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That hat would make a beautiful couch... or wallpaper The photo's very nice, lovely colours. I've no problem with gay marriage, and only a few concerns about abortion.

The hat is alright. The picture looks insanely mechanical and confusing but cool however. The idea of gay marriage of different people isn't really my business. I have no comments of abortion. There's good and bad in it.

@NineCrimes:

Yes; Heterosexual couples both receive BAH. There [b]isn't[/b] a concern about fraudulent marriages (contract marriages do exist, but its harder to find a female to get married to in the infantry since there aren't any females in the infantry... and its hard to get married outside in town because you rarely go out... it'd be WAY easier to get married to a fellow marine in your same platoon to reap the BAH.) I can also tell you that it [i]can[/i] be fixed to be more "fair", but justice is relative to the circumstances.

To prevent another rant, the people who are high in the ranks will not allow this to change because a lot of them marry other high-ranking service members and earn a six-figure income annually. I am not saying that this is undeserved (it really isn't undeserved) because once you are in the [b]Infantry[/b] (not a POG [person other than grunt]), you are often working 18 hour days in the field and still get paid as much as some admin POG working 8 hours a day on a desk. You also dedicate [b]all[/b] of your time into the service for however long your contract dictates.

Once you get out, its difficult to integrate back into the civilian life. I am planning on going to college in [less than] two years - but imagine the disadvantages I will face being out of school for 4 years in a mind-numbing [often mind-blowing] environment.

Wait this is turning into that rant I wanted to prevent.
Everything should stay the way it is. It is working out just fine [well not really - but changing this law will make things worse]. The benefits of the few does not justify the death of a society.

not a big fan of snapbacks, but i really love the hat. picture doesn't do much for me, though it seems like an interesting place (warehouse thing?).
pro-choice and pro-gay marriage.

@sirenheart:
@ehnogi:

You guys are just speaking a different language. This is not going to go anywhere. I'd just leave it alone.

@Sirenheart:

Are you serious? Why would you say this, friend? Is it because I believe men and women should be treated differently? Is it because I think that gay people == reproduction? Is it because I think that if gays were allowed the same benefits as heterosexuals, that people in the military [the ones that [b]you don't even think of[/b] ] will take advantage of millions - if not billions of taxpayer dollars?

Regardless of how I don't like gay people, I believe that they should be free to exercise their orientation as long as it doesn't bother society. Yes, they can't reproduce - but there aren't enough gay people out there to regress the population so they should be allowed to exercise freely.

No matter what you think : Men and women [b]should[/b] and [b]always will be[/b] treated differently. A man will always open the door for the woman. A man will always sweet talk the woman. A man will always show more etiquette around women.

As far as jobs are concerned : If a woman outputs the same amount of efficiency as a man without any repercussions, then she should be paid the same. But women should [b]not[/b] be allowed to be in the infantry. I will not extend this rant.

You sir, are afraid of the truth.

I'm glad people like my picture! I took it today on a whim.

@ehnogi: Are heterosexual couples allowed to both receive BAH (or its equivalent from other branches of military or service)? If so, then why is there not the same concern about fraudulent marriages there? I'm just saying this kind of thing could easily be remedied with something like, "couples both in service only receive one partner's payment" or something similar.

Abortion should be allowed in countries with high rates of r ape and stuff.

i hate those hats
that picture reminds me of the matrix
idk about abortion and gay marriage.

@NineCrimes:

1. That hat is gay then. Obviously my statement isn't a bash against you. You asked for opinions about the hat, and I laid them out there. That hat is gay. Regardless of what you may think, women and men should be treated differently. As a man, you should also be able to take criticism from other men when you ask for opinions on an object such as your hat.

2. What you are saying is :

Under the assumption that Laws Shouldn't Harm Society...
Gays are a part of society.
Therefore, Laws shouldn't harm gays.

I agree. Laws shouldn't harm gay people. They should totally allow them to file joint tax returns. In the civilian world.

3. This is where you and I have a misunderstanding.
Let me tell you a little bit about the actual life of a United States Marine Infantryman.

The USMC has a little over 200k strong, and about 15% of them being infantryman. The infantry breeds a very.. different type of person whose morals generally do not coincide with that of regular society's. They are also [b]all male[/b]. I'd say that 1 in 10 are married heterosexually.

Marriage in the service means you pocket "Basic Allowance for Housing". For me, it is an extra $1,800 a month to help support what endeavors I have for my family.
One company of Infantry marines = about 200. Let's say 20 of them are married. 180 Marines, all-male who aren't married.

If half of those marines decide to marry each other and collect BAH, that is 162,000$ of tax dollars lost from [b]fraudulent marriages[/b].
You may say "People wouldn't do that - they have morals!". You don't know Marine Infantrymen like I do, and I can safely say that if even 1,000 marines decided to marry as a gay couple, that's still $1.8million lost every month. The sad thing is = the system would [b]allow this to happen[/b]. They already allow [b]pointless idling[/b] on deployments to waste millions of dollars a day. They waste ordnance and ammunition like its worth pennies when they're really worth thousands of dollars.

That's just the Marines. Think about the other branches of service who share the same benefits.

I guess you can say that I was making a naturalized response by saying that gays shouldn't have the same tax benefits. My tax return is probably bigger than a lot of other people's tax returns outside of the military....

@ehnogi: 1. I am a guy. I like the hat, even if I would wear it. I am 100% straight blah blah
2. Do gay people not count? Wouldn't not having the same rights harm them? How do you reconcile this with your principle that laws shouldn't harm people?
3. How much tax money would the nation lose? The point is that gays can file joint taxes if they were to receive the same tax filing rights as straight couples. How would this differ from more straight couples getting married? Joint filing only benefits couples when one makes more than the other. This is not even the case with most couples where both people work, which seems to be the case with most gays who marry. Again, how would this in any way be different from more straight couples getting married, something which the American government already tries to encourage?

@NineCrimes

Regarding the hat comment : I thought you were a boy. I apologize. It was out of line to speak to you as I would've spoke to a man posting up that link. [So much for treating women equally huh I kid]. I will edit my statement into this :

I would not wear that hat.

Gay marriage isn't a good thing for society. It's literally detrimental. Right now the number of gays wedding each other is negligibly affects the population so it shouldn't be disallowed.

I could rant on for a very long time about why I think gay couples shouldn't have the same benefits - but in a nutshell it really simplifies into this :

This nation will seriously lose more tax dollars if gay couples were privileged with the same benefits as straight couples.

That will be the end result. Not an opinion. It's a truth.

@ehnogi: Why should gays not be given the same tax benefits? I don't understand why you would disincentivize marriage, especially if you believe that marriage is a good thing for society (you might not, just in general). Further, if you were to apply your principle that things that don't harm society should be allowed, then why are you opposed to gays receiving similar marriage incentives as heterosexual couples? Further, how are you defining what does or does not harm society?

Second, you just called the hat freaking gay.

[quote=NineCrimes]There are too many things wrong with this post[/quote]

What is wrong with it, if I may ask kind friend?

[quote=ehnogi]I get disgusted by gay people but I don't think that the law should prohibit their union. Gays should also not be allowed the same tax benefits as married couples.
I wouldn't abort my baby, but I would leave it up to my wife if she wanted to. I also am opposed to having a law restrict other people from exercising their right to take an unwanted life away.

Whatever doesn't harm society should be allowed to be exercised freely. Abortions don't hurt society. Same with gays.

Edit : Right I forgot the hat. The hat is freaking gay.[/quote]

There are too many things wrong with this post

what i thought about the hat? it's a hat.
the second pic reminded me of a futurama episode.

I get disgusted by gay people but I don't think that the law should prohibit their union. Gays should also not be allowed the same tax benefits as married couples.
I wouldn't abort my baby, but I would leave it up to my wife if she wanted to. I also am opposed to having a law restrict other people from exercising their right to take an unwanted life away.

Whatever doesn't harm society should be allowed to be exercised freely. Abortions don't hurt society. Same with gays.

Edit : Right I forgot the hat. The hat is freaking gay.

Edit 2 : And now you added a photo. That photo looks like an area from Portal 2.

if that hat were my baby I would abort it then get married to a woman so I can never have kids again