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Upgrading Gear

Last night, I was feeling lucky, so I bought 6 red cubes. My Fafnir Split Edge was already Epic, i was just hoping for %All Stat or maybe %Att.

I ended up getting 12% ATT/30% Boss on the 6th cube! http://imgur.com/FAO52Qm,rqJdXwZ,IwA5lIP

**Now I need to know what to do for the rest of my gear. I was planning on EPIC potting the rest of it, cubing just like my weapon. I fairly new to xenon (bout a week ) so any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!**

-My range is about 150k (With MAX Core). http://imgur.com/FAO52Qm,rqJdXwZ,IwA5lIP#1
-I have all of my Link skills (Lv 2) , Except AB and hayato.
-Only 10% Luk, 3% Dex in % gear, most of my stuff is 10 star enhance'd. http://imgur.com/FAO52Qm,rqJdXwZ,IwA5lIP#2

TL;DR- Epic to Legendary in 6 cubes. What should I do to continue to increase my range?

EDIT: The link is the same, all 3 pictures are in the same album, so just click Second Image or Third Image
EDIT: Got another line on my weapon. 9% Dex.

December 27, 2014

19 Comments • Newest first

boredtodeath555

@Axnslicer: That "few bil of mesos" is, in actuality, $6. $6 "wasted" isn't exactly the biggest mistake in the world, you know that? You talk like she almost killed someone.
You can look back at your first comment and tell me who has more of an absurd expectation.
And that's good that you don't expect them to take your advice; as you should. It was a ridiculous advice and I don't see her needing it for a good while. But who knows, maybe she'll use it. There's always that small % chance.

@Rdizzle313: If you were in my world, I could help you in so many ways. Like we could magnus to get you some nova gear. Oh, but if you have any funded friends that can help you there, that would do you well. I know that Normal Magnus will drop the shoes and cape, but I don't know about the belt.

And congratulations on your 3rd line being 9% dex! That's a pretty good potential, and for a Xenon too. Might I also suggest you start gollux bossing so you can earn yourself some gollux rings and earrings? The superior ones are worth quite a bit, and I feel you can make use of the money you'd gain from selling the gear. Reinforced set should be good enough for you, so go ahead and sell the superior gear. I have to warn you though, you have to put in quite a bit of effort; not only for the prequest, but for the boss as well.

Reply December 28, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=boredtodeath555]@Axnslicer: I didn't say the OP didn't do anything wrong. Do you even read? " Everybody learns the hard way how to scroll, cube, and upgrade in general at first." Do you even know what that means? It means she made mistakes. That's what it means.
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No, you did actually. By writing them off using "everyone makes mistakes" you shift into the realm of morality and pedagogy. This sidesteps the actual discussion by completely ignoring what the mistakes were and how to fix them, and therefore it's a derailing argument which I give all the attention it deserves, none.

[quote=boredtodeath555]
Also this is just a game. She's not going for the stars and becoming a celebrity with 3.5 mil range okay? You can tell how low her funding is, so it shows she has very little potential in becoming such. You want to help her improve little by little. Take small steps. No pressure.
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The OP just carelessly blew a few B worth of cubes. Exactly how low do you think their funding is? I'm not their mentor, and they didn't even specifically ask me for advice. I'm just explaining common knowledge. If you want to spend your time doing detailed mentoring, feel free, but I have other things to do.

[quote=boredtodeath555]
Help her, don't criticize every mistake she makes because she makes a lot and the damage has already been done.
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By that argument you wouldn't criticize someone who set their own house on fire while trying to cook, because they "[make a lot of mistakes] and the damage is already done."

[quote=boredtodeath555]
They understand how cubes work just fine, thank you very much. Just because it was used on a weak weapon, doesn't mean it has no value. She got legendary AND a great potential that could possibly be a forever potential depending on her 3rd line when she stamps it. You can just think of it as using a clean legendary potted weapon for all you care. Not only is it not yours, she wants to use a weapon right away. She's not going to spend money on a perfected weapon. Instead, she's going to spend it on 6 cubes, and she got good results. This game isn't about perfection. It's just the funded society's standard.
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For every fool who gambles their rent and walks away rich, there are 10 who walk away broke. At this point I sincerely doubt that you yourself understand how cubes work, much less the person you're vouching for.

[quote=boredtodeath555]
If you want to help her get good quick, then help her directly. Because she probably doesn't know anyone that's trustworthy that she could spend $100 on a perfected weapon on. Oh, you can't. Because you're in a different world. So what's the point of criticizing and judging her again? Again, this is just a game.
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Wow those logic leaps. Let's lay this out slowly for you, since your brain is obviously getting ahead of itself. I don't care what people do with their money. This is just me walking past someone setting their house on fire and suggesting that's not really intelligent. If they feel like ignoring me, whatever, it's their money, and their fire.

[quote=boredtodeath555]
If someone wanted to help her improve the way you want her to improve, they'd do it, and she'd spend the money. That's all there is to it. If she's willing to spend a good amount of money and there is a funded person she can trust to sell her gear then what you said can come into play. But it won't. Not unless she is in those 2 conditions. Nothing you say is worth anything unless you are willing to help guide her through. [/quote]

Dude, I don't think you understand how forums work. You should probably get those absurd expectations fixed before trying to figure out your response.

[quote=boredtodeath555]
Get Decent sharp eyes gloves? Get real. She doesn't have 3 bil to spend. Or whatever it costs for sharp eyes now. Not only that, Sharp Eyes isn't even worth her money as she is now.
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Uh huh, because you know so much more than me about funding and you think my advice is incorrect? Okay, then what's your suggestion on the next steps for funding?

Reply December 28, 2014 - edited
Rdizzle313

[quote=adsep]I can give you a free 3L if you want, I have a ton of red cube fragments. [/quote]

That would be awesome, I'll try to add you in game

[quote=Revealed]Your ign tho! Do you watch Scott and Mitch?

OT: Epic potting everything is a good start and just working your way up with cubes and such is your best bet! Also, 3lining your equips will help with cubing stats, too![/quote]

Yeah I watch them, their my favorite!. Thank you for the advice, i ran out of nut coins so i wasn't able to 3line it.

Thank you all of the advice, I'll try my best to follow everyones way of improving. tbh I wasn't expecting all of this feedback, positive and negative. Both sides are helpful ^^

Reply December 28, 2014 - edited
boredtodeath555

@Axnslicer: I didn't say the OP didn't do anything wrong. Do you even read? " Everybody learns the hard way how to scroll, cube, and upgrade in general at first." Do you even know what that means? It means she made mistakes. That's what it means.

Also this is just a game. She's not going for the stars and becoming a celebrity with 3.5 mil range okay? You can tell how low her funding is, so it shows she has very little potential in becoming such. You want to help her improve little by little. Take small steps. No pressure. Help her, don't criticize every mistake she makes because she makes a lot and the damage has already been done.

They understand how cubes work just fine, thank you very much. Just because it was used on a weak weapon, doesn't mean it has no value. She got legendary AND a great potential that could possibly be a forever potential depending on her 3rd line when she stamps it. You can just think of it as using a clean legendary potted weapon for all you care. Not only is it not yours, she wants to use a weapon right away. She's not going to spend money on a perfected weapon. Instead, she's going to spend it on 6 cubes, and she got good results. This game isn't about perfection. It's just the funded society's standard. If you want to help her get good quick, then help her directly. Because she probably doesn't know anyone that's trustworthy that she could spend $100 on a perfected weapon on. Oh, you can't. Because you're in a different world. So what's the point of criticizing and judging her again? Again, this is just a game.

If someone wanted to help her improve the way you want her to improve, they'd do it, and she'd spend the money. That's all there is to it. If she's willing to spend a good amount of money and there is a funded person she can trust to sell her gear (or that she can sell nx to, and not at a ripped off price too), then what you said can come into play. But it won't. Not unless she is in those 2 conditions. Nothing you say is worth anything unless you are willing to help guide her through. Get Decent sharp eyes gloves? Get real. She doesn't have 3 bil to spend. Or whatever it costs for sharp eyes now. Not only that, Sharp Eyes isn't even worth her money as she is now.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
Philivesfull

[quote=Hydraxide]@tonyroxhehe I can't tell if you're joking. She cubed it to legendary from epic, and even if its 2 lined, a stamp makes it 3 lined, so its still a legendary wep from 6 cubes. And she just has to innocence. There is absolutely NO issue with what she did.[/quote]

I'm with this guy. She believed in the heart of the... cubes. Now if she wants to make that weapon any better, she can innocence it and try to perfect it later. It's not like inno scrolls are hard to come by, as long as she kills some elite bosses.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=boredtodeath555]Why exactly is she being bashed for having only 2 lines? It's not like the 3rd line is going to be rare. Can you people just calm down? The results of the 3rd line would've been the same no matter what. Not only that, you can tell she's not that well funded. Everybody learns the hard way how to scroll, cube, and upgrade in general at first. Not only that, it's not easy to perfect a weapon, so she's better off working on the rest of her equipment. No need to go innocence her weapon just yet. Unless she's willing to spend a lot of money, don't suggest anything that needs a lot of money.

For example; suggesting to use incredible chaos scroll of goodness on her armors and whatever has att. After all the slots are used up, star force them to 12. A Xenon will definitely benefit well from all those all stat boosts. If you have the money though, buying perfected xenon gear would make your life easier.
Of course, you don't want to spend that much money anyway, so the first method is the best way to go.
Unless anyone else has a constructive suggestion that would improve her more than what I've suggested.
Make sure to use those 4 reward point cubes before January 1st too, because the reward shop will reset at that time.[/quote]

[quote=djmaxaaron]What. She can just silver pot it for 3 lines and it would still be better. It's fine for now, she can just innocence it and have a 3lined legend whip that can sell for a decent amount. She didn't do anything wrong.[/quote]

Just because you can survive walking in front of a car doesn't make it any less foolish. Same concept applies here. If you think the OP didn't do anything wrong, feel free to yolo cube poorly scrolled weapons and see how that goes for you.

People don't seem to understand how cubes work.

1. They're valuable and should be used carefully. Not squandered on a weapon worth less than 200 M and scrolled with about 50 M worth of spell traces. Every single cube used on the whip was almost worth more than the whole whip combined.
2. They're a gamble. Unless you have enough cubes to continue through a bad luck streak, you should not cube your gear. It's just a waste of money. The OP got lucky, the average expected result for 6 cubes is no rank ups and trash potential.
3. They have an opportunity cost. With the same money the OP used on cubes, they could have instead reliably boosted their range in several other ways.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
Zephorax

if you need help stamping, i have heaps of cube frags if you want some

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
adsep

I can give you a free 3L if you want, I have a ton of red cube fragments.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
djmaxaaron

[quote=tonyroxhehe]Why TF did you waste 1.5bil on a 2 lined item espeically when you can easily make 3 lines right now with nut box potential stamps.
Otherwise, grats if you are happy with it... but i'm telling you that was a poor decision.
Just think how much more range you could have if you made better decisions. Try to get more bang for your buck buddy.[/quote]

What. She can just silver pot it for 3 lines and it would still be better. It's fine for now, she can just innocence it and have a 3lined legend whip that can sell for a decent amount. She didn't do anything wrong.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
drager260

Congrats You seem happy with how it turned out so that's all that matters. I recommend getting a 3rd line on that weapon asap! You might get lucky and get another useful line.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
boredtodeath555

[quote=tonyroxhehe]Why TF did you waste 1.5bil on a 2 lined item espeically when you can easily make 3 lines right now with nut box potential stamps.
Otherwise, grats if you are happy with it... but i'm telling you that was a poor decision.
Just think how much more range you could have if you made better decisions. Try to get more bang for your buck buddy.[/quote]

Why exactly is she being bashed for having only 2 lines? It's not like the 3rd line is going to be rare. Can you people just calm down? The results of the 3rd line would've been the same no matter what. Not only that, you can tell she's not that well funded. Everybody learns the hard way how to scroll, cube, and upgrade in general at first. Not only that, it's not easy to perfect a weapon, so she's better off working on the rest of her equipment. No need to go innocence her weapon just yet. Unless she's willing to spend a lot of money, don't suggest anything that needs a lot of money.

For example; suggesting to use incredible chaos scroll of goodness on her armors and whatever has att. After all the slots are used up, star force them to 12. A Xenon will definitely benefit well from all those all stat boosts. If you have the money though, buying perfected xenon gear would make your life easier.
Of course, you don't want to spend that much money anyway, so the first method is the best way to go.
Unless anyone else has a constructive suggestion that would improve her more than what I've suggested.
Make sure to use those 4 reward point cubes before January 1st too, because the reward shop will reset at that time.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
TheFallen123

[quote=tonyroxhehe]Why TF did you waste 1.5bil on a 2 lined item espeically when you can easily make 3 lines right now with nut box potential stamps.
Otherwise, grats if you are happy with it... but i'm telling you that was a poor decision.
Just think how much more range you could have if you made better decisions. Try to get more bang for your buck buddy.[/quote]

To be honest, he landed really good lines nevertheless so even if he adds a line now, it's on leg pot so it could turn out well too.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
Hydraxide

@tonyroxhehe I can't tell if you're joking. She cubed it to legendary from epic, and even if its 2 lined, a stamp makes it 3 lined, so its still a legendary wep from 6 cubes. And she just has to innocence. There is absolutely NO issue with what she did.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
TheFallen123

Also to add to what above said, once you do those things, I'd inno scroll that whipblade and try to perfect it because it is very badly scrolled. Aim for 280+ attack.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
Axnslicer

[quote=Rdizzle313]Last night, I was feeling lucky, so I bought 6 red cubes. My Fafnir Split Edge was already Epic, i was just hoping for %All Stat or maybe %Att.

I ended up getting 12% ATT/30% Boss on the 6th cube! http://imgur.com/FAO52Qm,rqJdXwZ,IwA5lIP

**Now I need to know what to do for the rest of my gear. I was planning on EPIC potting the rest of it, cubing just like my weapon. I fairly new to xenon (bout a week ) so any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!**

-My range is about 150k (With MAX Core). http://imgur.com/FAO52Qm,rqJdXwZ,IwA5lIP#1
-I have all of my Link skills (Lv 2) , Except AB and hayato.
-Only 10% Luk, 3% Dex in % gear, most of my stuff is 10 star enhance'd. http://imgur.com/FAO52Qm,rqJdXwZ,IwA5lIP#2

TL;DR- Epic to Legendary in 6 cubes. What should I do to continue to increase my range?

EDIT: The link is the same, all 3 pictures are in the same album, so just click Second Image or Third Image [/quote]

Yeah, you really don't know what you're doing. So, things to do, in order

1. Stop cubing. You just wasted 1-2 B worth of NX on a trash scrolled weapon, don't waste any more.
2. Get a 4+ star Pirate tyrant cape
3. Farm nut coins. Use the silver stamps you pick up to 3L your gear. Use the coins to either sell service or buy epic pots.
4. Get dSE nebbed work gloves

After that follow the general armor/weapon upgrade path.

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
ox0Shad0w0xo

Why haven't you made that whip 3 lines. Seems like a waste of possible stats lol

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
Revealed

Your ign tho! Do you watch Scott and Mitch?

OT: Epic potting everything is a good start and just working your way up with cubes and such is your best bet! Also, 3lining your equips will help with cubing stats, too!

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
boredtodeath555

Damn... That is too lucky...

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited
Landicho

15% stat on all ur euips

Reply December 27, 2014 - edited