Screw Dps Charts
We need hps charts.. hits per second. Seeing as funding is ultimately everything, the class that clocks in the most hits per second would be the strongest at the end, well generally speaking. Are there any hps charts out there? Id like to have a look, simply out of curiosity.
Dps charts should be considered for the less funded
hps charts should be considered for the more funded
Neither should be considered if you just wanna have fun.
February 4, 2014
18 Comments • Newest first
[quote=InQbus]That's not a solo, behind all of the effects from his equips you can see somebody else 'jumping' around from their skills. he's on the left of the phantom. you can't move while you do AB so it cant possibly be him that's moving[/quote]
i thought that was just a android.
@Kalphis: True indeed
It should be based off of every class with equal equips and funding, instead of unrealistic situations.
@OmgItsMazz: I definitely did not forget Carte Noire with judgment. I have hashed this out with Phantoms multiple times as we both wanted to get to the bottom of who was faster. Irrc, Judgment added about 3 hits per second or something when normalized for Phantoms. In addition, I can not emphasis enough that we are talking about a 100% crit rate Phantom, which should not exist in JT's tables due to no outside bonuses.
Whats wrong with BMs?...like alot, I am still surprised how some of his boss% numbers coincendentally come close to the correct numbers. Pointing out two errors, he has the BM cycling through Quiver manually for some reason and going back and forth between Poison and Magic. While that would result in higher dpm, a BM can't switch arrows like that without having a negative effect on thier dpm. I assume a Hack potentially could acheive this, but normal means definitly can not. The other error is that he is applying Armor Breaks 100% increase as total damage, which isn't a surprise, since the KMS description reads different from the GMS version. Armor Break performs exactly how the GMS version descibes it.
This is more accurate: http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2782310 It also shows that he is making some bad assumptions with Wind Archer's and miscalculations.
[quote=bluebomber24]Wing Beat I hear has issues against some bosses and isn't easy to keep up. and Eunwol definitly doesn't have high hps I believe it hits around 18hit/s.
If you include Wing Beat, Kaiser is number 1. Then its BM (no Phoenix) (36.666666~ hits/s), then its Phantom (100% CritRate) (36.3333333~ hits/s). Everyone else, IDC about.
@OmgItsMazz No, Phantoms don't hit faster BMs, and JT's chart is wrong for Phantoms, If you do the Phantom math, you would get around 36.333333 IF you are assuming the Phantom has 100% critical rate and isn't buffing. There is no way JT's Phantom should be attacking at 41 hit/s, since he excludes outside bonuses and assumes buffing, Thus, the whole Phantom JT chart is calculated incorrectly. Keep in mind that the BM chart is also calculated incorrectly and why its hits are a bit too close.[/quote]
You're probably forgetting the number of hits Carte Noire does when Judgement activates, 41 ish hits seems reasonable taking that into consideration. I actually have no idea how Judgement activation hits work, I've seen it attack anywhere from 6 times to ~15-20 all at once. It's weird. With 100% critical rate and two Arrow Blasters you'd activate auto Judgement every like.. 1.3 seconds? Assuming Blaster is 120ms (which I think it is? Not sure, Bowmaster calculations are not my forte) then that seems very reasonable to me.
What is incorrect for the Bowmaster table?
Nope, once you hit max attack speed, its only a matter of what class it is.
Lel, CM wins this thing haha, we would do like 30 hits a sec
Kaisers have like 42? HPS, phantoms have like 36 HPS, since were hitting cap here I assume 100% crit, BM have 31 + Phoenix and, if flame surge is worth the DOT, Flame Surge and then if AFA procs on Phoenix and Flame Surge... Seeing as getting Kaisers attacks to hit a mobile target I'd say either BM or Phantom win this one.
Or as @bluebomber24 said.
[quote=PhreshPrynce]Doubt it, kaiser, with that wing beat... plus eunwol is coming soon and i heard that out dos both with hps.[/quote]
Wing Beat I hear has issues against some bosses and isn't easy to keep up. and Eunwol definitly doesn't have high hps I believe it hits around 18hit/s.
If you include Wing Beat, Kaiser is number 1. Then its BM (no Phoenix) (36.666666~ hits/s), then its Phantom (100% CritRate) (36.3333333~ hits/s). Everyone else, IDC about.
@OmgItsMazz No, Phantoms don't hit faster BMs, and JT's chart is wrong for Phantoms, If you do the Phantom math, you would get around 36.333333 IF you are assuming the Phantom has 100% critical rate and isn't buffing. There is no way JT's Phantom should be attacking at 41 hit/s, since he excludes outside bonuses and assumes buffing, Thus, the whole Phantom JT chart is calculated incorrectly. Keep in mind that the BM chart is also calculated incorrectly and why its hits are a bit too close.
@PhreshPrynce: Well we can break speed cap easily as long as we have a green mpe pot. Our delay just keeps going down from there. And with RED our delay goes down to 720 seconds on PB making it even easier. Then, Asura is just OP DPS/HPS.
[quote=OmgItsMazz]Hits per second is included in JoeTang's charts on Southperry. Phantom is #1, Bowmaster is probably #2, dunno about anything beyond that. Kaiser assuming full Wingbeat I imagine is up there, and Mercedes too.[/quote]
L> link.. or is that a bannable offense?
[quote=Kalphis]That's easy then. 2x arrow blaster atm wins
Phantom 2 minute Hard Magnus solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFm13w7UZnk[/quote]
That's not a solo, behind all of the effects from his equips you can see somebody else 'jumping' around from their skills. he's on the left of the phantom. you can't move while you do AB so it cant possibly be him that's moving
[quote=Kalphis]That's easy then. 2x arrow blaster atm wins
Phantom 2 minute Hard Magnus solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFm13w7UZnk[/quote]
i have a feeling thats a test server.
I think db phantom and kaiser would have the best "hps"
Hits per second is included in JoeTang's charts on Southperry. Phantom is #1, Bowmaster is probably #2, dunno about anything beyond that. Kaiser assuming full Wingbeat I imagine is up there, and Mercedes too.
[quote=aeswag]I totally agree with you. DB would be on top with that chart. <3[/quote]
I honestly think Phantom would be at the top, since we already have a high HPS, and since we can steal Bow Master and Dual Blade skills, DBs by themselves wouldn't be able to compete.
[quote=aeswag]I totally agree with you. DB would be on top with that chart. <3[/quote]
Doubt it, kaiser, with that wing beat... plus eunwol is coming soon and i heard that out dos both with hps.
I totally agree with you. DB would be on top with that chart. <3