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[quote=Sn0wy101]There was a [i]chance[/i] that the baby would be still alive if the parents had had called 911. The baby was born two months premature.[/quote]

I''m pretty sure it said in the video that the child was treatable.

We are humans, bound to chaos and destruction. Animals live to mock us.

[quote=iMerchU]I can't respect people who worship what they eat. Like cow-worshiping people. It's just insane.
I also can't respect people who worship a tubby gold guy who's always smiling.
I can respect people who don't/can't imagine how their god looks because he's too holy for man.[/quote]

If the first one was a reference to hinduism, they don't eat cows as a result of their holy stature.

I respect people.

I can respect you as a person and hate your actions.

I can respect you as a person and hate your beliefs.

I can respect you as a person and make it known to you that I despise your actions and beliefs.

It's like when I tell my best friend, "Dude, your t-shirt looks stupid." I still like him as a person, I just don't like his t-shirt.

Pretending that certain "beliefs" must be respected? If you walk into a lunatic asylum and a twitching man screams "I have invisible centaurs in my shift-hole and they SING SILENT SONGS TO ME AT NIGHT...", nobody will fault you for saying, "Well, that man is clearly delusional." If you say, "you're an idiot", people may think you mean, but they won't say you're "Closed minded."

However, if someone makes an equally unverifiable claim, without any evidence to support it, whether it be about ghosts, or psychics, or worst of all a matter of "faith" (which by definition must exclude evidence), you must "respect" them. It is a "matter of opinion" and "everyone has their beliefs" and you must be "tolerant".

I'm calling shenaniigans once and for all. Putting the foot down. If you make a claim without evidence, a claim which is an affront to reason, a claim that is absurd, your claim is now publicly available for ridicule and scorn.

tlnr - If people are idiots, tell them so.

[quote=Anissa130]What makes you think everyone's born Atheist? Everyone is born with Fitrah ( innate inclination of the Oneness of god) they either choose to deny it OR they're parents teach them otherwise. Sooner or later they would start to question things...we are NOT here by chance. There is a reason as to why we are here. You cannot just say a car came into existence like that, someone made that car...[/quote]

Atheism is a lack of belief in god, by nature babies are not born knowing any details or discriptions about any gods at all, they are taught about specific ones relating to where ever you happen to be and what the prevailing religion is there.

I was never taught about religion as a child nor was I indoctrinated, hence I'm still an atheist now.

Jealousy, being tough, disrespect to gain respect, and oh the world has so much more.
Some of us are alike and different, that's where it comes from!

[quote=MetalBladeArt]I can, but I choose not to. Why? Because religious people are nut heads that are completely ignorant and reject everything you say, no matter how much sense it makes.[/quote]

They would say the same thing to you.

I do not respect them.

I respect everyone.

I respect anyone regardless of their religion. The only way i'd disrespect someone is if they try to be rude to me saying racial sterotype jokes or something.

I respect other religions until they try to convert me.

Oh look, a thread about respecting other people's beliefs turned into a flame war on religion.

The people atheists that attack religious people are no better than the religious people that attack atheists.

[quote=Aren]@Anissa130: Well in mammals they are. Syngnathidae is a family of fish in which the male is the one who takes care of the brood. There are also many hermaphrodites in the animal kingdom, although they aren't mammals.

But see the illogic behind it: you are saying that it's unfair for women if they take both responsibilities of child bearing and keeping the financial needs met. But who is the one saying they have to be child bearers in the first place? Religious people. You are basing your claims off of assumptions that religion makes which is illogical.

You are also associating the act of conceiving a child to be an automatic condition to bearing the child in its life. That's what trumps logic. Sure, the mom can conceive the child, but why should that mean that the dad is not responsible for raising the child? I don't see the connection. All I see is a sexist viewpoint on life.[/quote]

The mother, in Islam, is far more "important" than the father. Here is one of the narrations of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

Abu Huraira reported that a person came to Allah, 's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Who among the people is most deserving of a fine treatment from my hand? He said: Your mother. He again said: Then who (is the next one)? He said: Again it is your mother (who deserves the best treatment from you). He said: Then who (is the next one)? He (the Holy Prophet) said: Again, it is your mother. He (again) said: Then who? Thereupon he said: Then it is your father.

3 times the mother before he said the father.

If you go to any Muslim country and someone jokes around about your mother, even if it's "just a joke", they'd have a fist in their face. Respect for the parents is something missing in society today; we've lost that sense of duty to our parents. They gave birth to us, our mothers held us in their womb for 9 months, cared for us in our infancy, supported us, payed for everything we need. The father is "the man of the house". The duties can most definitely be intertwined amongst the two.

Another narration of the prophet;
"Paradise lies under the feet of your mother"

Edit: I wasn't saying anything about what I quoted you in, I just wanted to share this with you.

I'm an apathetic atheist but at least I have the ability to let others believe in whatever they want as long as they're not in on it for making others believe in a religion.

Because people can't mind their own business. Everyone needs to just chill the hell out and keep to themselves.

[quote=Aren]@Sweax: I'm glad for you then.[/quote]

Thanks!

@Aren: That's true, maybe I should have said it otherwise. I don't respect people who hurt other people, mentally and psychically. I don't understand why they do it. You're also right about the teams. I always hear in my church that our believing (Christianity) is the right one. But other people would say that I must go to hell with my religion.
That's what made me kind of agnostic, I don't believe in all that nonsense anymore: I don't want to believe in a religion that is made up by men with all sort of rules and things you must do before you have a chance to go to 'heaven'

I do still believe in my own God. It's the same God as the Christian one (with all those rules and stuff) but then all-loving and that he takes care of you. I don't know, I just like the idea of someone who rules it all. That makes me something valuable (that was a bit off topic xD)

@Aren: That's true, I agree with you that religion has brought us many faults in this world.

[quote=Aren]@Sweax: You see, we wouldn't have this problem if it weren't for religion[/quote]

Can you prove this? I've never heard of a world without faults, if there wasn't a religion at all.

[quote=Sweax]I don't see that as pride, more like ignorance and stupidity.

@Avatar: Who are you to say who I am?[/quote]

I don't know who you are....but I don't need to know who you are to not respect you for your opinion that letting a sick treatable baby die is acceptable. Where would the world be if every injury was left for prayers to heal.

[quote=Coojo]i dont respect them for thinking they know the ultimate truth of everything. you cant be more arrogant than that. i thought pride was a "sin"?[/quote]

I don't see that as pride, more like ignorance and stupidity.

@Avatar: Who are you to say who I am? EDIT: I've asked my mother and my father what they thought of it:
'When you bring your child to a hospital and pray for him, then that's okay'
My mom said this: 'It's dumb to let him die and wait for God to let him heal. Those people shouldn't have custody over their child.'

I've never thought of this like before, and your right about that part. I thought that with a bit of respect the world might change a bit.
But, I don't agree with the words 'people' and 'you'. Who are you to say that everyone thinks like that in the world?

[quote=Sweax]Yes I do, what's wrong with believing in something that may can cure your child?[/quote]

That's dispicable, the fate of an innocent baby that can't take care of itself shouldn't be decided by people that think prayer will cure their child, while the baby would still be living today if it was taken to a hospital. This is exactly why we can't respect people like you.

i dont respect them for thinking they know the ultimate truth of everything. you cant be more arrogant than that. i thought pride was a "sin"?

[quote=Avatar]You respect people like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZOV9TgiMs&feature=plcp&context=C4d3b570VDvjVQa1PpcFOkF51RNvoPiougO-Uk09bIUkq2gwgWyYs=[/quote]

Yes I do, what's wrong with believing in something that may can cure your child?

I respect all creatures and their beliefs

You respect people like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZOV9TgiMs&feature=plcp&context=C4d3b570VDvjVQa1PpcFOkF51RNvoPiougO-Uk09bIUkq2gwgWyYs=

i totally respect everyones belief. it would be weird if everyone was the same anyways. why do ppl have to write essay long posts to fight back to what the other person says o.o i find it quite sad...

Americans.

I respect others' religion so long as they respect my religion also.
No matter how crazy their religion may be, like that flying spaghetti monster one lol.
I guess the reason why people can't respect other religions could be because its foreign to them and they simply don't understand.

I can't respect people who worship what they eat. Like cow-worshiping people. It's just insane.
I also can't respect people who worship a tubby gold guy who's always smiling.
I can respect people who don't/can't imagine how their god looks because he's too holy for man.

Its because your parents/ancestors, they didn't raise you right.

I respect people's beliefs until someone attacks another's beliefs.