To all those complaining about Sw drop rate nerf
I don't understand why people are complaining about the nerf. I think it was necessary to balance the game in terms of funding. Although these equips were not as powerful as Fafnir, they are still an extremely OP alternative.
Those complaining that the drop rate was already low enough are utterly stupid. Clearly you don't see the FM flooded with SW weapons. I mean cmon, a level 160 equip with high capability potentials selling for as low as 100m? They even come with OP set effects. To top it all off, it completely destroys the people who have spent money and time into this game perfecting empress and fafnir just to get blown by kids who just grind a boss that can be killed with a 40k range and getting such a strong equip. I thought it was about time they nerfed the drop rate.
I personally did not get an SW equip but I bought it dirt cheap. I mean seriously, its just ridiculous how easy these were to obtain. You should be lucky Nexon even provided such an easy way to obtain these equips. Lets see them buff these bosses to the difficulty of Hard Magnus or Chaos RA and see how many people complain about how hard they are to obtain. You shouldn't be obligated to obtain these equips so stop complaining because I can kill Grosso with a damn snail shell.
Edit: You don't like the way Maple is ran than quit. Nexon is only neutralizing the Maple economy so that Empress doesn't become useless. Its pretty bad when a boss easier to beat than Empress is dropping better equips than Empress. You don't like my capitalist stand, deal with it welcome to life. Its not just in here that currency matters.
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No, it's just Nexon following what Obama said, "leveling the playing field" so that the rich and established who are "gaming the system" don't control the economy and gives poorer people a chance to move up the economic ladder.
It's the restoration of upward mobility into an otherwise unfair system.
@NigNogJigJog: Ikr i was on maple even before pirates were introduced
@umermahmood: If you read my argument you'd see that I said I didn't like the drop rate not people obtaining SW. Chaos Vellum drops RA and Fafnir equips. Hard Magnus drops Tyrant. Do I complain? No, I say people who can kill those bosses deserve it. In real life, if a poor person starts crying does he/she all of a sudden get money thrown at them? This game along with society is controlled by capitalism. Be on the top of the food chain or continue to file your empty complaints champion I'm sure Nexon cares. Nexon's a company, they sustain themselves through in game purchases. You should thank the funded for keeping this game alive.
[quote=OMGitsarock]No, I just got a SW Two Hand sword just now. Unlike you I can kill Levyathan and Red Grosso so my chances of getting SW is still remarkably high "lol".[/quote]
wow congrats kiddo... I thought you didn't like people getting SW so why are you getting it for yourself ? Hypocrite.
You said above that you never got a SW but only bought one, what a liar...
[quote=umermahmood]lol ? mad because a noob has more range then you lolololol[/quote]
No, I just got a SW Two Hand sword just now. Unlike you I can kill Levyathan and Red Grosso so my chances of getting SW is still remarkably high "lol".
lol ? mad because a noob has more range then you lolololol
For everyone argueing "this was a great way to close the gap between the poor and unfunded," It still is a way to close the gap. It's an mmo, you can still do it for free. Sure the rate's not as high, but it's still there. You might not get a piece every day, but you'll still get items time to time. It re-balances the market a bit, seeing how SW weapons were dropped down to like 50m a piece...
Look at Gollux, everyone said it was closing the gap as well. It's not farmable anymore like it was before, but it's still a source of gaining.
It won't be fast, but you can still get decent equips now. Atleast Sweeth2o exists.
My weapon became pretty worthless due to this so what did I do? I scrolled another one. Got it to 282 attack at 5 stars, pretty satisfied atm.
Yay, so glad I bought mine before the nerf. Maybe now the price of the armor will drop due to readjusted proportional supply.
[quote=Kazzooey]For people like me, that screws up balance. Some of us have invested a lot of time and hard work getting some of these items we have, and then Commerci happens and tosses the value of my sword down from 1b to less than 100m. That's the problem here. Sure help out the noobs but be sure to compensate for the people who get screwed over in the process.
Seems like the only whiners here are the noobs and casuals. Most anyone who has items of value know this is a good thing. If you wanted to play a casual, one-month-to-beat-or-less free game then go play a browser game because this obviously isn't it.[/quote]
I see what you're saying, but it's been said over and over again that there isn't much of a balance in Maplestory anymore. The thing steering a lot of people away from SW equips is the fact they they are untradeable once transposed or worn. This is why I saw SW gear as a very good thing because it doesn't devalue gear that players have worked hard to obtain and perfect.
Sure, now someone with less funding may be just as strong as you, but you still retain the resale value of gear that you worked hard for. Adding SW equips to the game allows people to be powerful for their own sake, since they are unable to sell them or transfer them to other characters.
I definitely think this was a good update. Regardless of what the majority say about Nexon ruining Commerci, this was necessary.
A good indication is the market prices, my guildleader purchased a SweetH20 Knife for 5B on the first day. And literally the next day they were selling for 1B. That dramatic decline can only have been caused one key factor: [b]oversupply[/b].
To reverse this is, is simple, decrease the drop rates. This will increase the price of the item, yes. But mind you Fafnirs are in the billions and a SweetH20 can be bought for less than that? That's rediculous. They have relatively the same stats and can have greater potentials due to the item level.
And even if players were to complain about it, Nexon won't do anything about it. What they say, goes. No rollback means No-Rollback. No more LHC means No more LHC (And may it rest in peace).
It's how it's been before and I'm pretty certain it's how it will always be. Yes, I agree some of their decisions aren't always the greatest. But this one is for the better; this will aid their goal to "fixing" the economy.
Just my two cents.
[quote=j0shlink]Why are you so mad that unfunded people get better stuff to atleast be able to enjoy some of the bosses that normaly cant be done with normal equips?, i mean is not that only because what you call noob can get them, you can't get them too.[/quote]
For people like me, that screws up balance. Some of us have invested a lot of time and hard work getting some of these items we have, and then Commerci happens and tosses the value of my sword down from 1b to less than 100m. That's the problem here. Sure help out the noobs but be sure to compensate for the people who get screwed over in the process.
Seems like the only whiners here are the noobs and casuals. Most anyone who has items of value know this is a good thing. If you wanted to play a casual, one-month-to-beat-or-less free game then go play a browser game because this obviously isn't it.
Ok, I will be honest right now. I do see your point in overpowered equips, but to be honest, a person like me is thankful for having something like this, (and this is coming from a person that is unfunded). I honestly think in my opinion this is a good way to fund the unfunded, also I feel that yes, the nerf was not needed at all,( but this is nexon we are talking about). I also think that its s not right to bash about freaking equips, when everyday on maplestory we see a bunch of overpowered people making the unfunded look like trash. I also picked out that you can buy a equip with no trouble, yes? then you should also understand that not alot of people have the money to buy nx or even find a way to merch on maplestory, which makes getting the equips even harder. Personally, I think you should take an unfunded person point of perspective because clearly you do not get how we feel about the subject, only how ''OverPowered'' we become. (note this comment is not to bash you, only to explain things in another perspective).
The drop rate for weapons was a little absurd, although I don't think it was necessary to decrease the drop rate for the armors too. Those could stand to be a little more common, especially since the pieces by themselves aren't that great to begin with (the gloves being an exception) unless you have the full set.
It's good for mid-funded or spoiled funded people to get some profits.
[quote=OMGitsarock]Thank god. If the equipment were as easy to obtain as the weapon, we'd see noobs running around with an extra 100+ att and all stats from the set bonuses.[/quote]
Who cares if noobs had it... Even do the prequests that take over a day u got to be like lvl 150 or something like that I believe... And if you get to lvl 150 you arent considered a noob. Or atleast thats in my books, because what makes you classify someone as a noob? People who make 40 accounts and spend 1k into the game?
Love your logics. For once the pay2win factor was disappearing. Because if you were capable of doing tynerium pre quests which was annoying and you were lvl 150. Honestly you arent a noob. So the fact that you saying "Noobs gets their hands on it" is wrong. Because who is supposed to get their hands on it? We are all players.
[quote=OMGitsarock]Thank god. If the equipment were as easy to obtain as the weapon, we'd see noobs running around with an extra 100+ att and all stats from the set bonuses.[/quote]
Why are you so mad that unfunded people get better stuff to atleast be able to enjoy some of the bosses that normaly cant be done with normal equips?, i mean is not that only because what you call noob can get them, you can't get them too.
[quote=NigNogJigJog]Oh, yeah, god forbid people are allowed to have fun in a video game without spending $$$$ in a free MMO.[/quote]
Maplestory was originally made to be a game like that but nexon was to greedy and wanted cash.
I'm glad I got these weapons already... I got like 15 weapons before the drop rate nerf.
[quote=OMGitsarock]Thank god. If the equipment were as easy to obtain as the weapon, we'd see noobs running around with an extra 100+ att and all stats from the set bonuses.[/quote]
Too bad the set's value is severely diminished if you don't have the full thing and given the rarity of the armor....
[quote=aquapumpkin]That's only for weapons though. SW equipments are still rare and hard to get.[/quote]
Thank god. If the equipment were as easy to obtain as the weapon, we'd see noobs running around with an extra 100+ att and all stats from the set bonuses.
It's pretty fair, only the weapons are that cheap.
All the other pieces have extremely low drop rates already, and cost over 500m each.