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Advanced or enhanceme scrolls or starforce tyrant equips?

Which is the easier way to get to 7+ on a tyrant equip? I heard Cygnus drops +2 ~ +5 star enhancement scrolls. Or is it better to use starforce enhancements?

edit: Messy title.

April 14, 2015

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Axnslicer

[quote=aznstyles]@Axnslicer: wot...shields say at 1:150 are 600m, AEEs are pretty much worth nothing, i believe it has 50%chance and 40% chance for the 6th and 7th star respectively. So id say about 5shields total which is 3b. 3b cant even buy you 1 no boom.<<<This is all YMCK prices, if its scania or somewhere with a lot of dupes idk[/quote]

No booms are a lot cheaper than 3 B in Bera.

Reply April 15, 2015
aznstyles

@Axnslicer: wot...shields say at 1:150 are 600m, AEEs are pretty much worth nothing, i believe it has 50%chance and 40% chance for the 6th and 7th star respectively. So id say about 5shields total which is 3b. 3b cant even buy you 1 no boom.<<<This is all YMCK prices, if its scania or somewhere with a lot of dupes idk

Reply April 14, 2015
Ruew

[quote=laurico]Superior shielding wards can only be used until 7 enhancements, and from 5 to 7 enhancements using superior shielding wards+AEE is much cheaper than no boom AEE+ guardian.[/quote]

that's not true when no booms are less than 1bil, like they are in scania/big worlds filled with hackers

Reply April 14, 2015
Axnslicer

[quote=laurico]Superior shielding wards can only be used until 7 enhancements, and from 5 to 7 enhancements using superior shielding wards+AEE is much cheaper than no boom AEE+ guardian.[/quote]

That is not true in Bera. At least not if you're buying the wards with NX.

Reply April 14, 2015
laurico

[quote=Axnslicer]4k NX > 1.8k NX. When the value of 2.2k NX multiplied by the expected number of trials/success outweighs the value of the no boom AEE, then you start using no booms. For many worlds the tipping point is between 40%-20% success rate.[/quote]

Superior shielding wards can only be used until 7 enhancements, and from 5 to 7 enhancements using superior shielding wards+AEE is much cheaper than no boom AEE+ guardian.

Reply April 14, 2015
Axnslicer

[quote=aznstyles]But AEE and shields are cheaper? 4k nx per shield[/quote]

6k NX > 1.8k NX. When the value of 4.2k NX multiplied by the expected number of trials/success outweighs the value of the no boom AEE, then you start using no booms. For many worlds the tipping point is between 40%-20% success rate.

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aznstyles

[quote=jacob1248]Guardian scrolls make it so you don't lose the scroll if it fails. Since no booms are like 4 bill and guardians are 1.8k nx, it's way cheaper to use no booms with guardians.[/quote]

But AEE and shields are cheaper? 4k nx per shield

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SimplyHim

Starforce shoes/belt to 7 then no boom the rest.
yolo starforce cape to 10

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jacob1248

[quote=WowChowMein]Why would you no boom + guardian... I'm sure you mean regular AEE + guardian[/quote]

Guardian scrolls make it so you don't lose the scroll if it fails. Since no booms are like 4 bill and guardians are 1.8k nx, it's way cheaper to use no booms with guardians.

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CherryTigers

If you double click cygnus, she apparently can drop things like unique pot scrolls and the 2~5 star AEEs that you mentioned, but I've killed her so many times with high %drop rate, I haven't seen a single thing like that drop.

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WowChowMein

[quote=Ruew]at the moment, at least in scania, it's probably cheaper to use no booms + guardians from 5 stars+[/quote]

Why would you no boom + guardian... I'm sure you mean regular AEE + guardian

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Klytta

I 5 star my tyrants first. Then No Boom AEE 5+ because its cheaper overall in my world due to the meso price of each no boom.

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Ruew

at the moment, at least in scania, it's probably cheaper to use no booms + guardians from 5 stars+

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AnthonysWill

Tyrant Cape: You could buy a 5 star tyrant cape at a cheap price these days. From there, you can use superior wards + regular AEES for 5~7 stars. You can then use star force or no boom AEEs for anything pass 7 stars. Tyrant capes are easily replaceable if you happen to explode them via star force.

Tyrant Gloves, Belt, Shoe: 5 Star EE these ones. Then use superior wards + regular AEEs for 5~7 stars. Then no boom AEEs from there. It's very costly to replace these equips if you explode them.

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LiliKoby

If you already have a 5 star, just drop it on unless it booms. For capes, I would star force to around 8-10 and then use no booms. For shoes/belt, 5 star ee, then ward to 7, no boom past that.

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WhoaMomma1

I'd go.. with 5 star enhancement scroll, then superior protection scroll for the 6-7th star.
Unless you're extremely lucky.. It might eat a ton of mesos for star forcing to 5 stars

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