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[quote=NeoBowmaster]The occurrence of armor break activating so quickly on turret that it overlaps itself is likely a glitch (Most likely visual, rather than functional). In my opinion it seems to be activating at a reasonable rate since I don't notice it activating once every second or two, but about every 10-15 seconds similar to what @copyrighted mentioned.[/quote]

hmmm....i really am going to need a gms video after all. alright thanks guys for the input.

[quote=airforce1]I did this when RED first came out in KMS. Things may have changed since that first patch, but here's how AB worked:
Turret could activate AB but not more than once if no other attacks were being used.
AB activated more frequently with Blaster (as obviously intended)

I never got many points in AB so I can't make many guesses about any activation rate differences. I did not do any damage calculations.[/quote]

I also believe it should work like that, but I personally think Turret works better with ABr (Armour Break) and it performs better than AB itself at the moment. So it's possible that their functions could be switched with each other at the moment. Although I will try to test ABr at CVel (Where its activation will be much more noticeable).

i think the AB animation keeps overlapping itself is a glitch too. after looking at some vids of kms bm on youtube (especially the one with hard magnus), i can say that turrent/arrow blaster/hurricane works good with AB now, although i didnt take the test to actually count how frequent AB procs on either of our rapid-fire skills. but for now, as long as i dont dc, im a happy mapler.

[quote=NeoBowmaster]The mechanics of the skill (completely) is still a mystery. If any bowmaster has a KMS account, maybe make a bowmaster and test it to see how it functions in KMS? If its similar, then it is fixed. If it's not similar then still glitched.[/quote]

I did this when RED first came out in KMS. Things may have changed since that first patch, but here's how AB worked:
Turret could activate AB but not more than once if no other attacks were being used.
AB activated more frequently with Blaster (as obviously intended)

I never got many points in AB so I can't make many guesses about any activation rate differences. I did not do any damage calculations.

@bluebomber24: The occurrence of armor break activating so quickly on turret that it overlaps itself is likely a glitch (Most likely visual, rather than functional). In my opinion it seems to be activating at a reasonable rate since I don't notice it activating once every second or two, but about every 10-15 seconds similar to what @copyrighted mentioned.

[quote=Copyrighted]From my experience (so far), armor break seldom (once every 10~20 seconds) procs for me with every combination of attack. I have yet to witness armor break being spammed over my head thus far[/quote]

exactly what happend to me; armor break doesnt even activate the way its supposed to still.and i think people are gettign Mortal Blow and Armor Break mixed up maybe.

@neobowmaster @jjlily So how is Armor Break working atm? I am hearing multiple things?

@VietUA: I know how all classes work, but I get a different point of view when I play them.

As far as I have seen, AP is insane with AB, the damage skyrockets in a split second and stays like that most of the times.

I am a person of spreaded interests, I don't mind much the damage but having fun with the class itself, that's why I main bishop, I can both support and attack at the same time which is perfect for me, BM might be a good class IF what we expect for the fix of this glitch is actually true, I just want someone from GMS to show me AP in action and the rest comes from me.

@IsGamer: MM are almost nothing like BM. They use an entire new system that increases/decreases damage/critical depending on where you stand (physical range) which, in my opinion, needs the player to be able to maintain more control than they would a Bow Master. Wind Archer and Mercedes come pretty close to showing how the new updated BM work, only difference is your number of hits are crazy. I guess the idea was to combine a Phantom (Magic Arrows = Cards, Drain Arrows = Drain Card, Poison Arrows = 170 Hyper DoT) and keep the originality of Bow Masters to showcase a more "techno" look to it (which worked for some skills, I wish most - all skills could be like that)

[quote=VietUA]@IsGamer: Heck yes, we're happy. BM have been pretty good since the last patches, with AFA and AB activating quite frequently. Hope you join us~[/quote]

Just for your interest, I main Bishop as you might saw, I made a MM and they're crazy fun but I have a WA and Merce, thus I imagined to have either all the archer classes or just make a canonneer.

It all rests on this hot weekend, I might make a poll to see if either make a BM or make a canonneer.

Off-topic-favor: Can someone film the AB (without dcing) with full AFA and armor break rate while also using both AP (AB with space) and AB? It might help me decide.

@jjlily The overlapping hasn't happened to me so far.
@IsGamer Yes, We are quite happy, You should try a BM it's quite a fun class to play.
@VietUA The mechanics of the skill (completely) is still a mystery. If any bowmaster has a KMS account, maybe make a bowmaster and test it to see how it functions in KMS? If its similar, then it is fixed. If it's not similar then still glitched.

@jjlily: Well, the skill should work that way. I haven't seen much a change in my Armor Break rate, let's hope they fix it.
I believe AB is suppose to have a 10% proc rate, increasing by another 10% every time it doesn't proc. Turret and Blaster hits 11+ arrows p/s so it should hit about every second, if not more.
@IsGamer: Heck yes, we're happy. BM have been pretty good since the last patches, with AFA and AB activating quite frequently. Hope you join us~

Hmm... Bowmasters be happy? I mean every BM complained about dcing with Arrow Blaster and it's going to get a fix at long last.

If this happens, I might switch from WA to BM OR the next class (which was going to be either Canoneer or DB) will be a BM because I find AB to be an interesting skill but I fear dcing every split second I use it.

Again, good luck to you guys.

fingers crossed..i noticed something today when i logged in n went to gollux. i know people have been talking about the armor break animation keeps activating and the animation overlaps itself. i've finally seen that today. and surprisingly, armor break activates more now. its like turret is activating armor break every arrow as well as hurricane too. idk if this is supposedly the way armor break works for our rapid fire skills