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Shade

I can honestly say I feel weak

I have my Shade at level 126 right now, I was doing RnJ with a kid who started out at level 103 on his new NW. I start seeing my damage and I'm just like "Eh, 20-40k a line, not bad" but then I see this kid on his NW doing 700k+ crits PER LINE. I honestly didn't know it was possible until then. I had seen some kid who probably wastes his parents $$ on this game to either buy NX to sell or to buy mesos to get all this stuff....it was intense, I felt so weak. I mean I spent over 25mil for what I have and back in the day that was enough to get you from 100-150 with ease, but now that I see this kid, I feel bad but at the same time I also feel good that I didn't spend all the money I worked my butt off for on a game and instead invested it into something useful....(well I bought some clothes, paid for gas, paid my bills, paid the house bills...should've saved it for my speeding ticket) However I'm just thinking....Why in the hell would someone spend that much money on a class that they're just going to abandon once they hit 150?

I don't know, I'm just ranting on and on....I came back and saw the new class Shade, immediately I was in awe because of the name and the look. It was OP leveling it with my zombie rings, 7att work glove and I was easily able to 2-3 hit mobs while not taking any major damage, I was only wasting money on MP pots, it's still like that but now I have to waste my money on Skill Books and leveling other characters so that I don't get bored trying to level something I decided to main.
I know I'm not the only one who thinks that they feel weak compared to others right now, especially kids funding NW's to the extreme for no specific reason. (I actually made one and my god it sucks at dealing with multiple mobs)

October 30, 2014

35 Comments • Newest first

MaliciousRogue

[quote=madking44]If you spent that $1000 wisely you'd be as godly as him[/quote]

I spent that much on this game over the years, meaning altogether, not at once. The most I've spent at once was I bought 2 25k cards.

Reply November 14, 2014
madking44

If you spent that $1000 wisely you'd be as godly as him

Reply November 13, 2014
TheQueen

@MaliciousRogue: Yeah, that's why the gap between the rich and poor is huge I'm just playing it while the game lasts ( hoping one day they'll learn from their mistakes and actually put their " A Better Maple" in use) but wishful thinking sigh really sad to see where the game is at right now

Reply November 4, 2014
MaliciousRogue

@Genostigma They didn't feel like they couldn't keep up with Nexon, I was saying that they cannot deal with Nexon constantly messing up. Once they "fix" something, they would cause something else to bug. Back then when they were spending over $5k a week on NX the max damage cap was 99k so you'd see 99k per line.

@TheQueen Yeah, sadly Nexon will always be Nexon. I miss the days when this game wasn't P2W and the whole potentials on items weren't around, that way you wouldn't have to keep buying cubes just to keep up.

Reply November 3, 2014
Genostigma

@MaliciousRogue: I'll agree that this game has side-shifted to the P2W factor. All the key elements Nexon had to keep this game alive are now gone as well (ex:ludi pq, PvP and other pqs). I'll also agree that the main goal to this game is to see how much $$$ you can spend to achieve top damage.

On a side note, those guys you mentioned who spent $5k a week on this game and then felt like they couldn't keep up with Nexon are complete idiots or liars. Because even a minimum of $100/week can get you excellent results.

Reply November 3, 2014
MaliciousRogue

[quote=3020]you're an idiot boo hoo[/quote]

You just seem to like talking to yourself a lot don't you? Please don't call yourself an idiot. We love you little one.

Reply November 2, 2014
3020

you're an idiot boo hoo

Reply November 2, 2014
MaliciousRogue

@TheQueen: I bash Nexon because I've had an account with Nexon since before GMS ever account, never liked their service back then either, only reason I bought NX back in the day was due to me being addicted to gaming. I enjoy the games, I just don't enjoy the crap they try to pull on the players.

Reply November 2, 2014
TheQueen

@MaliciousRogue: Nexon knows there's addicts out there that spend NX on something every day or week, etc. As long as players spend money then that's all that matters to them. Some people bash Nexon while they still spend money on the game and that's why Nexon is winning Let's just enjoy it as much as we can, right?

Reply November 2, 2014
MaliciousRogue

@TheQueen: Well GMS has things that KMS, JMS and MSEA don't have. GMS is a mix of all of them, and Nexon decided that it would bring in more money despite it being so buggy and glitchy. I remember when another company had taken over a different Nexon game and ended up listening to their players while fixing the problems Nexon wouldn't fix while still making a huge profit.

Reply November 2, 2014
MisterPANG

An advice that I'd like to give is be active in a ms community! Sometimes things can be rewarding by being proactive and making friends. Your friends can be nice enough to give you equipments or mesos. Or if you're friend is able to boss like cra, they may let you keep your drops (which is what I do). Take advantage of events as well. An example I can think of right off the bat is maple leaf event. Just afk at a channel where people train and loot (although they may not like that).

Reply November 2, 2014
gatotsuwolf

ya i think u should level up more cus when u lvel u get stats and itl make you very much stronger ok if you just add the stats you'll get boost don't worry about it youll stronger be stronger than other people soon enough leveling up gives the stats you need

Reply November 2, 2014
TheQueen

@MaliciousRogue: Of course every company's main goal is to make money but some of those companies actually LISTEN to their customers. It's the little things that make a big impact and could possibly bring in more revenue but the big bosses in KMS don't give a damn about that; all they want to do is milk every cent out of people with every chance they get. It's really a shame that GMS is at its current state.

Reply November 2, 2014
MaliciousRogue

@TheQueen: Nexon doesn't care about us, they said so themselves they are only in this for the money. The only reason they keep Combat Arms as one of their games is because it brings in a lot of money even though the game itself is full of hackers. Nexon keeps Mabinogi simply due to the income they get, the player base has dropped significantly but they only keep it because it still brings in about $50k a week from just people purchasing useless things. One of Nexon's former employee's did an interview with someone and admitted to how greedy their bosses are. Our Nexon for GMS doesn't do anything without consent from Korea Nexon because the big bosses are over there and if they think it will help increase their wallets they will do anything to make money, even if they lose loyal players in the process.

Reply November 2, 2014
TheQueen

@MaliciousRogue: Damn and I don't blame them. They(Nexon) just don't get it and lose very valuable players like those. Smh

Reply November 1, 2014
MaliciousRogue

@Genostigma Actually the $1000+ I've spent was over the years. Meaning while I was in Broa and after I moved to Bera years ago as well. I'm not as much mad as I am disappointed how Nexon stated years ago that this game will not be P2W (Pay to win) but yet here it is, if you pay enough money you can win most definitely. Obviously there is no winning at MapleStory, however the end game is to reach the most damage you can possibly get, get the best equipment and get rich....sadly that's not the case anymore, mainly because no one actually works their ass off anymore. They have made everything too easy to get and it's a joke. I play WoW as well and they did an item squish meaning they lowered the stats on all items lowering the damage and HP of everyone so they could make way for better things to make the game even harder whilst being more enjoyable because it's following the lore. I'm not trying to be a jerk towards anyone it's just....MapleStory isn't what it used to be, it's changed so much over the years that the end game is to now spend the most money you can to be the best you can because why work for something when you have thousands of botters in every world botting for everything you need or people duping to make the items you need while you pay them hundreds of dollars to do it. I don't know, I'm just disappointed is all.

@TheQueen There used to be people who spent over $5k on this game a week, I actually knew them too. They ended up quitting because they couldn't handle the crap Nexon was spewing anymore. They gave up hope and just quit. As for how they got the money....yeah I have no idea, as far as I know, their parents were real rich back then and I had no idea what they did or anything. Still....$5k a week is a lot of money to be spending on this game.

Reply October 31, 2014
TheQueen

@MaliciousRogue: That's true but if players start losing interest in the game because of lack of content, tired of nexon's bs etc., the people who spends tons of money on the game will eventually spend less money and or quit ( which means they'll get less money) but yes, I know what you mean as well.

Reply October 31, 2014
Genostigma

@MaliciousRogue: Well, like I said, you're judging the book by its cover and assuming stuff. If he's hitting godly at that Lv then let him be. Who cares how he got his equips? Stolen money, Merch, botting. I know it ticks you off seeing you're higher level and hitting less but that's just genetics. You should be more sad (as you stated) that you've spent around $1,000 real money on this game and still not able to achieve godly items to fund your characters. No need to envy, just try harder and set goals.
That's my 50cents! <3

@LightsCS <--- Take notes from this guy, everything he said is the way to go and the way most maplers do it....including myself.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
MaliciousRogue

@LightsCS What's sad is that to me 100mil is a ton. I have a bunch of items I need to sell which I could get close to 1bil if I sell them all, however the fact remains that a lot of people are just buying their mesos now. I've never done that nor will I ever do such a thing. The most I've ever had was around 200-300mil and to me I felt rich until I started talking to people who were telling me how they have max mesos on 5 different characters. As for the planning months ahead thing, on Bera I know some folks did, however you could tell this guy didn't, he probably just bought the equips on his main or mule then transferred over to that. I am sure there are those who are doing the damage cap already and aren't even near max level either. I wish there was a reason to get to 250 right now though...as of now there's no reason to even get to that level other than to be on the rankings of one of the few 250. I looked on the rankings to see that people had already gotten past level 200 as a NW, it just amazes me that they can find the time to do that within 6 hours of NW coming out. (I checked rankings to see who was the highest NW and it was about 6 hours after they came out)

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
LightsCS

From my perspective on this (if i'm reading this right), NW was built to do high 1-on-1 damage with weak mobbing capabilities. So of course, naturally NW will do alot more damage in those circumstances. With...I'd say ~20b? and some NX (to buy bypass keys to wear certain equips above your level), it doesn't appear to be difficult to be hitting that high. Some people also prepared for this revamp as well, since everything always comes out in KMS first. I wouldn't be surprised of there are some people out there doing cap damage already because they've planned months ahead for this update. As for the amount of mesos someone could have, most of my mesos income comes from bossing. You can make an easy 1b a week (and lots more depending on how well your bossing capabilities are) just from doing a couple bosses. From your standings, I can see why 100m/1b/10b might seem alot (which it is, don't get me wrong), but it's also much easier for some people to make than others. After a certain point of funding, you'd no longer need to spend money on the game. All of your mesos income would basically come from bosses.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
MaliciousRogue

@Genostigma Simply because of the equipment he had on. If he worked for his equips through plain merching then it would've showed, but no one can make that much from merching over the years, I know people who have done it and honestly making over 100bil (which is what all his equipment would've cost cause it's Bera and everything is overpriced) would be nearly impossible unless you got super lucky. Unless he botted on 10 accounts to get all the money, which wouldn't be hard considering the amount of hackers you see in game with those ridiculous names getting drops from Elites....it's crazy now. I miss when making 100mil legit was a HUGE deal, back when 1bil was the max and reaching 1bil was nearly impossible unless you duped, hacked or were scamming.

@TheQueen I know what you meant, but the fact remains that if those folks left they'd still have GMS up. I mean with their ads alone they make over $10mil a month, plus with those NX websites they put on the website itself makes them a lot of money as well.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
TheQueen

@MaliciousRogue: I meant for GMS and GMS only Yes, I do know they have other games which they get profit from and from other regions as well but I was talking about for GMS ( It can be argued that the people who spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on Maple ( GMS), keep the game up and running for GMS )

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
Genostigma

@MaliciousRogue Yeah, we've all spent money on this game and it sucks to see the total amount sometimes. As far as the kid you mention, how do we know he spent $$$ on this game or if he got it from his parents? Maybe he's just a good merchant and has funded his characters through out the years? But anyways, people do things because they can and because they enjoy it, we can't judge them on that.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
iKanji

[quote=MaliciousRogue]@iKanji you have 20 character slots, I have about 13? Maybe 14? Not sure.[/quote]

demon avenger, kanna, xenon, luminous, hayato, beast tamer, cannon shooter and phantom should do some good range increasing. include a zero and maybe a mage/thief character. thats 11 characters, each with great link skills that generally boost damage, and a perfect set of character cards (not perfect but 3 of a kind gives decent bonuses.) just be sure to get all links lvl120 (except hayato (lvl70 is good enough) ) the finishing of character cards like that one random mage/thief character could just be gotten to lvl100 for level S. im sure you can do at least 1.3x better or more with these for sure.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
MaliciousRogue

@iKanji you have 20 character slots, I have about 13? Maybe 14? Not sure.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
iKanji

rack up on link skills? i have all links and pretty good S cards (3 pirates, 3 mages, 3 warriors each with pretty amazing bonuses) and pretty much no gear (tot knowhows) and im hitting 20-50k a line at lvl60. no money spent there aside from playing long enough to have like, 20 character slots.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
MaliciousRogue

@TheQueen Actually they aren't the reasons why the game is up and running. Nexon actually makes over $1bil a year from all their games combined, MapleStory is a huge profit but so are the others, Nexon used to own a game called Guns (I think that's what it was called) and they sold it to another company who ended up making a fortune off it because Nexon couldn't turn a profit. That was the reason why I've had a Nexon account for so long, because I started playing Nexon games before GMS ever existed. Not to mention GMS didn't use to be so "Global" and was restricting multiple IP's from other countries forcing them to be on another version of MapleStory, hence why there's MSEA. I'm not sure if they still have the other MS around or not, I only hear of MSEA, KMS and GMS.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
TheQueen

@MaliciousRogue: Either they buy from other people, sell stuff, trade stuff , pay it themselves because they have a job etc. I understand what you're saying but if it's what they enjoy then I can't really judge them when they're the ones who make the game up and running for the rest of us to play for free. Lots of people spend money of League of Legends ( skins,etc) and other games as well. Another reason could be that they're addicted.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
MaliciousRogue

@saipanda Yeah you're a Page so you do lmao. I remember when Page's were the best class for grouping with because they had so much Defense but no one played them because they did such crappy damage. I'm sure it's still the same but I'm sure now they have better mobbing compared to back in the day when they literally had none.

@TheQueen Yeah, but they have Luk % gear and all other stuff, it's insane how much money some kid paid just for that. I'd never spend that much money on this game. I've already spent over $1000 on NX over the years, which compared to now is nothing since I hear about these kids using their parents money to buy 2-5mil NX, that's MILLIONS of NX which costs THOUSANDS of dollars. I mean damn...how rich are their parents? I would've saved up for a dang car, screw a game!

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
TheQueen

[quote=MaliciousRogue]You misread this entire thing. I said I am level 126 doing 40k max a line, he was doing over 700k a line at level 103.

@EatNow I knew what was going on, I expected it but I didn't expect to be seeing someone at that level doing over 100k a line. That's just sad, I mean they could literally 1 hit each Zakum normal arm and possibly zakum himself.[/quote]

They just got revamped and released so they're naturally going to be more stronger. Lots of people who enjoy the thief branch has/ will switch over most likely since they're an overall good class to play ( really good bosser). I'm not too sure how hard or little the nerf will be to them. Just upgrade little by little ; if you enjoy the class then that's the important part, right?

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
saipanda

@MaliciousRogue: oh i see. well you can still get stronger as you level up and earn more meso to get better gear.

i understand feeling weak though. i was trying to help you feel a bit better xD

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
MaliciousRogue

[quote=saipanda]you're lvl 103.... it doesn't really matter that much yet[/quote]

You misread this entire thing. I said I am level 126 doing 40k max a line, he was doing over 700k a line at level 103.

@EatNow I knew what was going on, I expected it but I didn't expect to be seeing someone at that level doing over 100k a line. That's just sad, I mean they could literally 1 hit each Zakum normal arm and possibly zakum himself.

Reply October 31, 2014 - edited
saipanda

you're lvl 103.... it doesn't really matter that much yet

Reply October 30, 2014 - edited
EatNow

You spent 25m mesos, he spent $$$. What did you expect?

Reply October 30, 2014 - edited