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@lilazninja I disagree with clean range comparing to other class ranges. If you swap your haku fan with a lvl 10 clean fan, your clean range may not change very much, however your buffed range will change drastically.

I would say bloated because to many other classes, having the range of the buffed range kanna would mean insane damage output. However if you use dojo as a tool for comparison (obviously not the best, but it's something), you can see that our clean range probably gives us a better comparison to some other classes. My evan friend for example, has a buffed range similar to my clean range and we have similar dojo times. Now when we go do regular bosses, he is a better bosser due to his skills that let him bypass elemental resistance. Anyways, these are just some small observations I've made.

Bloated.

@loxiona: yeah, that's true. it's not like 2m-2m cap is the absolute damage limit but without outside sources like %boss, PDR Ignore, etc, i mean like 10k buffed range on a Hero is very different than a 10k range on a Xenon, you know? what i meant to say was that with no outside damage increases, Kanna's lower %Dmg/hit on skills like Vanquisher would put you at a lower damage output per line than would the same range at the higher %Dmg/line on another character's skill.

@hangwithhung 2m~2m range cap is just a visual range cap though. It's not really a hindrance. You could use calculators to calculate range past 2m

well people say it's "bloated" in the sense that it can reach its potential quicker with lower amounts of funds. because of the huge magic attack increase you get from Haku, your range would be far larger than those of similar types of equipment as per their class. It pretty much means that you're more hindered by the 2m-2m range cap but while you're stuck at 2m-2m, others with a lower range can dish out better damage at a lower range. My Kanna had a 300k range buffed and hit around 1.5m/line with Vanquisher's Charm... I wonder what a 300k range on a Hero could achieve haha.

@jwong3672 Kasen actually gives 60% damage, the description is wrong. Not sure of the reason as to why it is.

@Star909 I've never heard of someone calling a job's range 'bloated'. @S1nisterRay describes it best. Kannas are high-ranged, but range is kind of a poor indicator of anything these days. If you look at equivelent funding across jobs, I don't think kannas are really that much weaker.

It's because people like to use the word 'bloated'.

No, I know what you mean.

Kanna's range seems "bloated" because Haku's Blessing gives a ton of %M.Atk (which is how Kanna would be able to do any damage) but it ups the range drastically and does less damage than what other classes would be able to do at that range or what you would expect from that range.

For example, some/most classes I would imagine could at the very least be able to do Hell Gollux on their own at 1.5m range comfortably (barring the problem of having to clear the mobs at the bottom, which Kishin remedies), but I can barely make a dent on Hellux, let alone kill. There might be other Kannas that can, but overall Kanna's damage output just doesn't match what is expected from that range, and the amount of INT/funding that is required to put a Kanna at that range is a lot less than other mage classes. Granted, Kanna's meant to be a support class, but from my experience the range is definitely a bit deceiving.

Oh I thought everyone meant the huge range boost from haku's fan was why kanna's range was bloated.

Kannas have a 30% damage passive along with the 10% from link skill, which makes their range bloated.