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1h or 2h? Already have a shield

Hi, I just came back to playing a warrior and remaking a paladin. The thing is I have a shield my friend gave me before I quit and I'm wondering if it's good enough for me to use with a 1H to match a 2H weapon with a secondary. Problem is that it was already equipped and I don't really know how to go about scrolling it now. There's nothing else that's really notable on my paladin right now as I have 40k range. Also I'm wondering which passive is better to go with, the 10% crit or 15% PDR. (Just making sure because I like swords better but the PDR looks really attractive) [url=http://i.imgur.com/IIhu8TX.jpg]This is the shield that I have right now.[/url]

I heard the way to go if you're funded is a 2H weapon along with a secondary if I'm not mistaken but I have roughly 60b funds and I'm not sure if that's qualified as funded or not anymore. Any input of whether to go 2H or 1H and also either sword or BW would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

June 22, 2014

13 Comments • Newest first

Lmaonade200

PDR (physical defense resistance) is ignore defense %, it's a weapon potential so it can only appear on weapons, secondaries, and emblems

Reply July 13, 2014 - edited
XxEpsolonxX

Im really bad at the whole acronyms thing so can someone tell me what PDR is so that i know which lion heart/RA weps to buy....? :

Reply July 12, 2014 - edited
StrikeFreedm

[quote=Bernie]Yep then you should go for 2h + rosary ;( depends how you spend your money but if your able to reach 1.5mil range maybe you'll be able to solo cra bosses except of chaos velly with takes about 1.8mil+ range clean also i think you also be able to kill empress but also have in mind different things like boss damage and pdr. Just go try yourself[/quote]

Ah alrighty, hopefully I can reach that much with however much funds I have Thanks!

[quote=bl4ckdr4g0n2]Luckily for you we paladins get huge bonus damage from simply buffing so what you should do is as follows.

1) Don't bother doing anything to the shield right now as it will suffice until you manage to get your other equips.(Free, Yay!)
2) Get a Solid 300+attack 1 hand sword(FAFNIR FTW) with some decent pot (Ex: boss %, att% dmg%) NOTE: Damage % is a pally's greatest friend. However boss% on a weapon is best for end game.(Not 100% how much that'll cost in your server roughly 10-15bil on average in Scania for a decent 309 att, 9 star decent pot 1 hand sword)
Now we'll go into the cheapest means of upgrading your damage and maximizing your funding potential.
3) Full superior gollux set or reinforced which ever is easier to obtain (If you can get superior youre better off) Note: Many will say hyades belt is better in the long run. This is true however you're not in a position to maximize your damage with that belt with 60b funding so go with gollux. Also more free boss% and pdr is great.)
4) CRA set set bonus is great and this set will allow you to recieve 1dmg from everything physical damage based making life so simple.
5) Hyades cape. No other alternative, this is simple a great bang for its buck.
6) Rings, ring, ring! Ring's with some % str will be awesome for your damage boost and you should be able to get some 12-15% for 1-2b each. Just make 2 of your rings are superior gollux and reinforced gollux as once scrolled they are the best rings in the game. Note: Those rings with pot are expensive so just farm gollux and buy them with the gollux pennies.

After that you've got boots or accessories to choose from, an android +heart a badge and an emblem to cube and your in business.

Sorry I couldn't include prices as i know nothing about the world you're in.[/quote]

That's really helpful, thanks! n_n

Reply June 23, 2014 - edited
Bernie

[quote=StrikeFreedm]Is there any boss that I would be able to take down with my funding that'd let me make money? I don't really plan on merching or buying NX to get funds after this, does this mean it'll be better to go 2h + rosary?[/quote]
Yep then you should go for 2h + rosary ;( depends how you spend your money but if your able to reach 1.5mil range maybe you'll be able to solo cra bosses except of chaos velly with takes about 1.8mil+ range clean also i think you also be able to kill empress but also have in mind different things like boss damage and pdr. Just go try yourself

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
StrikeFreedm

[quote=Bernie]@strikefreedm keep the shield and go for 1h. Its better to keep upgrading from there cause 1h and shield is for endgame besides you have quite the amount to upgrade but if you want to see bigger numbers and you don't have a problem with both speed and 2h price + rosary go ahead[/quote]

Is there any boss that I would be able to take down with my funding that'd let me make money? I don't really plan on merching or buying NX to get funds after this, does this mean it'll be better to go 2h + rosary?

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
Bernie

@strikefreedm keep the shield and go for 1h. Its better to keep upgrading from there cause 1h and shield is for endgame besides you have quite the amount to upgrade but if you want to see bigger numbers and you don't have a problem with both speed and 2h price + rosary go ahead

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
HitThings

[quote=StrikeFreedm]Would I be better off just grabbing a two-hander than scrolling if I don't hit cap? I only have 60b to spend and the shield is the only great item that I own. Also my friend gave me the shield and it's trade locked, would it still be worth it scrolling with prime scrolls and PSoKing?[/quote]

Paladin's blast animation is notoriously slow and clunky IMO (even with 1H) and you're left feeling somewhat immobile during the attack.
With 2H it'll feel really slow, so try out both to see which better matches your playing style.

When I switched to Pally for a while, I unfortunately did not have access to a similar 2H Sword + Rosary combo to my current 1H + Shield setup, so I couldn't mark down exact damage differences. Your damage should be higher, but I cannot say by how much exactly.

With either of the cases, be sure to carry a nice stack of MPE Green potions for the attack speed increase.

As for the shield, if you know this will be a long term character, by all means go for it. It will be great for personal use, but if you plan to resell, the buying market will be slightly limited. Although I know there's a few warriors on Basil trying to get their hands on that specific shield.
At the very least you can dump 10 of the +5/6 All Stat 9th Anniversary scrolls on it for a cost-effective alternative.

Sorry it's kind of hard to give an answer to a subjective question, but I hope I could at least provide some insight. Good luck!

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
StrikeFreedm

[quote=HitThings]That's a nice Defender. Perhaps recube regular potential for multiple lines of %Att and scroll it with 9th Anniversary Prime Scrolls.

As for 1H vs 2H swords go, 2H will enable you to reach cap damage more easily due to the higher multiplier.
However, 1H will outclass 2H once you are able to hit cap with 1H + Shield.

Not only will you experience higher DPS, the delay between your attacks will be significantly reduced, therefore giving you more time to avoid OHKO attacks from bosses.[/quote]

Would I be better off just grabbing a two-hander than scrolling if I don't hit cap? I only have 60b to spend and the shield is the only great item that I own. Also my friend gave me the shield and it's trade locked, would it still be worth it scrolling with prime scrolls and PSoKing?

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
HitThings

That's a nice Defender. Perhaps recube regular potential for multiple lines of %Att and scroll it with 9th Anniversary Prime Scrolls.

As for 1H vs 2H swords go, 2H will enable you to reach cap damage more easily due to the higher multiplier.
However, 1H will outclass 2H once you are able to hit cap with 1H + Shield.

Not only will you experience higher DPS, the delay between your attacks will be significantly reduced, therefore giving you more time to avoid OHKO attacks from bosses.

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
StrikeFreedm

[quote=xlxlxlxl]Go with 1H weapon for the faster attack speed. It's relatively easy to get 100% crit, but PDR is only super important if you plan on doing Chaos Vellum. I'd go with the PDR from a Blunt weapon.[/quote]

I'm not sure if I can even do Chaos Vellum with 60b of funds, isn't that the boss that drops all the RA stuff?

[quote=FreeIcecream]Not playing Paladins anymore, but I think I picked up some things that might help you

Don't bother with the PDR from blunt weapons.
Swords don't give 10% crit but 10% max crit damage, which is pretty huge.
Seeing how Paladins already get a lot of PDR it's not worth it to take a mace over a sword for (even though mace animations looks so nice <3)
Not sure if 1h or 2h would be better, but that 2nd potential on your shield is really nice, so it might be worth keeping.
I'd go 1h if I were you, but that could also be personal preferences, seeing how I always played my pre-RED Pala with a shield.

I also heard 1h could be better if you break speedcap with it using a green potion, but don't quote me on that.[/quote]

Oh, that clarifies it a lot better, I thought it only added 10% crit to my crit ratio. I like swords better so I guess I win this time too Yeah, it was given to me from a friend who had quit and I'd really want to keep it if I could, but I could always just keep it and go with a 2H combo. I played a paladin pre-RED as well before it got hacked, and I loved it and it's really weird how you don't charge your weapon with elements anymore but I still have a lot of fun on it.

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
BrockObamy

[quote=xlxlxlxl]Go with 1H weapon for the faster attack speed. It's relatively easy to get 100% crit, but PDR is only super important if you plan on doing Chaos Vellum. I'd go with the PDR from a Blunt weapon.[/quote]

ur not very smart are u

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
FreeIcecream

Not playing Paladins anymore, but I think I picked up some things that might help you

Don't bother with the PDR from blunt weapons.
Swords don't give 10% crit but 10% max crit damage, which is pretty huge.
Seeing how Paladins already get a lot of PDR it's not worth it to take a mace over a sword for (even though mace animations looks so nice <3)
Not sure if 1h or 2h would be better, but that 2nd potential on your shield is really nice, so it might be worth keeping.
I'd go 1h if I were you, but that could also be personal preferences, seeing how I always played my pre-RED Pala with a shield.

I also heard 1h could be better if you break speedcap with it using a green potion, but don't quote me on that.

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited
xlxlxlxl

Go with 1H weapon for the faster attack speed. It's relatively easy to get 100% crit, but PDR is only super important if you plan on doing Chaos Vellum. I'd go with the PDR from a Blunt weapon.

Reply June 22, 2014 - edited