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[quote=dohboi]I noticed the same thing actually & thought it was rather select wording,
I was going to share this little observation myself but I had a feeling the thread would be filled with pretty much what I read here.
"dropping is the same thing, blah blah blah" well - it isnt.
If all they wanted you to do was 'get rid of them' I dont see why they'd ask you to NPC them, esp since theyre worth 0 meso.
(buuuuut they -did- give specific instructions as to 'how to get rid of them', didnt they?)
So me, I NPC'd the few Id bought in the FM for cheap & kept the ones Id had since before the event even started.
The only thing Im concerned with is all the maple items Ive SAVED over YEARS of Anniv Events I have on mules.
Most of those mules werent even logged in for months. Id better not get nailed for my little collection Ive saved over time.
In the end we all know that a few things are certain to happen after the 15th:
1> Hackers will still have some / all the dirty mesos they made.
2> Innocent, Legit, Loyal players will be falsely banned & likely have to wait months (if ever) to get unbanned.
3> Some players will NPC / Drop items that are 100% legit just out of paranoia & suffer a net loss for no reason.
Add to that (if the TS theory is true) plenty of ppl who stocked up on cheap chaos scrolls
deceide to [drop] them instead of NPC'ing them like Nexon instructed, find themselves banned anyways.
'Follow Instructions' & 'Better Safe than Sorry' seems to be the way to go as far as Im concerned.[/quote]

Well, here's the thing.

[b]All players that abused this exploit will be banned[/b]

If you think of it in "tracking down all the exploited items," it sounds hard, until you realize you just have to find the people who exploited and follow the trail from them. Exploited items going out in the thousands? Ban, check trade history to see who they traded them to. The mesos they got from it go to a mule? Mule gets banned too.

If they do this in-depth, which I'm assuming they are, seeing as they're spending an entire week to prepare for the mass hellban, there will be no loopholes. All exploiters will be banned, including whichever character they stored their illegitimately gained mesos on. Those who got stuff from the exploiters and have not dropped them will be banned.

EDIT: Also, Hime made a thread on the forum just saying to get rid of them.
http://forum.nexon.net/MapleStory/forums/thread/7285642.aspx
/thread.

Yeah... I npc'd mine. o_o

@fun2killu: they can but they wouldn't. Theyre too lazy, and why would anyone do a job to look at what pixel people sold to an even less responsive pixel person?
proof plox?

[quote=jstn]well, you kinda threw out the "[b]I dont want to cause panic[/b]" part when we all read the title

Edit: just decided to actually read the other words, but i think your just trying to take things in a really..well like you think nexon takes all their words seriously. > which they dont.
plus, selling them to npc isnt gunna change anything, its not like the npcs can record everything that was sold to them O-o[/quote]

nexon can record every transaction that is made on Maplestory.

[quote=ninjasmasher]@lilpom14: NO YOU DAMN NINJAS >.< brb editing post[/quote]

Haha

well, you kinda threw out the "[b]I dont want to cause panic[/b]" part when we all read the title

Edit: just decided to actually read the other words, but i think your just trying to take things in a really..well like you think nexon takes all their words seriously. > which they dont.
plus, selling them to npc isnt gunna change anything, its not like the npcs can record everything that was sold to them O-o

[quote=TheAverageJoe]I wouldn't worry. [b][i]Or would I?[/i][/b][/quote]

Best response yet.

if the stuff you have is legit, do you still have to drop it?

Aw crap I dropped my chaos scrolls D:

My guess is that they will simply be doing a 'delta' between the number of scrolls on accounts pre-public release of the hack and post-public release of the hack.

If they see some arbitrary increase of X (pick some amount that would signify a clear attempt to profit from the hack, like 100 or 200 or 1000), it gets banned. Maybe it gets 'flagged' for banning, and someone will look at that account activity. If the logs show they bought all those scrolls on Sunday and they never dropped any, yeah, it's banned then.

But, that's pure speculation. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I would _assume_ I'm safe since I didn't buy anything, but who know, maybe all those maple weapons I found (or traded in level 64 items for coins for to buy) and transferred to my other characters will set off some red flags and I'll get banned too. I would hope not, since I didn't touch a single exploited item, but who knows what algorithm they'll use.

All I know is I hope they minimize the truly innocent people who truly didn't know better, I hope they punish the hackers the most, and I hope they teach a lesson to people who tried to exploit the obviously hacked items as a get-rich-quick scheme.

@lilpom14: NO YOU DAMN NINJAS >.< brb editing post

[quote=ninjasmasher]They're untradeable, therefore they disappear when dropped.

OT: Meh, I don't even think they'll ban anyone =.=[/quote]

Beat u to it haha

[quote=ajcv2009]I think they might have specifically mentioned "selling things back to the NPC" because, if you drop an item, it takes some time before it disappears. During that time, someone else could come and pick it up, specially if it's an "attractive" item, like a scroll or an expensive equip. Many people are naive enough (or oblivious enough) to think that, if they find a bunch of Chaos scrolls dropped, they can use them/keep them because they are legit... When, in reality, they were the drop of someone who was trying to get rid of exploited items. So, maybe, in order to avoid that, they instructed people to sell their stuff to the NPC. That way, there's less risk of other people getting the exploited items and just spreading the disease further.

This is only my personal "theory", though, so I may be completely mistaken. [/quote]

They're untradeable, therefore they disappear when dropped. (Ninja'd)

OT: Meh, I don't even think they'll ban anyone =.=

[quote=ajcv2009]I think they might have specifically mentioned "selling things back to the NPC" because, if you drop an item, it takes some time before it disappears. During that time, someone else could come and pick it up, specially if it's an "attractive" item, like a scroll or an expensive equip. Many people are naive enough (or oblivious enough) to think that, if they find a bunch of Chaos scrolls dropped, they can use them/keep them because they are legit... When, in reality, they were the drop of someone who was trying to get rid of exploited items. So, maybe, in order to avoid that, they instructed people to sell their stuff to the NPC. That way, there's less risk of other people getting the exploited items and just spreading the disease further.

This is only my personal "theory", though, so I may be completely mistaken. [/quote]

They are untradeable atm so the sec u drop them they disappear so there is no chance for someone to pick it up. . .unless you hack.

I think they might have specifically mentioned "selling things back to the NPC" because, if you drop an item, it takes some time before it disappears. During that time, someone else could come and pick it up, specially if it's an "attractive" item, like a scroll or an expensive equip. Many people are naive enough (or oblivious enough) to think that, if they find a bunch of Chaos scrolls dropped, they can use them/keep them because they are legit... When, in reality, they were the drop of someone who was trying to get rid of exploited items. So, maybe, in order to avoid that, they instructed people to sell their stuff to the NPC. That way, there's less risk of other people getting the exploited items and just spreading the disease further.

This is only my personal "theory", though, so I may be completely mistaken.

Well if I get banned, /ragequit

[quote=JaguarKiller]You have no proof, yet you're saying that they can do that? Wow, just low.
OT: I don't believe you. People who dropped their Chaos Scrolls probably did not get banned.[/quote]

You can easily find proof through google.

Does Maple item count because i made a 61att skanda once nd sold it for 200m (2) ... it still exsist somewere

Let me mention one more thing. Nexon says all exploited items must be removed, which not only includes scrolls, but also maple items. The maple items can stuill be turned into silver coins which is technically "removing them from your inventory", however the silver coins are still exploited coins. Therefore the items may have been removed, but you are still in posession of exploited coins. This just goes to show that only by selling to an npc can nexon officially track which ones have been properly removed.

Errm..

[quote=Nexon]If all exploited items are removed in time, you will not be banned[/quote]
Hmm..

Edit: Ninja'ed.

I think the ts is right...

There is something ive seen some hackers doing where they can drop untradeable chaos scrolls and get them onto other characters @_@

so if you didnt sell to npc your screweeddd

It's the same actually. The only difference is that the tracked item will be inexistant instead of being sold.