

You've clearly changed your mind, but I won't until someone uses a statistically significant number of 15% spell traces on random equips with level 100 diligence, and shows that 1/4 work on average.[/quote]

Would 1000~2000 be sufficient.

Reply August 19, 2014
Axnslicer

[quote=Ness]Oh, I see where you're coming from. Sorry for the previous comments.

Though, this page has been taken as proof by others who do seem to understand the language and play the Korean version, so I choose to side with them.

Other threads on the topic can be found by googling whether spell traces work with diligence.[/quote]

First google hit, a thread where you say you doubt that diligence affects scroll traces. The irony.

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2829316/1/Does_diligence_affect_spell_traces_.html

You've clearly changed your mind, but I won't until someone uses a statistically significant number of 15% spell traces on random equips with level 100 diligence, and shows that 1/4 work on average.

Reply August 19, 2014 - edited
Ness

[quote=Axnslicer]The part where I can't confirm it for myself. Look, if you want me to accept your evidence using that logic, I could put up some random thing in Greek and claim it says whatever I want. Would you be inclined to believe me then? I'm not even saying you're lying, it's perfectly possible that you've misinterpreted the statement yourself, but since I can't read it there's no way for me to verify it, and therefore I can't accept it as evidence that diligence works with scroll traces.[/quote]

Oh, I see where you're coming from. Sorry for the previous comments.

Though, this page has been taken as proof by others who do seem to understand the language and play the Korean version, so I choose to side with them.

Other threads on the topic can be found by googling whether spell traces work with diligence.

Reply August 19, 2014 - edited
Lid0r

[quote=closetoshady]What about gollux scrolls?[/quote]

70% on level 100 dilligence

Reply August 19, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

@Ness: The part where I can't confirm it for myself. Look, if you want me to accept your evidence using that logic, I could put up some random thing in Greek and claim it says whatever I want. Would you be inclined to believe me then? I'm not even saying you're lying, it's perfectly possible that you've misinterpreted the statement yourself, but since I can't read it there's no way for me to verify it, and therefore I can't accept it as evidence that diligence works with scroll traces.

Reply August 19, 2014 - edited
ltachifire

[quote=Axnslicer]Do I look like I can translate Korean? I think it's not unreasonable to expect your evidence to be in English.[/quote]

I think it's not unreasonable for his evidence to be in Korean.

Reply August 18, 2014 - edited
closetoshady

What about gollux scrolls?

Reply August 18, 2014 - edited
twopointonefour

Well when they release the Fever time for Scroll traces in GMS, we'll see if they're 100% success rate for anyone with level 50 Diligence.

Reply August 18, 2014 - edited
Ness

[quote=Axnslicer]Do I look like I can translate Korean? I think it's not unreasonable to expect your evidence to be in English.[/quote]

What part of "Spell Traces are 'orders to use as a trail order'" don't you understand.

Reply August 18, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=Ness]Because word for word translations actually exist, right.[/quote]

Do I look like I can translate Korean? I think it's not unreasonable to expect your evidence to be in English.

Reply August 18, 2014 - edited
Ness

[quote=Axnslicer]I'm sorry, that translation doesn't even contain spell traces in it.[/quote]

Because word for word translations actually exist, right.

Reply August 17, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

@Ness: I'm sorry, that translation doesn't even contain spell traces in it.

Reply August 17, 2014 - edited
Ness

[quote=Axnslicer]I very much doubt that, has anyone actually tested it?[/quote]

http://maplestory.nexon.com/MapleStory/Page/Gnx.aspx?URL=HelpDesk/FAQBoard&maskPageType=2&oidArticle=7623

They talk about how "orders to use as a trail order" (translated) are affected by diligence.

Reply August 17, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=Ness][url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=53900]Here's a list of special scrolls on here.[/url]

Diligence works with spell traces.[/quote]

I very much doubt that, has anyone actually tested it?

Reply August 17, 2014 - edited
RemixDeluxe

[quote=Ness]15% spell trace your fafnir weapons.[/quote]

Heres a screenshot of everything I got (yes I own a fafnir sword, I just dont have it equipped)

[url=]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87121071/Maple0001.jpg[/url]

Anything else for spell tracing? What other scrolls do you suggest for the rest?

Reply August 16, 2014 - edited
Ness

[quote=RemixDeluxe]That is greatly dissapointing, all this time waiting and waiting for that special day to get to lv 100.

Anyways as far as equips go which is worth spell tracing? For my gollux equips I'm gonna gollux scroll them, obviously. Just not sure what to use on everything else.[/quote]

15% spell trace your fafnir weapons.

Reply August 16, 2014 - edited
RemixDeluxe

[quote=Ness][url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=53900]Here's a list of special scrolls on here.[/url]

Diligence works with spell traces.[/quote]

That is greatly dissapointing, all this time waiting and waiting for that special day to get to lv 100.

Anyways as far as equips go which is worth spell tracing? For my gollux equips I'm gonna gollux scroll them, obviously. Just not sure what to use on everything else.

Reply August 16, 2014 - edited
Ness

[url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=53900]Here's a list of special scrolls on here.[/url]

Diligence works with spell traces.

Reply August 16, 2014 - edited
RemixDeluxe

I've been meaning to ask this question for a long time now. I've been working on my traits daily to achieve Lv 100 in all areas including diligence. I've been stockpiling on Clean Slate Scroll 10% until I got my diligence to Lv 100 (currently at Lv 70), for something that takes so long to work for why is it so limited. In fact what scrolls does diligence give a bonus for if not clean slate?

Reply August 16, 2014 - edited
asher1111

No, it is not supposed to affect the pass rate of css

Reply August 16, 2014 - edited
Fryber

Shouldn't matter because of how ass the pass rate is to begin with.

Reply August 16, 2014 - edited
XcoldshadowX

It's not supposed to, but considering how often I've passed css 10%s it might.

Reply August 16, 2014 - edited