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Range to max Ar

I was wondering, around what kind of range would you need to hit max on AR using Vengeance of Angel (I refuse to call it its actual name. The level 140 hyper), assuming 100% crit rate and AA being fully charged?

I'm not looking for an exact number since I know it varies based on PDR and %bossing as well; I'm just looking for a ballpark estimate.

April 19, 2013

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jolteon7

I forgot Kanna's link affected range, that's my B.

Reply April 19, 2013
JustAnotherUser

^^ Kanna's link affects range so I guess you can't consider it another way around from pure range brute force.
Though I agree on the boss% thingy, getting 30% boss from empress, 3% from kannas card and demonslayer's link is extremely easy and quite effective.

Reply April 19, 2013
jolteon7

^^elaborating on 100k.

There are other ways to get to max damage other than pure range. Having 10% damage from Kanna and extr crit damage from rings, SE, or Hayato make it easier to hit all maxes than trying to get a certain range. 10% boss damage from DS and 30% from full empress also makes it easier to hit all max on bosses like Zakum.

EDIT: This is me with ~84k (you can tell because flame gear does 100% damage) range and 40% boss (from link and empress set) before hypers came out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZB19WoCfPU

Hit mid 900ks with arcane aim

Reply April 19, 2013 - edited
JustAnotherUser

A quick calculation I made says around 125k is enough to crit 1,149,999 per line (max damage with VoA and Epic adventure) with 100% PDR and 0% boss.
30% PDR from Leafre set, 20% from arcane aim, 20% from VoA and 10% (15% in the near future) from Lumi's link skills equals around 80% (85% with level 2 link skills). Just throw in a neb, you can also get another free 10% from Lv100 ambition.

Reply April 19, 2013 - edited
jolteon7

100k will have you hitting maxes with AA

Reply April 19, 2013 - edited
shyally

Oh thank you, that's a neat video. VOA increases max range, but also increases damage, so it probably evens out in the end to about the same.

For anyone curious, the range where maxes became common was somewhere in between 130k~150k

Reply April 19, 2013 - edited
doc

@shyally: Then idk, 150 was a long time ago. Sorry if I gave you false hope. Disregard my answer.

Reply April 19, 2013 - edited
shyally

[quote=doc]I was in the near 60k's. But that might be an overshot considering I had my empress items at 140 and VoA is obtained at 150.[/quote]

I think that's a pretty big underestimate because I'm at 72k self-buffed with 30% boss and 30% ignore defence and I only reach max when infinity is near max power. I'm trying to find the range where I wouldn't have to rely on infinity anymore

Reply April 19, 2013 - edited
doc

I was in the near 60k's. But that might be an overshot considering I had my empress items at 140 and VoA is obtained at 150.

Reply April 19, 2013 - edited