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Star Force Conversion

So after logging on today, I noticed that the Star Force Conversion skill is giving extra HP past 40 and doesn't seem to stop even if you go well above the hundreds. This overshot my HP right into the cap and I'm curious now on whether this may be intentional or not (or maybe KMS has it this way?). Since Miracle Time is coming up and tis' the season to be making new gears, I was wondering if it's worth the risk to redo some HP gears should this skill be permanent the way it is. Any insight would be helpful! o.o

March 11, 2015

15 Comments • Newest first

CroneJ

Maybe I am a bit biased but I somewhat hope it is a glitch, but that's because if its not I have over egged my HP % far far far too much and will mean I need to change my Max HP scrolled gear to attack, like all of it.

I was testing it yesterday, and I could lose 100% HP and still be at cap HP clean which too just seems that it must be a glitch especially as I haven't even 15 starred all my gear.

Reply March 12, 2015
leodirk

Hm not sure if I'm crazy or forgetting something but after the patch but before the unscheduled server maintenance my range was higher than it is now after the maintenance on my DA.

Reply March 12, 2015
PlayThatMelody

[quote=CroneJ]Must be a glitch/error.

If anything for us it should be capped alot lower than 40, maybe around 30 Max.

I am sure that they will fix it soon. Logging on now to see what i'm on haha i should have overshot 500k HP easily clean.[/quote]

While it's possible, it's iffy since most of the information I've gathered today points at this not being a glitch. Of course, I'm still going to wait a bit longer just to make sure it's permanent.

[quote=DeeeMon]The way I see it, Star Force Conversion is to help us get to 500k HP. Having a 40 star cap on Conversion would be kind of strange.[/quote]

It's definitely going to be useful and is easily going to make funding a Demon Avenger much more smooth. The 40 cap was probably implemented in KMS for the purpose of making sure everyone gets the full effect of the update instead of scaling it to a higher number of stars.

[quote=NightCodex]Yep, I was wondering how different my Damage would be before and after the Hyper skill update so I made a screenshot of my Stats window a few hours before the revamp, clean. Then just now I logged in, clean, and noticed I only gained about 657 HP... If you want I can upload the screenshots.

[url=http://i.imgur.com/jKOhpjF.png]EDITED for comparison pictures[/url][/quote]

Your stats are varying so it wouldn't be a sufficient comparison using those two scenarios.

[quote=ajwright92]Seeing that other classes reap the benefits of EE's past 40 stars makes this (glitch) fair.
Why are we only limited to 40 stars of stats while all other classes can benefit from as many stars as they like?[/quote]

That's true, but it's not really about the stars since (currently) Demon Avengers get alot more out of every star compared to every other job (except possibly Xenons?). GMS is using the same scaled bonuses but without a cap and in my experience, the stacking bonuses seem disproportionally large so I can't help but feel a bit anxious that this might be too good to be true.

Reply March 12, 2015 - edited
CherryTigers

Thanks for the update. I really hope it'll be the same for me. I've been too busy so I couldn't log in but that would just be absolutely amazing if my DA also got an HP increase. I can't wait to cube for my DA during miracle time! <3

Reply March 12, 2015 - edited
Lecarde

@NightCodex: Some of your stats are different, actually most of them are different. You sure you didn't leave an equip off when you took the second SS?

Reply March 12, 2015 - edited
ajwright92

Seeing that other classes reap the benefits of EE's past 40 stars makes this (glitch) fair.
Why are we only limited to 40 stars of stats while all other classes can benefit from as many stars as they like?

Reply March 12, 2015 - edited
NightCodex

@PlayThatMelody: Yep, I was wondering how different my Damage would be before and after the Hyper skill update so I made a screenshot of my Stats window a few hours before the revamp, clean. Then just now I logged in, clean, and noticed I only gained about 657 HP... If you want I can upload the screenshots.

[url=http://i.imgur.com/jKOhpjF.png]EDITED for comparison pictures[/url]

Reply March 11, 2015 - edited
DeeeMon

The way I see it, Star Force Conversion is to help us get to 500k HP. Having a 40 star cap on Conversion would be kind of strange.

Reply March 11, 2015 - edited
miroku9696

I've gained about 60k hp after logging in with about 140 stars

Reply March 11, 2015 - edited
PlayThatMelody

[quote=sorgarione]It makes sense that it goes past 40. After 40 stars then, we get nothing if it was the other way around.[/quote]
True. The prior assumption before the update was based on KMS's assumed structure.

[quote=NightCodex]What, I did the math of howmuch HP I had before the revamp and after the revamp and turned out before the update I had 125733 and after the update I only gained 657 Hp.... I have 71 Stars.... what o.O Am I doing something wrong?[/quote]
Are you comparing two buffed/unbuffed scenarios though? 657 HP seems really small for 71 stars... HP % does also play a big role as well.

I tried enhancing my gears back and forth and they were adding/subtracting roughly 150 HP (discounting % HP) per star gain/loss.

Reply March 11, 2015 - edited
CroneJ

Must be a glitch/error.

If anything for us it should be capped alot lower than 40, maybe around 30 Max.

I am sure that they will fix it soon. Logging on now to see what i'm on haha i should have overshot 500k HP easily clean.

Reply March 11, 2015 - edited
sorgarione

@NIghtCodex Enhance something or unqeuip and requip something. Check character cards and link skills. Also there may some miscalculation from unbuffed/buffed.

Reply March 11, 2015 - edited
NightCodex

What, I did the math of howmuch HP I had before the revamp and after the revamp and turned out before the update I had 125733 and after the update I only gained 657 Hp.... I have 71 Stars.... what o.O Am I doing something wrong?

Reply March 11, 2015 - edited
sorgarione

It makes sense that it goes past 40. After 40 stars then, we get nothing if it was the other way around.

Reply March 11, 2015 - edited