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Math Help Limits and Definition of e

Evaluate:
lim ((x-2)(x+1))^x
as x approaches infinity.
The answer is e^-3.

Could anyone explain this to me please? Thanks in advance!

January 10, 2015

7 Comments • Newest first

bloodIsShed

no worries, see other thread
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Reply January 11, 2015
sparkshooter

@bloodIsShed
@Shimy
Oh my god I am so sorry. I was supposed to put a division sign between the two parentheses, so it isn't multiplication. I truly apologize if this took you a lot of time.

Reply January 11, 2015
bloodIsShed

trying to show something that is false to be true is an exercise in futility
either the TS copied the expression incorrectly (maybe missed a negative sign somewhere?), or the answer in the book is wrong (rare, but it happens. if the author knows about this, he/she probably put a note in the errata section in her/his website). of course, it's also possible that the 'answer' of e^-3 belongs to a completely different problem.

Reply January 11, 2015
Shimy

welp i tried
Wolfram op.

Reply January 10, 2015
bloodIsShed

[quote=Shimy]It should be noted that e = (lim x -> infinity) (1+1/x)^x. We can rewrite x as n = 1/x when x approaches infinity n = 0
(lim n to 0) (1+n)^(1/n)
So now we a form of (1+1/x) to find our n

Lets break up the brackets into
(x-2)(x+1) = (x^2 -x - 2)
In order to get that form we need to get rid of our x variables
(x^2/x^2 - x/x^2 - 2/x^2) -> (1 - 1/x - 2/x^2) *note it doesn't matter if it's 1/x^2 or 1/x^200 its the same because of the limit as x -> infinity
Rewriting it :
(1-3/x)^x

Okay this is where it might get a bit confusing.
n = -3/x. so x = n / -3
Plug in n/-3 for your x in your equation
You'll get (lim n -> 0) (1+n)^(-3/n)
This can be rewritten as :
(lim n -> 0)(1+n^(1/n))^-3 *using basic exponent rules
Or
e^-3

This question's really hard. If it asks to evaluate using the limit definition. Just cry.[/quote]

it's all nice and well except for two problems:

lim (x^2 -x -2)^x as x approaches infinity is NOT the same as lim (x^2/x^2 -x/x^2 -2/x^2)^x as x approaches infinity
consider this: is lim x as x approaches infinity the same as lim x/x^2 as x approaches infinity? obviously not.

the second problem is near the end
lim (1 -1/x - 2/x^2)^x as x approaches infinity is NOT the same as lim (1 - 3/x)^x as x approaches infinity
lim (1 -1/x - 2/x^2)^x as x approaches infinity = 1/e
lim (1 - 3/x)^x as x approaches infinity = 1/e^3
(neither of these are correct, as the solution is [url=http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=lim+%28x^2+-x+-2%29^x+as+x+approaches+infinity]infinity[/url]

Reply January 10, 2015
Shimy

It should be noted that e = (lim x -> infinity) (1+1/x)^x. We can rewrite x as n = 1/x when x approaches infinity n = 0
(lim n to 0) (1+n)^(1/n)
So now we a form of (1+1/x) to find our n

Lets break up the brackets into
(x-2)(x+1) = (x^2 -x - 2)
In order to get that form we need to get rid of our x variables
(x^2/x^2 - x/x^2 - 2/x^2) -> (1 - 1/x - 2/x^2) *note it doesn't matter if it's 1/x^2 or 1/x^200 its the same because of the limit as x -> infinity
Rewriting it :
(1-3/x)^x

Okay this is where it might get a bit confusing.
n = -3/x. so x = n / -3
Plug in n/-3 for your x in your equation
You'll get (lim n -> 0) (1+n)^(-3/n)
This can be rewritten as :
(lim n -> 0)(1+n^(1/n))^-3 *using basic exponent rules
Or
e^-3

This question's really hard. If it asks to evaluate using the limit definition. Just cry.

Reply January 10, 2015
bloodIsShed

are you sure you didn't make a mistake somewhere, because the way it is written, the value should increase indefinitely as x increases.
(that is, the limit would be infinity, which is to say that it does not converge to a single value)

Reply January 10, 2015