[quote=Copyrighted]WHAT? Use emerald flower for cpierre! you're able to take out 25% in 1 cycle easily too!
For me, i'd do the same order but put pierre in front.[/quote]
Pierre is easy if they go according to your wish which they don't for me .. f3 My fastest Pierre time is less than 5 minutes but that was like the perfect run, I'm averaging like 9-10 minutes for Pierre so the same as Vellum. The reason why Vellum is easier for me is that you don't have to pay attention to what you're hitting since it's so straightforward haha.
[quote=Mirabosh][url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=65477&title=[Module]%20Root%20Abyss]They've never changed values since then...[/url]
And from my experience, there's no way Queen has 40b more HP than von bon, she's just so much quicker to kill... and cvellum at 200b is ridiculous too[/quote]
Yeah their HP values did change at unleashed/unlimited, just checked the data in case it changed again and i could be wrong. This are the values in data(just a plain copypaste).
Chaos Pierre(there are multiple of them with the same name as each hat colour Chaos Pierre has its own mobID but this is the one that spawns when you first enter the map).
mobID: 8900000 info finalmaxHP:80000000000
Chaos Von Bon(same as Chaos Pierre as the "Ghostly one" has also its own mobID and different stats, this is the one that spawns when you first enter the map)
mobID: 8910000 info finalmaxHP:100000000000
Chaos Bloody Queen(All the forms, albeit having each own mobID, share the same finalmaxHP value)
mobID: 8920000 info finalmaxHP:140000000000
Chaos Vellum
mobID: 8930000 info finalmaxHP:200000000000
You can check the values yourself in case you dont believe me, i could also have posted the screenshots but i dont think its needed.
[quote=Mirabosh]And from my experience, there's no way Queen has 40b more HP than von bon, she's just so much quicker to kill... and cvellum at 200b is ridiculous too[/quote]
I'm not certain of the values, but I can confirm Queen and VB do not have the same HP values. Queen is faster because she's mostly stationary and you don't have to move around very much to dodge anything, so you're always doing consistent damage to her.
[quote=canerias]You have your values wrong, well in fact you have old values but some of them didnt match back then either. Old values were 63b Pierre, 84b Von Bon, 105b Queen, 126b Vellum. Queen and Von Bon never have had the same HP.
Current values are:
Pierre 80b Von bon 100b Queen 140b Vellum 200b[/quote]
[url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=65477&title=[Module]%20Root%20Abyss]They've never changed values since then...[/url]
And from my experience, there's no way Queen has 40b more HP than von bon, she's just so much quicker to kill... and cvellum at 200b is ridiculous too
[quote=Mirabosh]Queen and Von bon both have the same amount of HP... Queen/VB have 105b, Pierre 84b and vellum 126b [/quote]
You have your values wrong, well in fact you have old values but some of them didnt match back then either. Old values were 63b Pierre, 84b Von Bon, 105b Queen, 126b Vellum. Queen and Von Bon never have had the same HP.
[quote=StraatLamp]Queen > Von bon > Vellum > Pierre, my list of difficulty based on average killing time f3[/quote]
Going to agree with this. Pierre is incredibly annoying as an F/P because I have to put up with Ignite, a passive skill that sets the ground on fire when I use fire based attacks. You can probably guess why this makes it annoying.
[quote=canerias] Von Bon has lower HP than Queen but its attacks are more annoying and its harder to kill than her[/quote]
Queen and Von bon both have the same amount of HP... Queen/VB have 105b, Pierre 84b and vellum 126b Both von bon and queen are laughable, anyone that has 2 functioning hands and isn't drunk should be able to do them easily (by that I mean control wise, that's assuming you have enough dps) For Pierre if you don't have a puppet skill your ability to kill pretty much depends of your mules and rng luck... you'll want the mules to stay alive and always be in the opposite corner of blue (unless they're aggro), but that's WAYYYYYYYYYYY too complex for the average maplers, getting mules with more brain power than a fish is extremely hard... best to just go with the mules of people who are used to CRA mechanics (setting up a team of people that can solo and have a lot of 180+ mules really helps there) Vellum is much easier (control-wise) to solo than in a party, since tails will always aim for you, it's pretty easy to predict the pattern. It's nothing really too hard, but it IS a bit harder than other CRA bosses. A lot of people have enough DPS for vellum but just either take much longer than they could or can't kill at all because they're trying to control with their butt or something.
Queen is the easiest. She's VERY straightforward and easy to survive. She has the 2nd most Hp of all the bosses but unlike those other bosses she isn't annoying af and some of her annoying attacks can be prevented or easily avoided.
Pierre would be #2 but in the last 25% of his Hp, it gets really hectic and very tricky. He definitely takes a lot of practice, but once you do, he's ezpz.
Von Bon is 3rd because of how bloody annoying he is. He CONSTANTLY sends you out of the room, teleports, super KB's you, and his attacks are so visually lackluster that they are so hard to see. I mean seriously, he's a small boss with hard-to-see attacks, and a lot of them are 1HKO. VERY annoying. Plus you have to burst through the last 40% Hp within 10 minutes or its game over. All the runs that I've been on with him, we've finished with mere seconds left (didn't even get to loot everthing)
Vellum obviously is the hardest one of them all. He's scary D:
Pierre is by far the one which requires the least amount of funding out of all RA bosses but is a bit tricky at the end so you might need some practice.
Queen despite being the RA boss with the second highest HP is pretty much straightforward.
Von Bon has lower HP than Queen but its attacks are more annoying and its harder to kill than her.
Vellum is the hardest because of much higher HP and PDR/MDR than the other RA bosses as well as having a very annoying skillset. Its on a different level compared to the rest of RA bosses.
To me personally, easily queen. Pierre is way to easy to accidently mess up and heal 1/4~1/2 hp with a misstimed attack. Vellum is super annoying for obvious reasons and vonbon is an extremely annoying boss that you can barely buff in. Von bon would be a lot easier if they had a button to turn off visual nx and your damage lines. Queen is a lot more straightforward then the other bosses and she doesnt have to many painful ohko skills(the ones she has is easily avoidable.
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[quote=Copyrighted]WHAT? Use emerald flower for cpierre!
you're able to take out 25% in 1 cycle easily too!
For me, i'd do the same order but put pierre in front.[/quote]
Pierre is easy if they go according to your wish which they don't for me .. f3
My fastest Pierre time is less than 5 minutes but that was like the perfect run, I'm averaging like 9-10 minutes for Pierre so the same as Vellum.
The reason why Vellum is easier for me is that you don't have to pay attention to what you're hitting since it's so straightforward haha.
ive never gone CRA D:
[quote=Mirabosh][url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=65477&title=[Module]%20Root%20Abyss]They've never changed values since then...[/url]
And from my experience, there's no way Queen has 40b more HP than von bon, she's just so much quicker to kill... and cvellum at 200b is ridiculous too[/quote]
Yeah their HP values did change at unleashed/unlimited, just checked the data in case it changed again and i could be wrong. This are the values in data(just a plain copypaste).
Chaos Pierre(there are multiple of them with the same name as each hat colour Chaos Pierre has its own mobID but this is the one that spawns when you first enter the map).
mobID: 8900000
info
finalmaxHP:80000000000
Chaos Von Bon(same as Chaos Pierre as the "Ghostly one" has also its own mobID and different stats, this is the one that spawns when you first enter the map)
mobID: 8910000
info
finalmaxHP:100000000000
Chaos Bloody Queen(All the forms, albeit having each own mobID, share the same finalmaxHP value)
mobID: 8920000
info
finalmaxHP:140000000000
Chaos Vellum
mobID: 8930000
info
finalmaxHP:200000000000
You can check the values yourself in case you dont believe me, i could also have posted the screenshots but i dont think its needed.
[quote=Mirabosh]And from my experience, there's no way Queen has 40b more HP than von bon, she's just so much quicker to kill... and cvellum at 200b is ridiculous too[/quote]
I'm not certain of the values, but I can confirm Queen and VB do not have the same HP values.
Queen is faster because she's mostly stationary and you don't have to move around very much to dodge anything, so you're always doing consistent damage to her.
[quote=canerias]You have your values wrong, well in fact you have old values but some of them didnt match back then either. Old values were 63b Pierre, 84b Von Bon, 105b Queen, 126b Vellum. Queen and Von Bon never have had the same HP.
Current values are:
Pierre 80b
Von bon 100b
Queen 140b
Vellum 200b[/quote]
[url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=65477&title=[Module]%20Root%20Abyss]They've never changed values since then...[/url]
And from my experience, there's no way Queen has 40b more HP than von bon, she's just so much quicker to kill... and cvellum at 200b is ridiculous too
[quote=Mirabosh]Queen and Von bon both have the same amount of HP...
Queen/VB have 105b, Pierre 84b and vellum 126b
[/quote]
You have your values wrong, well in fact you have old values but some of them didnt match back then either. Old values were 63b Pierre, 84b Von Bon, 105b Queen, 126b Vellum. Queen and Von Bon never have had the same HP.
Current values are:
Pierre 80b
Von bon 100b
Queen 140b
Vellum 200b
[quote=StraatLamp]Queen > Von bon > Vellum > Pierre, my list of difficulty based on average killing time f3[/quote]
Going to agree with this. Pierre is incredibly annoying as an F/P because I have to put up with Ignite, a passive skill that sets the ground on fire when I use fire based attacks. You can probably guess why this makes it annoying.
[quote=canerias]
Von Bon has lower HP than Queen but its attacks are more annoying and its harder to kill than her[/quote]
Queen and Von bon both have the same amount of HP...
Queen/VB have 105b, Pierre 84b and vellum 126b
Both von bon and queen are laughable, anyone that has 2 functioning hands and isn't drunk should be able to do them easily (by that I mean control wise, that's assuming you have enough dps)
For Pierre if you don't have a puppet skill your ability to kill pretty much depends of your mules and rng luck... you'll want the mules to stay alive and always be in the opposite corner of blue (unless they're aggro), but that's WAYYYYYYYYYYY too complex for the average maplers, getting mules with more brain power than a fish is extremely hard... best to just go with the mules of people who are used to CRA mechanics (setting up a team of people that can solo and have a lot of 180+ mules really helps there)
Vellum is much easier (control-wise) to solo than in a party, since tails will always aim for you, it's pretty easy to predict the pattern. It's nothing really too hard, but it IS a bit harder than other CRA bosses. A lot of people have enough DPS for vellum but just either take much longer than they could or can't kill at all because they're trying to control with their butt or something.
DPS-wise, it's Queen<Pierre<VB<Vellum
Control-wise Queen/VB<Pierre<Vellum
Then you have pallies who laugh at all of them
Queen > Von bon > Vellum > Pierre, my list of difficulty based on average killing time f3
Queen is the easiest. She's VERY straightforward and easy to survive. She has the 2nd most Hp of all the bosses but unlike those other bosses she isn't annoying af and some of her annoying attacks can be prevented or easily avoided.
Pierre would be #2 but in the last 25% of his Hp, it gets really hectic and very tricky. He definitely takes a lot of practice, but once you do, he's ezpz.
Von Bon is 3rd because of how bloody annoying he is. He CONSTANTLY sends you out of the room, teleports, super KB's you, and his attacks are so visually lackluster that they are so hard to see. I mean seriously, he's a small boss with hard-to-see attacks, and a lot of them are 1HKO. VERY annoying. Plus you have to burst through the last 40% Hp within 10 minutes or its game over. All the runs that I've been on with him, we've finished with mere seconds left (didn't even get to loot everthing)
Vellum obviously is the hardest one of them all. He's scary D:
From easiest to hardest.
Pierre>Queen>Von Bon>Vellum.
Pierre is by far the one which requires the least amount of funding out of all RA bosses but is a bit tricky at the end so you might need some practice.
Queen despite being the RA boss with the second highest HP is pretty much straightforward.
Von Bon has lower HP than Queen but its attacks are more annoying and its harder to kill than her.
Vellum is the hardest because of much higher HP and PDR/MDR than the other RA bosses as well as having a very annoying skillset. Its on a different level compared to the rest of RA bosses.
once the guy that was carry me die 4 times in von bon
For me clown is the easiest because you can kill him fast when he is using his fire skill
Queen by far.
I find queen the easiest by a mile.
Pierre is the easiest as long as you don't mess up at the end
To me personally, easily queen. Pierre is way to easy to accidently mess up and heal 1/4~1/2 hp with a misstimed attack.
Vellum is super annoying for obvious reasons and vonbon is an extremely annoying boss that you can barely buff in. Von bon
would be a lot easier if they had a button to turn off visual nx and your damage lines. Queen is a lot more straightforward then
the other bosses and she doesnt have to many painful ohko skills(the ones she has is easily avoidable.
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