Advanced or enhanceme scrolls or starforce tyrant equips?
Which is the easier way to get to 7+ on a tyrant equip? I heard Cygnus drops +2 ~ +5 star enhancement scrolls. Or is it better to use starforce enhancements?
edit: Messy title.
April 14, 2015
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@Axnslicer: o lf>dupes in YMCK
[quote=aznstyles]@Axnslicer: wot...shields say at 1:150 are 600m, AEEs are pretty much worth nothing, i believe it has 50%chance and 40% chance for the 6th and 7th star respectively. So id say about 5shields total which is 3b. 3b cant even buy you 1 no boom.<<<This is all YMCK prices, if its scania or somewhere with a lot of dupes idk[/quote]
No booms are a lot cheaper than 3 B in Bera.
@Axnslicer: wot...shields say at 1:150 are 600m, AEEs are pretty much worth nothing, i believe it has 50%chance and 40% chance for the 6th and 7th star respectively. So id say about 5shields total which is 3b. 3b cant even buy you 1 no boom.<<<This is all YMCK prices, if its scania or somewhere with a lot of dupes idk
[quote=laurico]Superior shielding wards can only be used until 7 enhancements, and from 5 to 7 enhancements using superior shielding wards+AEE is much cheaper than no boom AEE+ guardian.[/quote]
that's not true when no booms are less than 1bil, like they are in scania/big worlds filled with hackers
[quote=laurico]Superior shielding wards can only be used until 7 enhancements, and from 5 to 7 enhancements using superior shielding wards+AEE is much cheaper than no boom AEE+ guardian.[/quote]
That is not true in Bera. At least not if you're buying the wards with NX.
[quote=Axnslicer]4k NX > 1.8k NX. When the value of 2.2k NX multiplied by the expected number of trials/success outweighs the value of the no boom AEE, then you start using no booms. For many worlds the tipping point is between 40%-20% success rate.[/quote]
Superior shielding wards can only be used until 7 enhancements, and from 5 to 7 enhancements using superior shielding wards+AEE is much cheaper than no boom AEE+ guardian.
[quote=aznstyles]But AEE and shields are cheaper? 4k nx per shield[/quote]
6k NX > 1.8k NX. When the value of 4.2k NX multiplied by the expected number of trials/success outweighs the value of the no boom AEE, then you start using no booms. For many worlds the tipping point is between 40%-20% success rate.
[quote=jacob1248]Guardian scrolls make it so you don't lose the scroll if it fails. Since no booms are like 4 bill and guardians are 1.8k nx, it's way cheaper to use no booms with guardians.[/quote]
But AEE and shields are cheaper? 4k nx per shield
Starforce shoes/belt to 7 then no boom the rest.
yolo starforce cape to 10
[quote=WowChowMein]Why would you no boom + guardian... I'm sure you mean regular AEE + guardian[/quote]
Guardian scrolls make it so you don't lose the scroll if it fails. Since no booms are like 4 bill and guardians are 1.8k nx, it's way cheaper to use no booms with guardians.
If you double click cygnus, she apparently can drop things like unique pot scrolls and the 2~5 star AEEs that you mentioned, but I've killed her so many times with high %drop rate, I haven't seen a single thing like that drop.
[quote=Ruew]at the moment, at least in scania, it's probably cheaper to use no booms + guardians from 5 stars+[/quote]
Why would you no boom + guardian... I'm sure you mean regular AEE + guardian
I 5 star my tyrants first. Then No Boom AEE 5+ because its cheaper overall in my world due to the meso price of each no boom.
at the moment, at least in scania, it's probably cheaper to use no booms + guardians from 5 stars+
Tyrant Cape: You could buy a 5 star tyrant cape at a cheap price these days. From there, you can use superior wards + regular AEES for 5~7 stars. You can then use star force or no boom AEEs for anything pass 7 stars. Tyrant capes are easily replaceable if you happen to explode them via star force.
Tyrant Gloves, Belt, Shoe: 5 Star EE these ones. Then use superior wards + regular AEEs for 5~7 stars. Then no boom AEEs from there. It's very costly to replace these equips if you explode them.
If you already have a 5 star, just drop it on unless it booms. For capes, I would star force to around 8-10 and then use no booms. For shoes/belt, 5 star ee, then ward to 7, no boom past that.
I'd go.. with 5 star enhancement scroll, then superior protection scroll for the 6-7th star.
Unless you're extremely lucky.. It might eat a ton of mesos for star forcing to 5 stars